Proof of a NWO

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The Chicago school (also called neoliberal or neoclassical economics) is global capitalism or economic imperialism. It is out in the open - not a conspiracy.

This thread is pure gold.

Thread of the year

i'd personally disagree with this. as you say, it is a personality type, which is a spectrum in nature, but an individual's circumstances can change, causing a shift along the spectrum in either direction. because unlike other neurological variations, the conspiratorial mindset is based upon belief, which itself can obviously change. i've witnessed this in people i know. often it concurs with a change in consumption of psychoactive substances.

a good example. i also believe this to be true. events in chile are also a good example of the above in practice. this, however, is recorded historical fact, which, of course, can be interpreted subject to opinion. the problem however lies in what i described in a previous post. you are allowing your understanding of events such as the above to skew your mindset and allow you to believe things which are ever more increasingly absurd and extreme by trying to tie world events together into a meta-narrative. your line of thinking, relying on confirmation bias, allows you to believe absurd things simply because they tie in with your world view.

as robert anton wilson so rightly said, the thinker thinks and the prover proves.

I haven't consumed any psychoactive substances in the longest time. I wish I could get my hands on some chronic. So don't assume I'm some drug addict with a schizotypal personality disorder. What I am is someone who is slowly connecting
the dots while the rest of you debate whether or not those dots exist. Yes I am a member of ATS but I also follow
the evidence that other members post. I don't regurgitate that evidence on Wrong Planet, but the evidence is there
for you to search for if you'd like on ATS. There's videos, articles, and full explanations from other members.

In the Rockefeller report, it states that by 2015 citizens will be wearing a bullet proof vest with their national flag
on it. (Does it seem that far fetched by now?) Don't you constantly hear about the "world coming together" at
the olympics? When has that ever been the slogan of the Olympics? They've turned it into a marketing ploy for
their own personal agenda at this point. The Olympics was always about strength never about communion.

This is a thread from ATS which pulls something right out of 1984 by George Orwell concerning the batman shooter.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread864192/pg1

What is the point of NWO? Out of interest? Why does that explanation fit more than, say human nature?

All the the conspiracy behind NWO doesn't, explain that. There is plenty of power an influence without NWO, it is just convenient to group it all together as one grand conspiracy.

And actually NWO, was a buzz word just like Big Society is a buzz phrase, they are bs/spin that suited the politicians at the time.

They wouldn't have used that phase, if it was supposed to be secret. What is the point of dropping these subtle hints, do they want conspiracy theorist to play a game?

Herein lies the flaw, you can connect the dots anyway you want, you can use any bit of information. Peebo got it right, all you are doing is proving yourself right, it is not really objective.

I might notice that people with lung cancer have yellow teeth, So therefore I might think that yellow teeth causes cancer, then link other things to yellow teeth, and link those other things to cancer. Every now an then I might identify a carcinogen, but it is coincidental.

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Aside: what concern me most neurosis is prevalent, and I think our lifestyle, plus media addiction doesn't help. Therefore there can be too much focus on negatives. This whole concept is 'dark times' is very subjective. However history will tell you we are less violent and have less bloody wars then in the past.

That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Your addictions are the problem. Tell me how your addictions are helping anybody except yourself.

Linking yellow teeth to cancer is stupid. You can also link it to not brushing your teeth or drinking too much coffee.

You can't link heinous crimes committed by the government and corporations to anything except poverty and other negative emotions.

The NWO exist BECAUSE your addictions are a problem. It's stated in the agenda 21. "Humans addictions have gotten out of control" and now everyone is relying on government to fix the problems because they're so out of control they have no idea the impact they cause on the other side of the spectrum. I wouldn't mind paying 1000 dollars for a laptop if it were made in Canada as opposed to somewhere in China. But the DEMAND is exceeding the actual need. Families think they need two or three laptops, or that students need MacBooks. The DEMAND is there. Don't tell me the demand isn't there.

Wanna know why we have so many McDonalds? Because A LOT of parents thinks they don't have enough TIME so they opt out for fast food rather than teaching their children to cook, or cooking a healthy meal themselves. Most people don't even grow things in their garden or have grow ops with their community or complex's. It isn't even encouraged.

David Rockefeller is quoted as saying "A little bit more!" when asked how much money is enough. Does this scare you yet?! Someone who is behind the Vatican and the trillions of bonds issued by the Federal Reserve wants complete control over society AND THEN SOME! Get it?!

This is just like in Star Wars when Palpatine encourages Anakin to join the dark side and the Republic rebels against it's own citizens - creating a terrorist state and only a few people are left to survive, and only a few people believe that it wasn't the Jedi's who were the problem - BUT THE DARK SIDE

You obviously failed the grasp the point of my post. I was not actually linking cancer to yellow teeth, it is well known example of logical fallacy. It is meant to be ridiculous, but the principle is very similar the logic leaps people made with conspiracies. Actually in the past it would have been considered so ridiculous, because they had no clue about what could cause cancer. However, by using a more object process it ruled out jumping to conclusion based pure on on what is seen.

Besides what do you know about my addictions? Nothing.

