04 Dec 2016, 12:40 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox says he's not a conservative, so... HAH!! ! !
Tell me something I don't know. Quote:
And what you said about half the people in need not deserving help proves my point about "certain" conservatives.
I'd be happy to be one of those "certain" conservatives in your book.
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Trying to explain myself is not backpedaling.
It is what it is...
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Now, why don't you try to squeeze back into that Nazi uniform your dad used to spank you for dressing up in as a kid (No, I didn't forget about the WWII photo from your previous post).
Don't need to wear that old one I have a new and better one for next year and beyond. President elect Donald Trump has offered me the office of Reichsprotektor of Washington and Oregon and I have accepted.
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04 Dec 2016, 12:52 am
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox says he's not a conservative, so... HAH!! ! !
Tell me something I don't know. Quote:
And what you said about half the people in need not deserving help proves my point about "certain" conservatives.
I'd be happy to be one of those "certain" conservatives in your book.
It is what it is...
I'd be happy to be one of those "certain" conservatives in your book.
Quote:
Trying to explain myself is not backpedaling.
It is what it is...
Quote:
Now, why don't you try to squeeze back into that Nazi uniform your dad used to spank you for dressing up in as a kid (No, I didn't forget about the WWII photo from your previous post).
Don't need to wear that old one I have a new and better one for next year and beyond. President elect Donald Trump has offered me the office of Reichsprotektor of Washington and Oregon and I have accepted.
Just remember, the guy who held that title for Czechoslovakia, Reinhard Heydrich, was severely injured after a failed assassination attempt by Allied sponsored resistance fighters. When it was found that part of the car seat he was in during the attack had been lodged into his abdomen, it was too late, and he died of infection. Might want to consider that before taking the job.
04 Dec 2016, 12:56 am
04 Dec 2016, 1:09 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox says he's not a conservative, so... HAH!! ! !
Tell me something I don't know. Quote:
And what you said about half the people in need not deserving help proves my point about "certain" conservatives.
I'd be happy to be one of those "certain" conservatives in your book.
It is what it is...
I'd be happy to be one of those "certain" conservatives in your book.
Quote:
Trying to explain myself is not backpedaling.
It is what it is...
Quote:
Now, why don't you try to squeeze back into that Nazi uniform your dad used to spank you for dressing up in as a kid (No, I didn't forget about the WWII photo from your previous post).
Don't need to wear that old one I have a new and better one for next year and beyond. President elect Donald Trump has offered me the office of Reichsprotektor of Washington and Oregon and I have accepted.
Just remember, the guy who held that title for Czechoslovakia, Reinhard Heydrich, was severely injured after a failed assassination attempt by Allied sponsored resistance fighters. When it was found that part of the car seat he was in during the attack had been lodged into his abdomen, it was too late, and he died of infection. Might want to consider that before taking the job.
Just remember that as a reprisal the Czech village of Lidice (sp) where all the men and older boys were shot and the women and older girls shipped off to Ravensbruck. I could put that into a more meaningful perspective for you but to do that would be borderline if not outright trolling so I won't.
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04 Dec 2016, 1:16 am
Kraichgauer
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04 Dec 2016, 1:20 am
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Dox says he's not a conservative, so... HAH!! ! !
Tell me something I don't know. Quote:
And what you said about half the people in need not deserving help proves my point about "certain" conservatives.
I'd be happy to be one of those "certain" conservatives in your book.
It is what it is...
I'd be happy to be one of those "certain" conservatives in your book.
Quote:
Trying to explain myself is not backpedaling.
It is what it is...
Quote:
Now, why don't you try to squeeze back into that Nazi uniform your dad used to spank you for dressing up in as a kid (No, I didn't forget about the WWII photo from your previous post).
Don't need to wear that old one I have a new and better one for next year and beyond. President elect Donald Trump has offered me the office of Reichsprotektor of Washington and Oregon and I have accepted.
Just remember, the guy who held that title for Czechoslovakia, Reinhard Heydrich, was severely injured after a failed assassination attempt by Allied sponsored resistance fighters. When it was found that part of the car seat he was in during the attack had been lodged into his abdomen, it was too late, and he died of infection. Might want to consider that before taking the job.
Just remember that as a reprisal the Czech village of Lidice (sp) where all the men and older boys were shot and the women and older girls shipped off to Ravensbruck. I could put that into a more meaningful perspective for you but to do that would be borderline if not outright trolling so I won't.
Just the same, we would die in satisfaction that we got you.
