Page 6 of 8 [ 114 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next

friedmacguffins
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,539

16 Sep 2016, 12:25 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
Researchers have claimed that women on birth control make riskier choices, in terms of a mate.

Does this make any of Milo's claims factually accurate, whether or not they were shtick, said in a spirit of meanness.

Are they living up to the misogyny, even if that is casual.

Hopper wrote:
Does it matter?


Yes, because I have standards, as a man. Under some conditions, I may wish not to participate.

Milo has accurately hit upon some of these conditions, and some are indeed caused by birth control.

I remember "Married With Children," portraying hetero marriage, in a disparaging light. It was directed by a lesbian, and starred a homosexual, who died of AIDS. The alt right is being forced to use people like these, as an advocate, probably because their voices have more value in a heterophobic society, like the Uncle Toms used to counter BLM radicals.

But, my wishes count for something. What if I prefer not to use an interpreter.

It used to be called sexist and racist, when women and slaves were not supposed to be unattended, in public. Now, unattended males are considered risky. What if I don't want an advocate.

Milo is right, some times, but I am only discussing it, academically, as though he's a poseur -- not a moral authority.

Let's see the gay and feminist community ask me what I think, personally, and honor my boundaries, if they're so inclusive.

Gavin has recently made good points, on the Jones show about how rules oriented and stifling you are. In real life, mice play when the cat's away. People rebel against your restrictive chickenshit, at the first opportunity, with all the joy of a prisonbreak.

You used to say that patriarchy created disgruntled, gay people. Now, unrestained progressives have created reactionary monsters.



Hopper
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,920
Location: The outskirts

16 Sep 2016, 1:33 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
friedmacguffins wrote:
Researchers have claimed that women on birth control make riskier choices, in terms of a mate.

Does this make any of Milo's claims factually accurate, whether or not they were shtick, said in a spirit of meanness.

Are they living up to the misogyny, even if that is casual.

Hopper wrote:
Does it matter?


Yes, because I have standards, as a man. Under some conditions, I may wish not to participate.


Could you expand on this? I can guess what you're saying, but I like to be clear.

Quote:
Milo has accurately hit upon some of these conditions, and some are indeed caused by birth control.


And what if they are? It's a bit like a Klan member advising black people 'you know, sometimes, when you commit acts of theft and violence, people don't like it. It's not a good public image. Don't you worry you're living up to the racist arguments?'. It's not even disingenuous. Again, it's pathological.

Quote:
I remember "Married With Children," portraying hetero marriage, in a disparaging light. It was directed by a lesbian, and starred a homosexual, who died of AIDS. The alt right is being forced to use people like these, as an advocate, probably because their voices have more value in a heterophobic society, like the Uncle Toms used to counter BLM radicals.


Uh huh.
Quote:
But, my wishes count for something. What if I prefer not to use an interpreter.

It used to be called sexist and racist, when women and slaves were not supposed to be unattended, in public. Now, unattended males are considered risky. What if I don't want an advocate.


I don't know. What if you don't?

Quote:
Milo is right, some times, but I am only discussing it, academically, as though he's a poseur -- not a moral authority.


Much as I enjoy arguing the toss, I would be reluctant to use my intelligence and reason to express something which could give succour (or even an argument) to Milo and co.

Quote:
Let's see the gay and feminist community ask me what I think, personally, and honor my boundaries, if they're so inclusive.

Gavin has recently made good points, on the Jones show about how rules oriented and stifling you are. In real life, mice play when the cat's away. People rebel against your restrictive chickenshit, at the first opportunity, with all the joy of a prisonbreak.

You used to say that patriarchy created disgruntled, gay people. Now, unrestained progressives have created reactionary monsters.


This has pretty much lost me. It reads somewhat like a quote from somewhere - is it? I don't know who Gavin is, or what the Jones show is, nor do I know who the 'you' you are addressing is.


_________________
Of course, it's probably quite a bit more complicated than that.

You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.


friedmacguffins
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,539

16 Sep 2016, 1:56 pm

Quote:
It's a bit like a Klan member advising black people 'you know, sometimes, when you commit acts of theft and violence, people don't like it. It's not a good public image.


