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01 Jun 2013, 12:47 am

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An example of Assad terrorism:

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Arrest [edit]

Samaha was arrested on 9 August 2012 due to his involvement in transporting explosives into Lebanon with the help of the Syrian Security Chief Ali Mamlouk and his attempt to destabilize the country.[20] The other reason for his arrest was "inciting sectarian strife" in Lebanon.[21] Samaha was arrested based on the instructions from the acting public prosecutor of Lebanon.[22]
In December 2012, 14 March MP Okab Sakr claimed that Jamil Al Sayyed, who is one of Samaha's close confidants, had been in the car with Samaha along with a third person while transferring explosives from Syria to Lebanon to carry out terrorist attacks.[23][24] Samaha had close links with various senior Syrian political and intelligence aides, including top adviser to President Assad, Butheina Shaban in relation to this activities.[25][24]

One of Samaha's lawyers is Sayyed's son, Malek Sayyed.[26][27] Samaha confessed on 10 August to the Internal Security Forces Information Branch that Syrian President Bashar Assad wanted bomb attacks in Lebanon.[28] Najib Mikati, the Lebanese Prime Minister, stated in September 2012 that Samaha admitted his involvement of plotting terror attacks in Lebanon.[29] According to leaked interrogation transcripts, Samaha suggested that the bombs were meant to target Lebanese Christian leaders in order to raise sectarian tensions.[30]

The intelligence branch of the Lebanese Internal Security Forces (ISF), headed by Wissam al-Hassan who was assassinated on 19 October 2012, played a central role in his arrest.[31][32] Samir Geagea argued that al-Hassan was assassinated due to his involvement in the arrest of Samaha.[33]



It's very hypocrite of you to claim that Al Assad protectsChristians, his regime was the fiercest enemy and killer against Lebanese Christians - Why do you think Mcalevera hates him for example?



Syria entered the war on the side of the Christians in 1975.


Please spur my historic memory concerning that conflict.

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01 Jun 2013, 4:26 am

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I's not going to be easy for both Christians and Muslims once Bashar is down. But at least with Bashar out of the way, there is a better chance to true peace.

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In a Muslim country that borders on Israel? Not a chance.

Very few Islamic countries are "peaceful". Most are tyrannies.

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Under the Assad dictatorship, it's practically 0% probability to true peace.

If Bashar goes down, there is at least some chance that the Islamicists won't prevail and that all Syrians, Christian and Muslim, will benefit from his fall.



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01 Jun 2013, 4:30 am

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Americans Oppose U.S. Military Involvement in Syria

PRINCETON, NJ -- Sixty-eight percent of Americans say the United States should not use military action in Syria to attempt to end the civil war there if diplomatic and economic efforts fail, while 24% would favor U.S. military involvement.

Americans are not optimistic that the conflict between government and rebel forces in Syria will be solved through diplomatic and economic means. The May 28-29 Gallup poll finds that Americans do not believe such efforts will resolve the conflict, by 58% to 27%.

Thus, Americans seem to have a clear preference for keeping the U.S. military out of the Syrian conflict, given their opposition to such involvement even though they expect that diplomatic efforts will fail to bring peace.

Sen. John McCain recently visited Syria; he has favored providing arms to the anti-government forces there. To date, the Obama administration's actions have been limited to participating in third-party peace talks and providing food and medical aid to anti-government forces. However, the administration says it is keeping its options open.

Forty-nine percent of Americans say they are following news about the Syrian conflict "very" or "somewhat" closely. That is below the historical average of 60% for more than 200 news events Gallup has measured since 1992.

There are relatively modest differences by subgroup in the percentage who say the United States should use military action in Syria. Republicans are somewhat more likely than Democrats to support U.S. military action, 31% to 20%. College graduates are less inclined to support U.S. military involvement than those without a college degree.


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I agree. We should let the Syrians wipe themselves out. A world without Syrians is a better world

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I have Syrian relatives, but I will forgive you for what you just said, ruveyn, because after all you're an old Jew who doesn't know any better.



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01 Jun 2013, 4:54 am

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I have Syrian relatives, but I will forgive you for what you just said, ruveyn, because after all you're an old Jew who doesn't know any better.


Even a really pissed-off Geert Wilders wouldn't say stuff like that.



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01 Jun 2013, 7:47 am

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I have Syrian relatives, but I will forgive you for what you just said, ruveyn, because after all you're an old Jew who doesn't know any better.


Even a really pissed-off Geert Wilders wouldn't say stuff like that.


Yes he would, but not in public.

Any time a Muslim nation is willing to depopulate itself, we should not stand in its way.

Fewer Muslims means a better world for the non-Muslims.

Whenever Muslims come into power and impose Shariah misery or squalor blooms and flourishes. Even in a rich country like Saudi Arabia (of course they are rich, they stole oil they never found) the women are treated like brood mares and cattle.

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01 Jun 2013, 8:15 am

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I have Syrian relatives, but I will forgive you for what you just said, ruveyn, because after all you're an old Jew who doesn't know any better.


Even a really pissed-off Geert Wilders wouldn't say stuff like that.


Yes he would, but not in public.

Any time a Muslim nation is willing to depopulate itself, we should not stand in its way.

Fewer Muslims means a better world for the non-Muslims.

Whenever Muslims come into power and impose Shariah misery or squalor blooms and flourishes. Even in a rich country like Saudi Arabia (of course they are rich, they stole oil they never found) the women are treated like brood mares and cattle.

ruveyn


Eerily similar to Hitler's mode of thinking. This subtle and indirect invitation to genocide is typically a sign of confused morals or mental deterioration. Instead of wishing demise on a whole group of people, many of whom have done no harm to you or your loved ones or to any others, how about just hoping for the best for these people that they end up thriving within a society that allows for much more lenience and tolerance and doesn't enable the extreme types no more.