04 Dec 2016, 1:38 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
- Just because old Ben said it doesn't mean it's always of much use.
But he was right about this.
My ancestors got off the boat poor and without any nanny state handouts but managed just fine as did many others.
Yes, but the 18th, 19th, and early 20th century poor lived literally in hunger, worked long hours at the most dangerous jobs, had no social respect, and didn't live particularly long. When those poor workers tried to organize, they found their lives under threat by gun bearing thugs hired by employers, or were used as a bargaining chip, then betrayed by the skilled workers unions. So much for trying to reach for prosperity. Then there were blacks and Chinese, and other racial minorities who were kept down by force of law. America was never the paradise for all those who reached for the brass ring.
My family on my dad's side, after getting off the boat and heading west, had been both farmers, and frontier labor with affiliation to the radical IWW.
Yeah right; my family actually perished from famine in the early 20th century here which means I'm not really here.
Next...
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04 Dec 2016, 1:51 am
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
- Just because old Ben said it doesn't mean it's always of much use.
But he was right about this.
My ancestors got off the boat poor and without any nanny state handouts but managed just fine as did many others.
Yes, but the 18th, 19th, and early 20th century poor lived literally in hunger, worked long hours at the most dangerous jobs, had no social respect, and didn't live particularly long. When those poor workers tried to organize, they found their lives under threat by gun bearing thugs hired by employers, or were used as a bargaining chip, then betrayed by the skilled workers unions. So much for trying to reach for prosperity. Then there were blacks and Chinese, and other racial minorities who were kept down by force of law. America was never the paradise for all those who reached for the brass ring.
My family on my dad's side, after getting off the boat and heading west, had been both farmers, and frontier labor with affiliation to the radical IWW.
Yeah right; my family actually perished from famine in the early 20th century here which means I'm not really here.
Next...
Striking union members were often fired on and killed by hired gunmen working for corporations as late as the nineteen-teens. Plenty of poor farmers fleeing from the dust bowl in Oklahoma, Arkansas, and elsewhere never made it alive to start over in California and the Pacific Northwest. Before the New Deal relief, plenty of people left without work, or couldn't keep up their farms, were left destitute, and with that, faced hunger, untreated illness, illness brought on by stress from anxiety, and so forth.
Your dismissive attitude toward my previous post has earned you
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04 Dec 2016, 3:14 am
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
- Just because old Ben said it doesn't mean it's always of much use.
But he was right about this.
My ancestors got off the boat poor and without any nanny state handouts but managed just fine as did many others.
Yes, but the 18th, 19th, and early 20th century poor lived literally in hunger, worked long hours at the most dangerous jobs, had no social respect, and didn't live particularly long. When those poor workers tried to organize, they found their lives under threat by gun bearing thugs hired by employers, or were used as a bargaining chip, then betrayed by the skilled workers unions. So much for trying to reach for prosperity. Then there were blacks and Chinese, and other racial minorities who were kept down by force of law. America was never the paradise for all those who reached for the brass ring.
My family on my dad's side, after getting off the boat and heading west, had been both farmers, and frontier labor with affiliation to the radical IWW.
Yeah right; my family actually perished from famine in the early 20th century here which means I'm not really here.
Next...
Striking union members were often fired on and killed by hired gunmen working for corporations as late as the nineteen-teens. Plenty of poor farmers fleeing from the dust bowl in Oklahoma, Arkansas, and elsewhere never made it alive to start over in California and the Pacific Northwest. Before the New Deal relief, plenty of people left without work, or couldn't keep up their farms, were left destitute, and with that, faced hunger, untreated illness, illness brought on by stress from anxiety, and so forth.
Your dismissive attitude toward my previous post has earned you
.Dismissive? All you ever do is read and regurgitate from the party handbook. What's not to dismiss?
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04 Dec 2016, 4:24 am
LoveNotHate wrote:
marshall wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I don't think conservatives are inherently racist fascists, but are motivated by their hatred and contempt of the poor.
Bill, one of these days you're going to have to realize that you have no idea what motivates conservatives, and most of the trouble you get yourself into on here comes directly from the delusion that you do.
Maybe they aren't motivated by outright contempt, but it isn't really a stretch to say many lack empathy for people less fortunate than themselves.
Ben Franklin sums up the conservative perspective ....
Benjamin Franklin was an elitist SOB. This is just a BS excuse to justify not giving a s**t. Capitalism works through competition. There are a set number of "poor" by design. If everyone could climb out of poverty who would be doing the minimum wage jobs? Why not eliminate poverty by paying all people a wage they can actually live on comfortably?
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