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27 Feb 2014, 9:10 am

Are women encouraged to enter traditionally male professions at this moment in time, because they are viewed as more compliant, and more likely to put up with things that men wouldn't?

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27 Feb 2014, 9:43 am

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Don't know much about Amanda Knox or the study of useless subjects, but I've seen discrimination against men in the area of mental health; the patient wasn't taken seriously at all. I felt bad for the guy.

I have found some female psychologists to be quite nasty to me on account of my possession of a penis, and others to be quite nice and helpful regardless of my appendage.

What if you found one that wanted to play with your appendage? :chin:

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27 Feb 2014, 10:00 am

AspieOtaku wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

Ann2011 wrote:

I have found some female psychologists to be quite nasty to me on account of my possession of a penis, and others to be quite nice and helpful regardless of my appendage.

What if you found one that wanted to play with your appendage? :chin:

Hasn't happened yet. That would be one way of making sure that her schedule was full. But, if word got out, then she would lose her license.

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27 Feb 2014, 10:00 am

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Are women encouraged to enter traditionally male professions at this moment in time, because they are viewed as more compliant, and more likely to put up with things that men wouldn't?

Its not about encouraging you, to do any certain job, but to encourage you to do, what fit your skills. So if you are interested in maths, sciences, and engineering, you simply should not care for what gender you have, but simply go for an education and jobs, that suits that skills you own. Just as a girl should not destroy her oppinion to go for a job she likes because of telling her "But that is with machines, and I am a girl, so I wont be able to do that.", should a boy not destroy his opinion to go for a job he likes because of telling him "But that is with social stuff and people/kids, and I am a boy, so I wont be able to do that."

That typical training days that are offered and promoted is not about: "You need to do that job by all means." but about simply "Come, take a look, and see and decide yourself, if you think that job fits you or not." and exist (at least around here) as well in typical woman jobs as kids education, so that more boys might dare to go for kindergarden, groundschool educators job, so that there is a better mix of educators for the kids as well.

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27 Feb 2014, 6:39 pm

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Suppose another disaster like The Titanic occurs again? Should the women get priority for the lifeboats, because their lives are more valuable? Or, should a completely gender-blind non-sexist 'every man for himself' ethic take hold?

regardless of what should or should not happen, the Titanic was pretty much the only sinking boat disaster on record where women were more likely to survive than men. 'Every man for himself' is the rule, and the Titanic was the exception.

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27 Feb 2014, 10:02 pm

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What? You've never heard of the HMS Birkenhead?

http://www.birkenhead.za.net/

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27 Feb 2014, 10:19 pm

yeah, actually I have:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... first.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... xAAGnnH38t
http://www.livescience.com/21951-women- ... -myth.html

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27 Feb 2014, 10:40 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

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ArrantPariah wrote:

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I have found some female psychologists to be quite nasty to me on account of my possession of a penis, and others to be quite nice and helpful regardless of my appendage.

What if you found one that wanted to play with your appendage? :chin:

Hasn't happened yet. That would be one way of making sure that her schedule was full. But, if word got out, then she would lose her license.

Or a Thai female psycologist wanting to play with your male appengage for medical studies?

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28 Feb 2014, 3:38 am

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I have found some female psychologists to be quite nasty to me on account of my possession of a penis, and others to be quite nice and helpful regardless of my appendage.

Arrant I can't believe you think women are going to be mean to you just because you got a penis. Women do not get angry just because of that.

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28 Feb 2014, 5:39 am

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From my understanding the Patriarchy is a system run by men to oppress women, as a result the feminist movement came to rise originally for good intent however some radicals have come to rise for other motifs of a complete reversal and not equality have falsly claim as opposed to most moderate feminists and encourage misandry yet denying the existence of it.

This time im not joking and have decided to discuss being serious regarding gender issues and inequality.Should I stick up for my own gender for once or would it be misogynistic to do so?

I think men have rights too.

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28 Feb 2014, 9:01 am

As important as feminism that champions women's rights and self determination is, and will always be, we should not ignore the fact that feminism is sometimes put to malevolent uses:

-It can be used to prevent solidarity between men and women.

-It can be used as part of a public relations campaign to gloss over many of the atrocities that occur against women in wartime. Both in our own barracks, and to the opposing side.

-It can be overzealous in championing women's access to goodies, and thus unfairly limit mens access to them. Advocacy groups can seldom be trusted to be satisfied with fair and equal treatment.

-Sweden

-It can be used to trick women into entering positions of authority just as the position is becoming toxic.

-It can be used to strengthen illegitimate actions and institutions, by giving them a friendly, non sexist veneer.

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28 Feb 2014, 1:01 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

Ann2011 wrote:

I have found some female psychologists to be quite nasty to me on account of my possession of a penis, and others to be quite nice and helpful regardless of my appendage.

Arrant I can't believe you think women are going to be mean to you just because you got a penis. Women do not get angry just because of that.

Oh yes they do.

Not all, of course. But one psychologist (a good female one) pointed out to me that about one-half of the people who enter the field of psychology do so because they are fighting their own demons. Which seems quite true.

If you go to a medical doctor for a medical problem, the doctor will take care of your medical problem in a very standard, professional way. One specialist will generally be as good as any other specialist.

If you go to a psychologist, you really don't know what you are going to get.

If you're a man, and you go to a Feminist psychologist who has a resentment against men, then the therapy will actually be for her benefit, as she spends 50 minutes bashing you, and then collects a fee for it. And, she'll shame you for missing a few weeks. Oh, I've been there. Very unpleasant.

It used to be that you had to get pre-authorization from your insurance company for mental-health visits, and then you were stuck with what you got. You couldn't easily switch to someone else. She had me by the balls, and she knew it.

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28 Feb 2014, 5:24 pm

Are you sure she wasn't responding to your 'horny troll' demeanor rather than to your penis?

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28 Feb 2014, 6:15 pm

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Are you sure she wasn't responding to your 'horny troll' demeanor rather than to your penis?

Absolutely certain.

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28 Feb 2014, 10:18 pm

Did you call her sweetie and ask her to make you a sandwich?

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01 Mar 2014, 12:43 am

LKL wrote:

Are you sure she wasn't responding to your 'horny troll' demeanor rather than to your penis?

Thats when hes not seeing a psychologist and talking to feminists on wrong planet!

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