Halloween costume PC rules: Good idea or[expletive removed]?
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This.
People who twist themselves into knots being offended over other people being offended by things cause my irony meter to explode.
Whining about whining is still whining.

I agree and wouldn't give a good goddamn about what they say except for the fact that gullible people listen and their view becomes a major factor in society. What enough of the professional victims deem as wrong will be excluded from polite society. It will become part of rules and regulations and it will be for no reason no matter what and those who ignore it, like normal people should do, will be treated like lepers.
It doesn't make sense and I want people to notice that before it f***s up everything and brainwashes people.
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It's another avenue for the cultural marxists to brainwash kids with unscientific neologisms.
I dread the day when that generation grows up and think that terms like "ableist", "sexist", "racist", "transphobic", "homophobic" etc have any root in rational discourse or are academically sound.
All universities have marxist influence now and it's horrifying to see logic give place to intellectual dishonesty.
You see the ultimate manifestation in this in that kids can't dress up as cowboys for Halloween because a cowboy might have done something bad to an indian or a black person some time in history and therefore, white people must publically self flaggelate for all eternity.
If there were to be any congruence, then you could find dirt on any character and you would be left with inanimate objects like refridgerators, thrash cans, toasters and computers.
You can always twist anything so that someone is offended. Rights trump feelings and humorless, obnoxious people can go eff themselves instead of being a constant buzzkill.
It's pretty bad over here too but my goodness, I'm glad I don't live in America. White guilt is not nearly as bad over here, though people are still easily shut up because they are afraid of being called a "racist".
Your best weapon against cultural marxists is to be unaffected by their anti-academic nonsense and neologisms. They expect you to recoil when being called an "ableist" or a "classist" or whatever. Just pretend they never said it and argue logically and watch them shut down.
Those people are humorless buzzkills. I'd pull my hair out spending a day with any of them, which is why I don't. I only hang around people where I can crack jokes, fart and have a good time without anybodys feelings going into haywire. I highly recommend it.
Pretty much. Businesses around here are not allowed to say Merry Christmas anymore as well, which is total BS.
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I remember going trick or treating by myself no parent in tow that was typical. Outside was no parent zone. The few kids whose parents stayed close got bullied for that.
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You use the words ret*ds which is considered offensive around here. But nobody objected because it was not aimed at autistics. Like I said earlier this PC stuff is complicated.
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Pretty much. Businesses around here are not allowed to say Merry Christmas anymore as well, which is total BS.
I don't understand how saying that hurts anyone. Saying it doesn't force someone to celebrate it nor does it mean the person is refusing to acknowledge other holidays. How is it wrong to SAY Merry Christmas when Christmas itself is a national holiday? That makes no sense, but then again the pantywaist PC police never make sense.
People who say Merry Christmas usually celebrate it themselves whether religiously or secularly and its a simple comment. Its the same as Happy Valentines, or Have a good 4th, or Happy Thanksgiving, Halloween, Easter or New Year. It isn't like they are saying "I hope you have a nice Christmas because its the day our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was born so he could die for your sins and if you don't celebrate it you are going to Hell as you should, you Heathen piece of garbage" nor does it imply that. Are we supposed to pretend that the store the muzzled cashier is working at is not having a Christmas sale and isn't playing Christmas music on the speaker and doesn't have a Santa there for the kids and half the people in line aren't buying gift wrap or tree stuff? Is it fine to have everything about Christmas except well wishing?
I'm pretty sure that if you see somebody in a yarmulke or a hijab you wont be wishing them merry Christmas but who does it hurt to be wished that? Who in the hell is offended by somebody wishing them a happy holiday of a religion or culture that isn't theirs? I would hardly be offended if somebody wished me a happy Yom Kippur, Ramadan, Bastille Day, Cinco de Mayo, Canada Day or the Queens Birthday. What six people out there are so entirely over sensitive that it will trigger their obviously mandatory PTSD when they are told Merry Christmas?