When blacks are open and notorious hoodlums, it gives the Klan moral highground. As a Jew, I would tell blacks not to do that.

I apply the same logic to contentious women. I am guilty as charged. That is the kind of reasoning I am using.

At least, be civilized in a platonic sort-of way, and the alarmists will have nothing to talk about.

Quote:
This has pretty much lost me. It reads somewhat like a quote from somewhere - is it? I don't know who Gavin is, or what the Jones show is, nor do I know who the 'you' you are addressing is.


Anyone, who wants to meet me halfway is fully capable of Googling that. We're in public. It's addressed to anyone. As I have repeatedly said, around here, short of harming others or acts of property damage, it's a free marketplace of ideas. Noone is being made to agree or disagree with me.

This isn't even difficult reading. Just open another browsers window. It's not that hard. :roll:



Hopper
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,920
Location: The outskirts

16 Sep 2016, 3:58 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
Quote:
It's a bit like a Klan member advising black people 'you know, sometimes, when you commit acts of theft and violence, people don't like it. It's not a good public image.


When blacks are open and notorious hoodlums, it gives the Klan moral highground. As a Jew, I would tell blacks not to do that.


I'm kind of surprised. The Klan can never have the moral high ground, because they're pathologically racist. Frankly, my truculent perversity would come into play, and I'd encourage them to hoodlum good and hard, because f**k the Klan.

Quote:
I apply the same logic to contentious women. I am guilty as charged. That is the kind of reasoning I am using.


Why do you consider a contentious woman to be so?

And as far as I can see, your 'reasoning' is to give quarter to people who have no good claim for such generosity.

Quote:
At least, be civilized in a platonic sort-of way, and the alarmists will have nothing to talk about.


Thing is, they will. The hatred and anger does not come from the more 'outrageous' actions. It is already there, and being 'civil' will do nothing to get rid of it.

There's no dialogue to be had between Milo and co and feminists. No need to pretend so, or to think that if only things were 'civilised', it might get somewhere.

Quote:
Quote:
This has pretty much lost me. It reads somewhat like a quote from somewhere - is it? I don't know who Gavin is, or what the Jones show is, nor do I know who the 'you' you are addressing is.


Anyone, who wants to meet me halfway is fully capable of Googling that. We're in public. It's addressed to anyone. As I have repeatedly said, around here, short of harming others or acts of property damage, it's a free marketplace of ideas. Noone is being made to agree or disagree with me.

This isn't even difficult reading. Just open another browsers window. It's not that hard. :roll:


Well, I Googled and I got nothing. If it is a quote, and its being a quote is important, and if being 'civilised in a platonic sort of way' is part of your approach to discourse, you might go so far - if you will, half way - as to provide a citation or link.

As it is, whoever said it, I think it's bollocks.


_________________
Of course, it's probably quite a bit more complicated than that.

You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.


Dox47
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,670
Location: Seattle-ish

17 Sep 2016, 1:00 am

Hopper wrote:
Frankly, my truculent perversity would come into play, and I'd encourage them to hoodlum good and hard, because f**k the Klan.


Wouldn't that kind of drive more people to the Klan? Almost as if that was what they wanted you to do...


_________________
Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer.

- Rick Sanchez


Dox47
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,670
Location: Seattle-ish

17 Sep 2016, 1:07 am

Hopper wrote:
Now he talks and writes shite for money, paid to by people who like his shite because they know idiots will queue up to pay (or click the clickbait) to hear him talk shite about people they're scared of, barking in approval like lobotomised seals


Much like early Howard Stern, I think the majority of Milo's audience is actually his haters, he's the internet equivalent of a shock jock, and he's only relevant because he succeeds in generating outrage.


_________________
Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer.

- Rick Sanchez


adifferentname
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Jan 2008
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,885

17 Sep 2016, 2:28 am

AspE wrote:
It's condescending


And derisive, you forgot to parrot that part.

Quote:
and it treats women as sexual objects.


By the standard you're applying, Milo treats himself like a sexual object. It's not uncommon for gay men to be overly fixated on sex and sexuality, at least from a conversational point of view.

