Income Inequality in America

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Why aren't people qualified for these jobs exactly? How many people have a degree in a STEM field and are not able to obtain a job in a STEM field? Why are so many people unqualified for a job in the STEM field even though they received a degree in it? Could it be that employers are looking for cheap labor and have found it through the HB1 visas? Let's talk about Information Technology.

http://techtalk.dice.com/t5/IT-CS-Stude ... d-p/198233

Look at what Walterbyrd and Charged Neutral says. Are they correct in what they are saying? Why are there so many people who graduate with an IT degree who are not qualified for any of the jobs out there and it is set up to be impossible to get qualified? Why does it seem like all of these IT jobs require multi-skills with years of experience?

http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/ ... /?cs=42116
http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/ ... /?cs=41992

Look at the comments especially made by supportUSworkers. Look at Delores as well. Are they correct in what they're saying? Why is it reported that there is a shortage of workers and many people in America can't seem to get into these fields? Why does this condition exist Fnord? Is he correct in what he is saying? Are companies outsourcing to India and only hiring those with HB1 visas?

If they're is correct could there be deception going on? Why is there a report of shortage of workers yet not a lot of people in America can obtain a job in the STEM field? What are we all doing wrong Fnord or is it really us?

My point was Raptor was being annoying as usual forcing me to respond. I don't feel like getting into an off topic pissing match with you, bye.

The only answer I have is that "systemically significant" companies shouldn't be allowed to exist in the first place without public accountability. Our current global absentee owner / investor / shareholder driven economic model is a failure. It has turned companies into simple money-making machines for shareholders with no accountability to the broader sphere of stakeholders. I'm all for capitalism on the small scale. There's a big difference between owning a local restaurant and owning a chunk of a multinational conglomerate.

My pension plan, and the pension plan of every worker fortunate enough to have one would beg to differ.

Who are those shareholders for whom these companies are money making machines? 30% of global equities are owned by pension funds. Another 30% are owned by mutual funds. Slightly less than that are owned by insurance companies. That leaves less than 20% owned by private equity funds, soverign funds (mostly government pension funds) and individual shareholders.

Every one of you who has a pension, or a retirement fund, is depending upon that money continuing to be made, so that there is something for you to live on in your retirement.

Honestly, this is what I say as well. I believe corporations are a government created entity. Government comes up with the laws for how corps will be formed and what the corp's structure will be. In one sense I wish we had the mom and pop shops back again and the family owned farms again.

Umm, that's the *entire point* of a market economy.

And how has it failed?

I will answer. If it is all about making money than it is very successful. To me, a good society is more than just about money. A good society encourages kindness and love. A good society is about seeking truths as best as possible and cultivating a moral and excellent character. The members of a good society helps those who can't help themselves.

A good society questions itself and examines its own truths and principles from time to time. What is the way that a society can be good, moral and virtuous? Honestly, America has excellent technology and has a lot of wealth but America lacks what makes an excellent character.

Economically wise, the market economy may be a great success but one has to give up his soul for the almighty dollar. This is ultimately the first thing I see as wrong with America. He has to give up his sense of wonder and the why for the sake of the American Business Machine.

IMHO, the American people are selling their souls for the almighty dollar.

Business is not sentiment.

Being wonderful and kind and good does not produce a single nail or screw.

ruveyn

You're right, business is not sentiment. You're right my friend that being wonderful and kind does not produce a single nail or screw. Therein lies the problem with business as a concept. They only value what can be purchased and sold. They see life in terms of a commodity. Yes, one does need to keep in mind the resources to produce the nail or screw and I agree with this but only to a certain extent. I see life as much more than a commodity.

The nature of business is cold, dark, inhuman and lacks a soul. You're correct about everything you say about business. Our society is a business driven culture and people are selling their very souls and for what? Money and tangible possessions. Money is a tool just like resources but they're not the end all be all.

Our country and society is rich with money, possessions, and tangible goods but lacks a soul. America lacks that passionate spark. IMHO, our country is out of balance. Honestly, there is nothing I can do about it and all I can do is live my life the best that I can.