This is the kind of thing that is the very reason I b***h about PC horses**t. Its become IMPORTANT to say happy holidays now. People are surprised when they hear Merry Christmas. The reasoning behind it is what's important. If this started because people were saying that others feel left out when their holiday isn't mentioned then I would be fins with it. It would be happening to try to include more people in the holiday frenzy of cheer and good will. As it is, its being done to avoid being labeled not PC and to be called some sort of ist and to not be sued or repremanded at work. Its not so much being done out of fear of offending someone its being done out of fear of being gotten by the jackbooted PC thug SS stormtroopers
"They say its offensive so it must be" is way too common. Someone recently told me about using a phrase that they say is offensive (white trash) and a friend said not to. He asked how it was offensive and SHE COULDNT ANSWER but got madder because he asked. That's how it is a lot. When people tell you not to say or do something and refrain from doing it thselves because they are just told its offensive and then they tell you it offends them but don't know how or why, just that they are TOLD IT SHOULD then we have a problem. Especially when most people have never met someone who is actually offended by the thing.
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I get sick of the PC rubbish I think its the socialist left who have too much time on their hands that come up with this rubbish, By saying Happy Holidays instead of "Merry Christmas" and not having nativity scenes in schools because it might offend non-Christians.
Only today I heard there's a school here in Melbourne that told any Muslim kids that they could leave the room when our national Anthem Is being played.
A lot of angry people rang the radio station about it, some muslims did too so it was mostly the school's idea not them but they will get the blame for it.
Soon no one will be able to say anything for fear of upsetting someone else and we will all just be walking around like human robots.
I dread the day when that generation grows up and think that terms like "ableist", "sexist", "racist", "transphobic", "homophobic" etc have any root in rational discourse or are academically sound.
All universities have marxist influence now and it's horrifying to see logic give place to intellectual dishonesty.
You see the ultimate manifestation in this in that kids can't dress up as cowboys for Halloween because a cowboy might have done something bad to an indian or a black person some time in history and therefore, white people must publically self flaggelate for all eternity.
If there were to be any congruence, then you could find dirt on any character and you would be left with inanimate objects like refridgerators, thrash cans, toasters and computers.
You can always twist anything so that someone is offended. Rights trump feelings and humorless, obnoxious people can go eff themselves instead of being a constant buzzkill.
It's pretty bad over here too but my goodness, I'm glad I don't live in America. White guilt is not nearly as bad over here, though people are still easily shut up because they are afraid of being called a "racist".
Your best weapon against cultural marxists is to be unaffected by their anti-academic nonsense and neologisms. They expect you to recoil when being called an "ableist" or a "classist" or whatever. Just pretend they never said it and argue logically and watch them shut down.
Those people are humorless buzzkills. I'd pull my hair out spending a day with any of them, which is why I don't. I only hang around people where I can crack jokes, fart and have a good time without anybodys feelings going into haywire. I highly recommend it.
Because racism isn't real and never hurt anybody? And you're talking about intellectual dishonesty in the same breath?

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what it will eventually boil down to, is people en masse will soon self-sort with like people, and totally eschew those who are different. I believe this will apply to America as a whole which will split apart into small and contentiously competitive regions at war with one another. the human atavistic tendency is to regard the other and say "this world ain't big enough for the two of us, one of us gotta die."
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And in the case of who's going to die, it's always "you," and not "me."
yup, as most of the parties race to the bottom.
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I dread the day when that generation grows up and think that terms like "ableist", "sexist", "racist", "transphobic", "homophobic" etc have any root in rational discourse or are academically sound.
All universities have marxist influence now and it's horrifying to see logic give place to intellectual dishonesty.
You see the ultimate manifestation in this in that kids can't dress up as cowboys for Halloween because a cowboy might have done something bad to an indian or a black person some time in history and therefore, white people must publically self flaggelate for all eternity.
If there were to be any congruence, then you could find dirt on any character and you would be left with inanimate objects like refridgerators, thrash cans, toasters and computers.