Quote:
It's also clueless, since he's saying that using birth control, a pretty good sign one is sexually active, leads to women missing out on "man meat" when they gain weight and become unattractive.


Are you suggesting that there aren't women for whom that might resonate? Because that's simply not the case.

Quote:
Like they need BS sex advice from a gay idiot.


By all accounts, if you're looking for advice on how to bed guys, you could do a lot worse than ask Milo.



XFilesGeek
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Jul 2010
Age: 43
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 6,031
Location: The Oort Cloud

17 Sep 2016, 7:25 am

No, I'm not a fan of Milo because I'm not a fan of attention-wh_res.


_________________
"If we fail to anticipate the unforeseen or expect the unexpected in a universe of infinite possibilities, we may find ourselves at the mercy of anyone or anything that cannot be programmed, categorized or easily referenced."

-XFG (no longer a moderator)


Biscuitman
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2013
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,674
Location: Dunking jammy dodgers

17 Sep 2016, 1:13 pm

Never heard of this guy until 2 weeks ago. I heard him talking and couldn't believe how much someone could be fueled by negativity and hatred.



friedmacguffins
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,539

18 Sep 2016, 1:22 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
I have standards, as a man. Under some conditions, I may wish not to participate.

Hopper wrote:
Could you expand on this? I can guess what you're saying, but I like to be clear.


My standards for women? :twisted:

The reason I bring this up, is because men are objectified. Men are considered expendable resources, to be consumed, as though men have no sayso.

Didn't feminism used to say that such a situation was immoral?

friedmacguffins wrote:
What if I don't want an advocate.

Hopper wrote:
I don't know. What if you don't?


Then, women and feminists regard me as a potential rapist, much in the same respect that unattended blacks used to be considered criminals, and unattended women used to be considered vampish.

Didn't leftists used to say that such a situation was immoral?

Hopper wrote:
It reads somewhat like a quote from somewhere - is it?


No. :) Perhaps, I am quotable.

Hopper wrote:
I don't know who Gavin is, or what the Jones show is

They are popular, alt-right commentators, who will come up in any search engine, particularly discussing gender issues.

youtube -> jones gavin show feminism :|

mgtow.com and affiliates discuss double standards, in text and visual media.

(Thoroughly edited myself for horrid typing.)



Darmok
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,030
Location: New England

04 Feb 2017, 7:09 pm

Here's a good interview with Milo -- his first since the Leftist rioting that forced his evacuation from Berkeley. The shameless fake reporting by the media is called out repeatedly by both Milo and the interviewer.

And if you ever wanted to know what a violent leftist riot looks like, the first minute or so will show you.


_________________
 
There Are Four Lights!


Darmok
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Dec 2015
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,030
Location: New England

04 Feb 2017, 9:08 pm

LOL! Sales of Milo's new book are up 12,000%, and it is now Amazon's #1 bestseller, coming in ahead of that other famous attack on Leftism, "1984":

Image


_________________
 
There Are Four Lights!


BettaPonic
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 2 Jan 2017
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Posts: 918
Location: NOVA

04 Feb 2017, 10:44 pm

I don't agree with everything Milo says, but he is fighting the good fight.



Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,997
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

04 Feb 2017, 11:17 pm

Quote:
Anyone Else A Fan Of Milo Yiannopoulos?

Not a fan per-say, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend.


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


Dox47
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Jan 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,670
Location: Seattle-ish

05 Feb 2017, 1:22 am

He's going up in my esteem, for his longevity if for nothing else, as I really thought he was a one trick pony when he rode GamerGate to notoriety. I do also think he's performing a valuable service in exposing the regressive elements of leftist academia, in a way that's difficult for anyone to deny.


_________________
Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer.

- Rick Sanchez


marshall
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 10,752
Location: Turkey

05 Feb 2017, 4:50 am

Darmok wrote:
LOL! Sales of Milo's new book are up 12,000%, and it is now Amazon's #1 bestseller, coming in ahead of that other famous attack on Leftism, "1984":

Ummmm. George Orwell was a socialist.