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22 Feb 2016, 7:40 pm

ANYONE HERE WHO HAS OBAMACARE:

I would like to know what your deductible amount is and how much you pay into the plan. I would also like to know where to find the plan that you are on. I have had experience with Obamacare and experience with employer healthcare plans. Anyone who is in favor of Obamacare should have no qualms about sharing this information if they are indeed in support of this type of health insurance. I have no problems telling what I pay into my plans and what my deductible is.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:43 pm

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Like I said, I can't stand Cruz--but I'd rather have HIM than Trump. Cruz caused our Government to shut down. I get scared when the Government shuts down.

KK, if you are scared of cruz the ooze shutting down the gov't again they why aren't you scared of him being the shut-downer-in-chief? :huh:

I gots to know.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:44 pm

I find Obamacare, in many cases, to be a poor compromise between the old system and universal health care. People's experiences are different. Some have benefitted from Obamacare; others have not.

We should have universal health care for things like cancer, ALS, diseases which are fatal if left untreated. I believe we have that for End Stage Renal Disease right now.

I never said I would vote for Cruz--I wouldn't. But I'd still rather have him than Trump.

Where does anybody get the idea that I would vote for Cruz?

By the way, this whole "birther" thing is nonsense. Cruz is a citizen, because he was born to an American citizen.

I would only vote for Cruz ONLY IF HE AND TRUMP, AND NOBODY ELSE, ARE RUNNING.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:45 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:

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Not so much you,but kraichgauer and others.

When did I ever threaten to hurt you, or anyone, for that matter?!?!?!
As for your earlier posts:
Conservatives are the ones who often could care less about the less fortunate, and who often hate anyone different.
And the chosen? Who might that be?
As for veterans - - both parties in fact, in the words of Ricky Ricardo, "have a lot of 'splaining to do," in treatment of veterans. But again, it's people just like you, who legitimately need the social safety net, who conservatives call eaters and takers. Do you seriously want to align yourself to people who despise you just because they filled your head with paranoia that your guns are going to be taken from you? By the way, they're not.

Never said you'd did, though nights still young.

The left doesn't give one rats ass about me and other less fortunate if they aren't liberals. And even liberal less fortunate so they could care less. They care about votes and cooperate bribes. Money money money.

Omg you are so biased and refused to listen to anything I say. It's the left coming out and saying "we want to ban all guns" that scares gun owners!! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Go tell you party to back the f**k off s out guns, never ever ever again mention gun bans, gun tell, common sense gun control or any other related wording they use and through their eleitist anti gun agenda in the trash and maybe then we can talk about other stuff.

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this all reminds me of the story of the union man, the worker and the CEO who walk into a room with a table that has a plate of cookies on it- the CEO gobbles all but one of the cookies, then whispers to the worker, "psst, watch out for that union man, he wants a part of your cookie."

When the right tells the story, the CEO is the hero, and the working man needs saving from the union man.

Except the left works for the same CEO. Obama and the left have helped out tons of rich billionaires screw over America. Given ton of bail outs and forgiven tons of companies debt all why screwing over the little guy. Do you think Bloomberg and his billionaire friends give a rats ass about any of us lower peasants who live in the mud. Nope if they did they'd be spending their money to help people Bloomberg alone could get every homeless person off the street into homes and provide them with liver able incomes and still be filthy rich. Instead they stockpile their wealth in banks and buy fancy expensive boats the size of small nations which they almost never even use. So don't act like your side is so wonderful and pretty of the peasants,p. Neither party is they both work for the rich 1% and only goal is to make themselves richer. Congress gave themselves pay raises while millions live in the street and soldiers are paid crsp. Why does a senator deserve 200,000 a year on top of their millions of cooperate payoffs,

They should make a thousand s month and have to work other jobs. They serve at our pleasure not to make tons of money. It's a duty not a job.

Well then, if you're waiting for me to threaten you or anyone else, you'll be waiting for the rest of your life at your computer, because I don't issue threats.
And sure, both parties have made the filthy rich even richer, but the right is by far the worse offender, because they've been the ones allowing big business to desert America, and allowed them to slash wages and benefits.
And do you seriously believe the right cares about you more than the left? Do you honestly believe the right cares about you at all?
Incidentally, none of those social programs you and others depend on would even exist if it weren't for the left.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:47 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I haven't been keeping up on the birther thing, but as I understand it, you have to be born in the United States to be an American Citizen. If he was born in Canada, he's a Canadian.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:48 pm

nurse, this is the plan-
https://www1.ghc.org/static/individual- ... bronze.pdf
costs me $35 per month. that may not sound like much to you but I can barely afford it, I don't have cable or high-speed internet.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:49 pm

Kraitchgauer is not a guy who would threaten anyone. He's an okay guy.