You haven't answered my question, and you confirm to be that you a not of the disposition that understands what a definitive answer means.

You say, that NWO, exists because of my addictions, but this neither answers why NWO exist nor the point of it.

Well 0 equals true you make no sense and I don't care to listen to what you have to say
anymore until you do.

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He was not speaking about himself, and basically what he said was applicable to you. So you should be asking yourself this question now.



1) Don't you see the irony in what you've just said?
2) I could also link heinous crimes by government and corporations to fraud, anti-Semitism, racism. Well, I could link it to anything if I wanted to, facts are irrelevant if I believe it to be so.



We won't tell you the demand isn't there. People are buying this sh*t. We know this. You are going back to this whole "needs" and "necessity" thing again. We've gone over this like 4 times in 3 different threads. And not just me, other people as well. Note the same people are debating with you on the same topics over and over. At least bring something new to the table when you flog a dead horse. Also, enough with the Apple hate. It does nothing but make you look like a juvenile undergrad. Well, most of this does but I digress. Moving on:



Wrong. There's a lot of Macdonalds and countless other chains because humans eat a lot. Can you believe that? It's insane isn't it! This idea people want really cheap, immediately accessible food? What Heathens they are! As far as agriculture goes, not only is it discouraged but it's also in some cases illegal to do in North America (includes Canada). And then there's regulations, the ever-crippling of the farm industry, increases in oil prices and so on and so on. Are you going to blame the people for not bankrupting themselves? I thought you wanted the government not to impoverish the normal folks of society but it seems you are disappointed the people don't impoverish themselves!



That's funny, I thought almost all CEO's and other financial leaders had this sort of motto. Do you expect them to go "Oh hey Larry we are making too much money, it's time for us to sh*t in our own pants and sabotage our company, or better yet give some money away to appease the ramblings of some skinny white guy on an Asperger's forum!". No, neither do I. But thanks for asking if I get it. Because I do. It's alright.



1) That quote was by 1 person, and directed at nobody.
2) You'll find the Empire encompassed BILLIONS of people, not a bare few. How would slavery work if you remove the slaves? Doesn't this clash with your theories of Eugenics and population control the same people are supposedly dabbling with?
3) If you think about it the Jedi's were the lesser of the 2 evils. Much like Starfleet in Star Trek is shown as the good guy but they go round claiming parts of the galaxy and start policing new species (how vain, "new to them" is more accurate) through diplomacy when it was never theirs to begin with. You're against policing from one bunch of people but like it from another. How does this fit in with your anti-establishment drivel?

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WW if you want to make a critique about consumerism, corporatism, and collusion. Then we would probably agree on many things.

However where I disagree is with this catch all NWO. It is far too convenient, and lazy, as well as lumping whole host of other bad things under the same flag.

The 'conspiracy' is us. Humans. There is all sorts of complex behaviors going on, and there is even a seemly contradictory nature.

I tend to favour pragmatic solutions, however. It is very easy to lump most things in the dark side. But actually there are certain home truths and we have to work with how we are.

I believe in mechanisms only, we are far too idealistic. The reality is things can be useful up to a point in a range of conditions, and therefore we should approach problems like that, rather than an ideal. That is why I'm against manifesto politics.

I agree with you that we also open to influence, but I would also argue that is taken advantage of by many different people including ourselves, and the moral high ground on this is not very high.

This. Much simpler to grasp and the overall root cause of almost all of today's problems.
Want to do something? You could start with wiping out people. Or don't. We really don't need another Joker on our hands. Then again, you're not a funny guy so I guess you'd be Penguin.

There is somewhat of a conspiracy with food industry to be fair. It is well known, but how much is a cartel and how much is simply practicing the same way is unclear. It is certainly the case that food industry reps, would mix in the same circles, and it would not be unlikely that the would seek a joint advantage, or at least to maintain the status quo.

Convenience food is exactly that, for lazy people. They realized that once people stat down they, they were less likely to go an get another order, especially at additional cost So they increases the portions an made them cheaper. This isn't a conspiracy, it well known. Supersized orders have driven, up sales considerably. At the time they probably didn't think this is a biggie.

The food industry like many other industries a resistant to any idea that they might be causing harm. Now where you stand on this depends the way you think. Some would say let people choose regardless. Others would point out these foods are designed to create dependance, having high levels of sugar and fat, and the cost is felt by all of us.

There are examples of an cynical approach to change. For instance the 'Low Fat' era, where they brought out many products that were marketed as low fat, but actually were high in calories.

Oh God I love that arrogant BS. Because the more elaborate a theory is, the more logical it is and the more irrelevant dots you can connect the truer the conspiracy is since the shadowy figures depend on us sheep being too stupid to put 2 and 2 together.

Guess what? It's the other way around. The more people involved, the harder it is to sweep under the rug. The more elaborate a plot is, the more contingencies that can get in the way. Manpower and elaborate planning makes things even more inconvenient. If a plan is complicated, executing that plan would be even more so. People aren't ants and bees so we aren't nearly as cohesive as conspiracy theorists make it out to be and our agency really gets in the way of things.

Unethical business practices are a common feature of global capitalism. They are not evidence of a conspiracy.