Also, not all Syrians are Muslim (not that this means anything). But do you also want them wiped out? You must be very proud of yourself, man.



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01 Jun 2013, 8:56 am

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I have Syrian relatives, but I will forgive you for what you just said, ruveyn, because after all you're an old Jew who doesn't know any better.


Even a really pissed-off Geert Wilders wouldn't say stuff like that.


So...

Imagine if person A said "all blacks should be exterminated". And person B responds that "you're just an old white guy who doesnt know any better so you're forgiven for saying that."

You would come down on person B, but you would NOT object ot what person A said.

Why is that?

Can you walk us through your logic please?

Its okay to talk like HItler, but its NOT okay to forgive someone for talking like Hitler?

How does THAT work?

Okay... McC did say R was a "Jew". But he obviously meant "a partisan of Israel who has reason to consider syria an enemy".

But even McC was being antisemitic- so what? He didnt say "all jews should be exterminated".

Mc was ether not being an a**hole, or was being less of an a**hole than R.

So why is being a big a**hole acceptable, but being a minor a**hole not acceptable?

I mean seriously: walk us through this please.



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01 Jun 2013, 9:15 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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An example of Assad terrorism:

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Arrest [edit]

Samaha was arrested on 9 August 2012 due to his involvement in transporting explosives into Lebanon with the help of the Syrian Security Chief Ali Mamlouk and his attempt to destabilize the country.[20] The other reason for his arrest was "inciting sectarian strife" in Lebanon.[21] Samaha was arrested based on the instructions from the acting public prosecutor of Lebanon.[22]
In December 2012, 14 March MP Okab Sakr claimed that Jamil Al Sayyed, who is one of Samaha's close confidants, had been in the car with Samaha along with a third person while transferring explosives from Syria to Lebanon to carry out terrorist attacks.[23][24] Samaha had close links with various senior Syrian political and intelligence aides, including top adviser to President Assad, Butheina Shaban in relation to this activities.[25][24]

One of Samaha's lawyers is Sayyed's son, Malek Sayyed.[26][27] Samaha confessed on 10 August to the Internal Security Forces Information Branch that Syrian President Bashar Assad wanted bomb attacks in Lebanon.[28] Najib Mikati, the Lebanese Prime Minister, stated in September 2012 that Samaha admitted his involvement of plotting terror attacks in Lebanon.[29] According to leaked interrogation transcripts, Samaha suggested that the bombs were meant to target Lebanese Christian leaders in order to raise sectarian tensions.[30]

The intelligence branch of the Lebanese Internal Security Forces (ISF), headed by Wissam al-Hassan who was assassinated on 19 October 2012, played a central role in his arrest.[31][32] Samir Geagea argued that al-Hassan was assassinated due to his involvement in the arrest of Samaha.[33]



It's very hypocrite of you to claim that Al Assad protectsChristians, his regime was the fiercest enemy and killer against Lebanese Christians - Why do you think Mcalevera hates him for example?



Syria entered the war on the side of the Christians in 1975.


Please spur my historic memory concerning that conflict.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


On 1975, and later???? Yeah xenon, tell him the whole story.

http://www.liberty05.com/civilwar/civil.html



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01 Jun 2013, 9:23 am

Mc is semitic lol

That term is stupid to be applied on semitic.

Besides, Tequilla, Mc just said "you're an old jew" = no violence.

While ruveyn promoted extermination of Syrians = ??!



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01 Jun 2013, 10:04 am

I think Tequila commented on what ruveyn said, not MCalavera.



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01 Jun 2013, 11:42 am

Yeah, Tequila was referring to ruveyn's comment, not mine.

And I don't hate Jews in general just for your information, everyone.

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On 1975, and later???? Yeah xenon, tell him the whole story.

http://www.liberty05.com/civilwar/civil.html


I just realized what xenon was saying exactly. He is saying Syria did nothing against the Lebanese Christians, right? Now that's the joke of the century.



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01 Jun 2013, 11:48 am

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While ruveyn promoted extermination of Syrians = ??!


I did not. I said (pay attention now): If the Syrians want to kill each other off, we should not interfere. I never said we should go and kill the Syrians.

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01 Jun 2013, 1:00 pm

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While ruveyn promoted extermination of Syrians = ??!


I did not. I said (pay attention now): If the Syrians want to kill each other off, we should not interfere. I never said we should go and kill the Syrians.

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My bad, sorry abt that.



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01 Jun 2013, 1:15 pm

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I think Tequila commented on what ruveyn said, not MCalavera.


This.



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01 Jun 2013, 1:29 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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While ruveyn promoted extermination of Syrians = ??!


I did not. I said (pay attention now): If the Syrians want to kill each other off, we should not interfere. I never said we should go and kill the Syrians.

ruveyn


My bad, sorry abt that.


Actually, he did promote the extermination of Syrians. You didn't misrepresent him. One doesn't have to explicitly state that we must all go exterminate them; supporting their extermination is still promoting it.



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01 Jun 2013, 2:12 pm

MCalavera wrote:
Yeah, Tequila was referring to ruveyn's comment, not mine.

And I don't hate Jews in general just for your information, everyone.

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On 1975, and later???? Yeah xenon, tell him the whole story.

http://www.liberty05.com/civilwar/civil.html


I just realized what xenon was saying exactly. He is saying Syria did nothing against the Lebanese Christians, right? Now that's the joke of the century.


Syria entered the war as part of an Arab League mandate on behalf of the Christian-dominated government. They always had Christian factions on their side including the Frangiehs most notably.