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Kraichgauer
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26 Apr 2013, 5:06 pm
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
As for the Weavers, they were imports from somewhere in the Midwest. That herodan Vicki Weaver thought they could avoid the coming apocalypse by retreating to the mountains in the west. The fact that she's been buried minus part of her head
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Very unChristian of you to say that.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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26 Apr 2013, 5:15 pm
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26 Apr 2013, 6:06 pm
I think this whole thread was one boys idea to start up a gun argument and he got just what he wanted.
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26 Apr 2013, 6:30 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I know who Sarah Brady is - I was being facetious.
I'm not a mind reader and I tend to take things literally right off the bat.
Sue me.
Kraichgauer wrote:
And sure I chimed in earlier, but even before that I had mentioned how rights had been expanding for blacks and gays in more recent decades, which hardly means rights are being rolled back. I consider that post of mine to have been more pertinent to the spirit of the discussion.
This is where yours and my favorite political/philosophical topics merge together; yours being black and gay rights and mine of gun rights.
Has it ever just once occurred to you that it's in the best interest of black and/or gay people to be armed against attack? It really does happen, especially with gays, and by attacks I'm not talking about hurt feelings on a message board I'm talking the real deal.
Sometimes we have to look at reality without regard to political party dogma.
Even I, a hate-filled conservative, do sometimes.
There, I said it and I hope it wasn't all for naught.
When did I ever say I was against self defense? Or even self defense using a gun? I'm against this cult of the gun, where second amendment rights somehow supersede every other right. That, and I believe constitutional gun rights, as any right, are not limitless - and the line drawn on gun rights ought to be with automatic and semi-automatic weapons.
Crazy people, which should include people on the political and/or religious extremes really should be prevented from stockpiling guns to prepare for the Apocalypse - nothing good ever comes from that.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Just when I thought MAYBE I could get through..........
More when I get home.
Kraichgauer
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26 Apr 2013, 6:49 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I know who Sarah Brady is - I was being facetious.
I'm not a mind reader and I tend to take things literally right off the bat.
Sue me.
Kraichgauer wrote:
And sure I chimed in earlier, but even before that I had mentioned how rights had been expanding for blacks and gays in more recent decades, which hardly means rights are being rolled back. I consider that post of mine to have been more pertinent to the spirit of the discussion.
This is where yours and my favorite political/philosophical topics merge together; yours being black and gay rights and mine of gun rights.
Has it ever just once occurred to you that it's in the best interest of black and/or gay people to be armed against attack? It really does happen, especially with gays, and by attacks I'm not talking about hurt feelings on a message board I'm talking the real deal.
Sometimes we have to look at reality without regard to political party dogma.
Even I, a hate-filled conservative, do sometimes.
There, I said it and I hope it wasn't all for naught.
When did I ever say I was against self defense? Or even self defense using a gun? I'm against this cult of the gun, where second amendment rights somehow supersede every other right. That, and I believe constitutional gun rights, as any right, are not limitless - and the line drawn on gun rights ought to be with automatic and semi-automatic weapons.
Crazy people, which should include people on the political and/or religious extremes really should be prevented from stockpiling guns to prepare for the Apocalypse - nothing good ever comes from that.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Just when I thought MAYBE I could get through..........
More when I get home.
Really? I thought I reached out half way.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
26 Apr 2013, 8:42 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I know who Sarah Brady is - I was being facetious.
I'm not a mind reader and I tend to take things literally right off the bat.
Sue me.
Kraichgauer wrote:
And sure I chimed in earlier, but even before that I had mentioned how rights had been expanding for blacks and gays in more recent decades, which hardly means rights are being rolled back. I consider that post of mine to have been more pertinent to the spirit of the discussion.
This is where yours and my favorite political/philosophical topics merge together; yours being black and gay rights and mine of gun rights.
Has it ever just once occurred to you that it's in the best interest of black and/or gay people to be armed against attack? It really does happen, especially with gays, and by attacks I'm not talking about hurt feelings on a message board I'm talking the real deal.
Sometimes we have to look at reality without regard to political party dogma.
Even I, a hate-filled conservative, do sometimes.
There, I said it and I hope it wasn't all for naught.
