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"Yes, i am acutely aware how revolting the Irish patriarchy is (the abortion debate). However it is part and parcel of the global phenomenon and crystallises my point about how these issues cannot be divorced.

i don't believe the rights of women, let alone anyone else begin and end with the ability to wield a weapon.

True equality only comes when everyone can expect a equal pay for the same task, with the freedom to not be objectified or assaulted when walking the street because of 'their choice of clothing' or some other ludicrous justification."

That's communism. In fact, it is a communist utopia, which is impossible. Now I know I speak to a madman.

Equal pay is socialist/communist. These economic structures fall, are failing, and discriminate themselves.
No one deserves equal pay, they deserve the pay they earn.

Thats not communism. Now I know I speak to someone who is ignorant about what communism is.

Many societies, not just contemporary ones but historically have satisfied the circumstances of which i speak but fall well outside the parameters of which you could describe as 'communist'.

It speaks volumes really, that you find a system where patriarchy maintained is the only acceptible sort of system, or would so dogmatically defend a state of affairs that marginalises people on the basis of gender.



I said equal pay for the SAME TASK. That is something wholly different. Apparently your reading abilities fail you.

Communist systems can't be operated in tandem with price based economics, however social heirarchies can be eradicated with the dismantlement of price systems.

It may have escaped your attention, but the existing capitalist system is also failing, and quite dramatically so.

Last edited by thomas81 on 12 Feb 2014, 5:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I could care less if the world was ruled by female dolphins!

I only want what I earn.

Your opinions and beliefs do not rule over all man-kind, neither do mine.

Women carry guns here in my state. Why? So they can kill rapists. Not so they can rape men, that should actually help
your little socialist utopia come about anyways.

I love women, but they don't need you, or I, to help them.
I believe they are strong enough to do so, without your help.
My mother has never complained about the patriarchy, nor has any woman I have ever met in person.
You're delusional.

Libertarianism, and the contempt of the collective is the philosophy of the few.

So tell me, who does the labour on libertarian island?

Your mother has the sanction to speak on behalf of all womendom?

She must be very proud.

Are you joking?

I don't know if your even serious, I am not a libertarian.

Ya know what let say you win.
I can't even take you seriously anymore.

You were the one who brought up ideology.

I stopped taking you seriously a few posts back when you started throwing out strawmen about 'communism' and 'madmen'.

Go to the library and expand your horizons.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McxB75FOFOw[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM89P9G3A8A[/youtube]

Heres more on male rape and sexual assault on men. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR-CxMBgVu8[/youtube] It happens it can happen although not as often, and according to thomas81 if he sees it happen he still wouldnt take it seriously, only if its a man raping a woman. I can see it now!



Male rape victim: Help! help this woman is raping me at gun point!

thomas81: I don't care! Let me read my newspaper you bloody w*ker!

Male rape victim: That woman just raped me and your not going to call the police?!

thomas81: Nope because I didn't see anything because only men can rape! Now bugger off!

Male rape victim: I was right in front of you pinned against the bloody tree across from the park bench your sitting on the woman had a gun pointed at my head, and you didnt see anything?

thomas81:Ok i did see it happen, do I bloody care? Of course not because it doesn't happen frequent enough to be taken seriously! Now go bugger off!

But there IS institutionalisation of the notion that men are permanently horny beasts who'll shag anything with tits and a pulse and who therefore must want it constantly from every woman. This leads to men who are raped not being taken seriously. It leads to cases where teenage children are molested by female teachers, and, instead of being taken seriously as victims of child abuse, people assume that they must have wanted it really.

Thank you!! ! Someone who gets it!

I have never in my life read or heard a story where a man is raped at gunpoint by a woman.

Heres one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlV3yEHUn9Q

That institution is sustained and humoured by male businessmen in order to sell sexually orientated media.

Yes, women are too involved in that industry but they are a drop in the ocean. The porno industry specifically, is dripping in testosterone in more ways than one.

They don't care who gets raped, sex sells.