You can always twist anything so that someone is offended. Rights trump feelings and humorless, obnoxious people can go eff themselves instead of being a constant buzzkill.
It's pretty bad over here too but my goodness, I'm glad I don't live in America. White guilt is not nearly as bad over here, though people are still easily shut up because they are afraid of being called a "racist".
Your best weapon against cultural marxists is to be unaffected by their anti-academic nonsense and neologisms. They expect you to recoil when being called an "ableist" or a "classist" or whatever. Just pretend they never said it and argue logically and watch them shut down.
Those people are humorless buzzkills. I'd pull my hair out spending a day with any of them, which is why I don't. I only hang around people where I can crack jokes, fart and have a good time without anybodys feelings going into haywire. I highly recommend it.
Because racism isn't real and never hurt anybody? And you're talking about intellectual dishonesty in the same breath?

Of course racism is real and it hurts many. The issue here is that people are labeling things racist that are not. They are saying that people are hurt by things when nobody is. Can you givee an example of how somebody gets hurt by some ten year old boys dressing up as a cowboy and am Indian and going trick or treating? Don't give me some " it can cause them to grow up thinking this or that" or "it sends a message to society that..." either. I want an example of how someone will be hurt. And not something rare like "if you happen to run across a Navajo who was beaten up by a ranch hand and he's lost touch with reality and doesn't understand Halloween nor ever seen am old Western" either. I want a real world example. Something that isn't one in a million.
The PC faction lives by attacking things that simply sound like they could be racist, sexist, homophobic, a list, etc. They don't need real world proof and they are willing to vilify anything if even only one person is upset over it. Also they trade in feelings rather than harm or damages. I'm not even talking about feelings that lead to a nervous breakdown or suicide attempts. I'm talking about someone who is rubbed the wrong way and it passes. They also try and connect every problem that the group has to whatever it is that they are whining about trying to ban. Like in this thread someone was trying to connect the fact that many lgbt teens attempt suicide to the fact that somebody might dress up as Jenner this year. That isn't even logic. Costumes have nothing to do with how some idiots are so horrible to lgtb teens. That needs to stop and thank god things are moving in the right direction but costumes have nothing to do with it, even though the poster thought it sounded weighty and convincing and actually related to the costume issue. Sounding like it makes sense doesn't make it make sense nor does sounding like it might be racist make it racist.
So, can you give me that example?
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Ive never heard of either of those. Where are they from anyway? Are they cartoon characters? I've seen people go for Halloween as famous people from other races and never seen anybody get offended.
However if the PC nutjobs are having a fit and calling racism about people dressing up as freaking cartoon characters then they are so far over the sane line that they can't even see it with the Hubble telescope!
Who is complaining to you about that? I hope you point out the insanity of it to them.
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Mocking trans people and making them the butt of jokes - including "gag" costumes - has everything to do with it.
"analysis of responses to the National Transgender Discrimination Survey (NTDS) shows that transgender respondents who experienced rejection by family and friends, discrimination, victimization, or violence have a higher risk of attempting suicide. 78 percent of survey respondents who suffered physical or sexual violence at school reported suicide attempts, as did 65 percent of respondents who experienced violence at work.
The study suggests that several minority stressors – negative experiences related to anti-transgender bias – may contribute to elevated prevalence of suicide attempts among transgender people, such as experiences of harassment, family rejection, housing instability, and discrimination in health care. Over half of those who experienced harassment or bullying in schools reported lifetime suicide attempts"
http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/r ... ng-adults/
So, go ahead and say that trans people are being whiny. Go ahead and say that bullying doesn't affect suicide and depression rates. Go ahead and say that gag or 'joke' costumes aren't bullying.
Say whatever you want that will let you sleep tonight. I've met enough trans kids & teens who've been bullied and who have either contemplated or attempted suicide because of that bullying to assure you that 'jokes' like the Caitlyn Jenner costume are a cruel form of bullying.
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