When did I ever say I was against self defense? Or even self defense using a gun? I'm against this cult of the gun, where second amendment rights somehow supersede every other right. That, and I believe constitutional gun rights, as any right, are not limitless - and the line drawn on gun rights ought to be with automatic and semi-automatic weapons.
Crazy people, which should include people on the political and/or religious extremes really should be prevented from stockpiling guns to prepare for the Apocalypse - nothing good ever comes from that.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Just when I thought MAYBE I could get through..........
More when I get home.
Really? I thought I reached out half way.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Kraichgauer wrote:
When did I ever say I was against self defense? Or even self defense using a gun?
Being anti-gun, and you have demonstrated that you are, it kind of implies being against armed self defense.
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm against this cult of the gun, where second amendment rights somehow supersede every other right.
Do you even know what a "cult of the gun" is? If so what's wrong with it?
No other rights in recent years have come under attack like second amendment rights. Should it really be a surprise that we hold them near and dear?
Kraichgauer wrote:
That, and I believe constitutional gun rights, as any right, are not limitless - and the line drawn on gun rights ought to be with automatic and semi-automatic weapons.
And why is that? Give rationale for your fear/hatred of semi-autos and even full auto weapons.
Kraichgauer wrote:
Crazy people, which should include people on the political and/or religious extremes really should be prevented from stockpiling guns to prepare for the Apocalypse - nothing good ever comes from that.
Who gets to define what crazy is and who is crazy?
Here you're throwing emotions at a legal matter.
All I'm seeing here is more emotional canned rhetoric.
Dox is right; we take the time to walk you through things like this only to have you go back to your default settings over and over.
26 Apr 2013, 8:57 pm
Kraichgauer
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26 Apr 2013, 10:12 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I know who Sarah Brady is - I was being facetious.
I'm not a mind reader and I tend to take things literally right off the bat.
Sue me.
Kraichgauer wrote:
And sure I chimed in earlier, but even before that I had mentioned how rights had been expanding for blacks and gays in more recent decades, which hardly means rights are being rolled back. I consider that post of mine to have been more pertinent to the spirit of the discussion.
This is where yours and my favorite political/philosophical topics merge together; yours being black and gay rights and mine of gun rights.
Has it ever just once occurred to you that it's in the best interest of black and/or gay people to be armed against attack? It really does happen, especially with gays, and by attacks I'm not talking about hurt feelings on a message board I'm talking the real deal.
Sometimes we have to look at reality without regard to political party dogma.
Even I, a hate-filled conservative, do sometimes.
There, I said it and I hope it wasn't all for naught.
When did I ever say I was against self defense? Or even self defense using a gun? I'm against this cult of the gun, where second amendment rights somehow supersede every other right. That, and I believe constitutional gun rights, as any right, are not limitless - and the line drawn on gun rights ought to be with automatic and semi-automatic weapons.
Crazy people, which should include people on the political and/or religious extremes really should be prevented from stockpiling guns to prepare for the Apocalypse - nothing good ever comes from that.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Just when I thought MAYBE I could get through..........
More when I get home.
Really? I thought I reached out half way.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Kraichgauer wrote:
When did I ever say I was against self defense? Or even self defense using a gun?
Being anti-gun, and you have demonstrated that you are, it kind of implies being against armed self defense.
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm against this cult of the gun, where second amendment rights somehow supersede every other right.
Do you even know what a "cult of the gun" is? If so what's wrong with it?
No other rights in recent years have come under attack like second amendment rights. Should it really be a surprise that we hold them near and dear?
Kraichgauer wrote:
That, and I believe constitutional gun rights, as any right, are not limitless - and the line drawn on gun rights ought to be with automatic and semi-automatic weapons.
And why is that? Give rationale for your fear/hatred of semi-autos and even full auto weapons.
Kraichgauer wrote:
Crazy people, which should include people on the political and/or religious extremes really should be prevented from stockpiling guns to prepare for the Apocalypse - nothing good ever comes from that.
Who gets to define what crazy is and who is crazy?
Here you're throwing emotions at a legal matter.
All I'm seeing here is more emotional canned rhetoric.
Dox is right; we take the time to walk you through things like this only to have you go back to your default settings over and over.
Actually, I agree with you and Dox in the sense that this whole argument has been repeated again and again, as if we're all caught in a time loop, like in Groundhog's Day. I'm afraid my brain grows numb with ennui.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
