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14 May 2012, 3:07 pm

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What I observed recently wasn't nice. Eight-year-old kids on small bicycles speeding through a city yelling "Allahu Akbar".


Does this necessarily have to have a sinister connotation, other than just little kids having fun while screaming a popular slogan they had been raised with?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Alla'hu Akbar is what every suicide bomber yells when they pull the pin. The little kids are being well trained for their future careers and terrorists and slayers of the innocent.

Question does the phrase "Muslim Terrorist" contain one word or two words? The fact that there is a question about it is significant.

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I believe the phrase in fact had predated the phenomenon of suicide bombers.
Though I can see how this could be seen as unsettling.

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14 May 2012, 3:13 pm

Fists in the air. Not a nice sight. :P



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16 May 2012, 1:26 am

I'm an advocate of the Teletubby School of Totalitarian Thought and a Catholic Monarchist.


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16 May 2012, 2:26 am

^^^
"teletubies"? that rings a bell... i remember when our american cuckoocliastical cleric jerry falwell made a big stink about how tinky winky was corrupting our youth, and on that crazy subject he found lots of agreement with the ride side of the aisle.



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16 May 2012, 2:41 am

auntblabby wrote:
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"teletubies"? that rings a bell... i remember when our american cuckoocliastical cleric jerry falwell made a big stink about how tinky winky was corrupting our youth, and on that crazy subject he found lots of agreement with the ride side of the aisle.


Larry Flynt, who had come to form a strange kind of friendship with Falwell in later years, told how he had called the good reverend concerning the Teletubby flap, and asked, "What are you doing Jerry?" To which Falwell answered, "Sometimes I say things without thinking."
Yeah, and then some. :lol:

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16 May 2012, 2:56 am

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Larry Flynt, who had come to form a strange kind of friendship with Falwell in later years, told how he had called the good reverend concerning the Teletubby flap, and asked, "What are you doing Jerry?" To which Falwell answered, "Sometimes I say things without thinking."Yeah, and then some. :lol:

man, that is truly weird, that those two would be on civil/semi-friendly speaking terms, at least after that whole thing about flynt and his cartoon featuring falwell and his mother in an outhouse. :lmao: to admit a weakness to another cannot be the mark of true enmity. strange. :huh: i just don't get it. :duh:



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16 May 2012, 4:41 am

auntblabby wrote:
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Larry Flynt, who had come to form a strange kind of friendship with Falwell in later years, told how he had called the good reverend concerning the Teletubby flap, and asked, "What are you doing Jerry?" To which Falwell answered, "Sometimes I say things without thinking."Yeah, and then some. :lol:

man, that is truly weird, that those two would be on civil/semi-friendly speaking terms, at least after that whole thing about flynt and his cartoon featuring falwell and his mother in an outhouse. :lmao: to admit a weakness to another cannot be the mark of true enmity. strange. :huh: i just don't get it. :duh:


Strange but true. :lol:

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16 May 2012, 4:45 am

My own persuasion, no predefined ideology describes my leanings.


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16 May 2012, 8:27 am

I'm a... Moratary Extinctionist with leanings toward evolutionism. Whatever it takes to make our species prolong or eventually evolve must be our unified goal. Our best bet would be a technocracy with the goal of space settlement and deep exploration. Obvious problems with this idea. The stand out being; Do we even have the resources to do this effectively? We may very well have marooned ourselves on this planet... Or maybe we never even had the resources to achieve such a feat to begin with. It's not written in the stars that we're meant to live our days like we're on the Enterprise. So if space exploration is impossible, the next best option for species cunctation is to destroy all society and return to a nomadic existence. Really this is where we're headed anyways... If we don't find a solution to our energy woes, I'd estimate 6 out of 7 human beings will die. The grand tragedy, hell it could happen in my lifetime. Ghandi said "poverty is the worst form of violence". We've built the world economy up like the Tower of Babel, when it crumbles down we will witness the most violent and impoverished time in human history. The greatest singular event of human suffering. So... Back to space exploration! It's our best bet, the most inspired and most god-like.



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16 May 2012, 3:11 pm

Back to the original topic, I'm left-wing liberal. Eceonomically speaking, I'm a leftist, while on morals and social issues, I'm a liberal.



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16 May 2012, 4:58 pm

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And as I recall, there were those Muslim American leaders who did in fact speak out after 9/11, and since.

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All thirteen of them.

If Americans who are Muslim expect to be accepted in this society they better make their disavowal of violent acts plain and public.

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16 May 2012, 5:01 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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And as I recall, there were those Muslim American leaders who did in fact speak out after 9/11, and since.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


All thirteen of them.

If Americans who are Muslim expect to be accepted in this society they better make their disavowal of violent acts plain and public.

ruveyn


If Norwegian terrorists were to attack us, do you expect all Norwegian Americans to publicly denounce their acts?

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16 May 2012, 5:11 pm

Not all, but a lot of people who were in some way part of a group mentioned in Breivik's manifesto took a lot of effort to distance themselves from his act. Wilders immediately condemned the act. After 9/11, some young muslim immigrants were apparently seen partying in the streets. That's a big difference in approach, and it breeds the kind of distrust that made Wilders popular.

Edit: edited because the grammar was too awful.



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16 May 2012, 5:17 pm

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Not all, but a lot of people who were in some way part of a group mentioned in Breivik's manifesto took a lot of effort to distance themselves from his act. Wilders immediately condemned the act. After 9/11, some young muslim immigrants were apparently seen partying in the streets. That's a big difference in approach, and it breeds the kind of distrust that made Wilders popular.

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Young Muslims on 9/11 were partying in America?

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16 May 2012, 6:02 pm

Not sure if they did so in America, but they did so here, which is why I compared it to Wilders immediately condemning Breivik.



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16 May 2012, 7:29 pm

As, also, did people like Pat Condell and others.