In the end, I do not believe socialism will work in America because a good chunk of people do not want it or desire it. In order for a given society to change, a good amount of people would have to desire. Implementing laws will not work. In order for a given society to be better the people in it would have to decide to change for themselves. Change has to come from within not from outside using laws and guns. I can state what I believe. I can write my writings. I can use reasoning and logic. I can attempt to convince others but in the end it is up to others to accept what I have to say or not. In the end, a person will believe what they will believe.

To me, certain parts of life is unfair because people accept it to be that way and indirectly desire it to be this way. This is the great paradox that I see. Life is unfair cause others accept it as so and others accept it as so because life is unfair. I will continue to write my writings, my thoughts, my beliefs, and I will continue to question and challenge others people's beliefs. If my beliefs end up being wrong or flawed I will correct them.

Who knows? Maybe another people 1000s of years from now may form a society based upon certain things I believe. Maybe some of my beliefs will be challenged and reformed as well. It is what I desire. If I can bring benefit to a society or a group of people 1000s of years from then I have succeeded. If I can benefit humanity as a whole that may exist 1000s of years from now with what I say and write then this is what I desire.

To me, seeking truth is not the end it is a process of endless refinement for better beliefs, philosophies, economies,etc.

To me, the ultimate answer(s) are not static and final. They are a process of continuous refinement. This is because facts are not just facts onto themselves. The facts we have our are interpretations of the actual facts. To me, we can get closer and closer to obtaining a final answer(s) but we can never do so. It is similar to limits in math. We can get closer and closer to dividing by 0 but never can truthfully divide by 0.

Purchased, sold and -used-. Love and goodness will not fashion a book case. Love and goodness will not get you to the store to buy your food. Love and goodness will not sustain your life for very long. We can live without love or goodness (although it would not be much fun) be we -can't- live without food, clothing and shelter.

ruveyn

People tend to go into business to derive monetary profit from providing goods and services, not to provide jobs.

There you go again, being rational. That will never do, here on PPR. You have to lean so far to the left your right leg will the longer than the other leg.

ruveyn

Eloquent way of highlighting why the profit motive is an unutilitarian and poor basis for operating a society.

Don't knock. It is what keeps you and your incorrect opinion fed and healthy.

ruveyn

correction. Its what keeps the stagnant masses just smart enough to pull the levers and stupid enough to not know when they're being f****d over.

"Keep them in the public houses and out of the libraries"-Winston Churchill.

I agree with what you are saying. Everything you say is true. I never said to totally discard the concept of capital and money. Far from it. Money and resources do have to be considered a factor as in economics resources are scarce. What I am saying is that it should not be the only factor. I am not saying to get rid of x but add y in addition to x. I will go into more specifics.

I am not asking for government intervention or government laws. The main reason this does not work is because it produces resentment.

What I am asking for can only come from inside of a person and has to be intrinsic and genuine. Fnord already does this somewhat. I commend him for that.

What I am asking for is for those who are rich like the billionaires is to voluntarily put up their own money and resources to help people out who need it. Help people to get on their feet and out of their situations. If a person lacks social skills then provide him the resources and knowledge to help them gain them voluntarily out of the goodness of your own heart and the salary you draw. Be genuine about it and don't do it as a front to get ratings.

Fnord could provide tips of his own as to how he got through basic training and how he got through the military. Has he ever done that while he is here or has he accused people of being whiners? Some of us could use his tips to our own advantage in our everyday lives.

What about you my friend? You were born during the start of WWII. You lived almost a lifetime. You could easily give specific tips as to how you were able to make it in America during your life time.

Ultimately, what I am asking for those who are able to do so like the billionaires is to provide fish, teach people how to fish, so they can do it themselves.

Government law only will force people to do so which will not work because of built up resentment of being forced to do certain things they do not want to do.

What I desire is the community back again and the mindset of we're all in this together and not every man for himself.