He's the liberal side of the arguments. Raptor's the conservative side. I bet they would be great friends should they meet. I don't think they dislike each other. I just think each wants to get the upper hand on the other.

Cruz is American. He was born to an American citizen mother.

You don't have to be born on American soil to be a citizen.

If Obama was born in Kenya, he'd still be an American citizen--because his mother was an American citizen. Ironically, he would also have been a British subject because his father was Kenyan, and Kenya was a British protectorate in 1961, when Obama was born.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:50 pm

auntblabby wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

Like I said, I can't stand Cruz--but I'd rather have HIM than Trump. Cruz caused our Government to shut down. I get scared when the Government shuts down.

KK, if you are scared of cruz the ooze shutting down the gov't again they why aren't you scared of him being the shut-downer-in-chief? :huh:

I gots to know.

What's the big woopty-doo with the government shutting down? It's shut down before and the country took care of itself - probably better. :roll:

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22 Feb 2016, 7:50 pm

auntblabby wrote:

most people opposing universal care either don't know or care just how generally unaffordable private healthcare/insurance is [outside of the gov't exchanges], as they generally are either already wealthy or well-covered by an rich employer-provided Cadillac plan that covers everything. IOW "I got mine, to hell with you!" a basic plan for somebody my age [with pre-existing conditions] would cost nearly a thou per month. that is equivalent to a full-time after-tax minimum wage all by itself!

Another major reason why the right opposes any sort of universal healthcare - or even something as modest as Obamacare - is because they think the poor are getting a free ride at the expense of the goddamn tax payers. They're more happier to see the uninsured die than have to pay a pittance to help someone else.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:51 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

at least until it happens to them.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:53 pm

nurseangela wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

Like I said, I can't stand Cruz--but I'd rather have HIM than Trump. Cruz caused our Government to shut down. I get scared when the Government shuts down.

KK, if you are scared of cruz the ooze shutting down the gov't again they why aren't you scared of him being the shut-downer-in-chief? :huh:

I gots to know.

What's the big woopty-doo with the government shutting down? It's shut down before and the country took care of itself - probably better. :roll:

it wasn't YOUR paycheck that got suspended, but it sure was mine when I was a civil servant.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:54 pm

Raptor wrote:

Fugu wrote:

Raptor wrote:

So what am I, a white noise poster, a troll, or a concern troll?

all 3 apply, why don't you pick one

Well, we do need a new full time PPR troll. We had one before but he seems to have disappeared.
Do I hear any nominations??

Why I nominate you, Mr. R. Your kind of trolling gives trolls a good name. :wink:

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22 Feb 2016, 7:54 pm

It doesn't make sense to be knee-jerk opposed to Trump, you are letting the bias corporate owned media shape your opinion. Trump is a populist, a nationalist, but also someone that has made deals his entire life. Half the presidency is an act, it's political theater and Trump is a master at it. I think Trump will be an amazing diplomatic president because he is the type of guy who he thinks if he can get someone in a room with them they can work something out. Trump is the ONLY candidate that isn't pledging to restart the Cold War, he is the real PEACE candidate because everyone else wants to get into pissing match with Russians when we should be allies and work together. We have so much in common, we have a ton of shared problems that we can take care of together, we're better together than apart. Trump is a nationalist, he is not a warmonger or somebody that wants to send our kids to fight and die with for the interests of Big Oil and the MIC. Trump looks at war as not some BS humanitarian mission, he looks at what it is and what it has always been so if we're going to fight a war then we're going to win it and we're going to make it worth the blood and treasure we have to sacrifice for it. Someone like this does not wantonly lead the country into war, I don't believe it.

Political correctness has handcuffed us from facing the real issues that are facing our country, it's about time that changes. **** politicians!

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22 Feb 2016, 7:55 pm

auntblabby wrote:

nurseangela wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

Like I said, I can't stand Cruz--but I'd rather have HIM than Trump. Cruz caused our Government to shut down. I get scared when the Government shuts down.

KK, if you are scared of cruz the ooze shutting down the gov't again they why aren't you scared of him being the shut-downer-in-chief? :huh:

I gots to know.

What's the big woopty-doo with the government shutting down? It's shut down before and the country took care of itself - probably better. :roll:

it wasn't YOUR paycheck that got suspended, but it sure was mine when I was a civil servant.

There's your problem, you said it yourself - you are a civil SERVANT. Gotta take the bad with the good.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:56 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Thank you; you're vote of confidence is much appreciated.

As for Raptor - he can pm me anytime he likes. If he's ever in Spokane, I'll buy him a beer.
Incidentally, he can look me up under my real name, William Link.

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22 Feb 2016, 7:57 pm

in terms of the GOPers he [The Rump] is IMHO the least evil. and Kraich, if you don't mind asking, where did you get the Kraichgauer name?

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