Remember when the liberals said that there were no WMDs

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Nah. I'm just through helping you prove that you're a loser. I think you've added yourself to more ignore lists in the past few days than you have since you registered. That's progress.

I didn't ask you which "side" you were on. I was asking you for the essential basis of your socio-political and economic views. I was interested in knowing your underlying philosophy on government, economics, personal liberty, morality, and society. I wanted to know the criteria on which you weigh an issue. I wanted to know your core values. To have socio-political leanings does not require one to be liberal or conservative. You aren't Alice in Wonderland, being given the choices of Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. There are hundreds of millions of sets of philosophies out there for you to choose from. Pick one. Pick ten. Pick fifty for all I care, but clearly and unequivocally define your basic views, values, and beliefs instead of repeating this omnipresent foolishness of thinking of all politics in terms of this concocted continuum between dumb and dumber. If it rests between two buttocks, ten to one it stinks.

ah, point taken. i must have overlooked that comment by griff.

To state what you want would take pages and pages of writing, and frankly, its not worth my time to hold a discussion with you going by your replies to other people. If you want to gain a sense of my point of views, go through my posts. I have written about morality, faith, religion, society, and the government before. But, I'm not gonna take the time to restate them because you challenged me to do so. So, go ahead, rail, rant, cuss, and swear all you want. I find it rather amusing at this point.

Generally speaking, the world superpowers know exactly what weapons the lesser nations have got, because (as Bill Hicks pointed out) they just look at the order forms.

For info on the British weapons industry, check out "As Used On The Famous Nelson Mandela: Underground Adventures in the Arms & Torture Trade" by Mark Thomas, Ebury Press, 2006.

excellent point, sociable_hermit

just as an aside, mark thomas is excellent. one of his series pretty much focused on the arms trade. enlightening stuff, indeed. his recent thing where he took part in 21 lone protests in one day, to protest new labour's ban on protesting around london, was highly amusing.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1920095,00.html

Now THAT is fantastic!

No, it wouldn't. You decide one way or the other on something based on a particular set of core values, whether you know you have them or not.

I was exchanging flames with the dude because he started this thread with exactly that purpose in mind. I was giving him what he came looking for. That's what you don't seem to get. Read the OP for yourself. It was flame-bait.

Why did you think the thread was still open? Flame wars are always amusing. However, asking you about the basis of your political views was not a part of it. It was a sincere inquiry. It really is something that you need to think over outside of the ret*d context of "liberal vs. conservative."