Good Genes: An Argument for Eugenics

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He mentioned Hitler quite clearly as the boogeyman and then went on to suggest, as I reread his OP, from the second sentence onward to suggest that a real societal issue was getting obscured by a lacuna (in this case boogeyman) of history. By the second sentence he was suggesting that we run from it because we think of Hitler - ie. genocide of adult humans.



How exactly did Androbot find his way to WP if he wasn't aware of that?

The problem is the NT social and economic world is such a trainwreck of slop that they have to be that cruel to each other to keep one another in line. The challenge, in my mind at least, is they need a clear threshold at which point to step back and put people in a different loop. I really think, for example, with those who are able-bodied and minded who have disabilities but can't hold a job based on the heat of the competition or political intrigue; they should be guided to charitable services and receive a pension as a sort of public aid worker whether it's beautifying public parks, working at food banks or homeless shelters, or finding the ways in which they can help backfill all of the gaps that society has left behind. Similarly there should be academic level work as well like translating books, authorship programs, ie. taking these people who can't make it by raw prowess in the normal loop of things and finding ways to utilize their talents and abilities.

I think of this similarly both for the disabled and the permanently single. Really, in one sense, they're in a similar boat of needing a purpose and the main societal prescription, ie. have kids and marry, is either inappropriate or barred to them for particular reasons. In the middle ages we had an outlet particularly for the brainy and single - ie. monasteries, Jesuit/Dominican/Benedictine institutions, etc.. and I think we need now at least a secular equivalent to help people feel useful, feel like their contributing to the world, be properly appreciated for that contribution, etc. but have actual enfranchisement rather than "Meh - you aren't needed. Go play video games in your parents basement or LARP till you die". I get that we deeply distrust our religious past but to not at least bring secular analogues that fill the same functions almost seems like the whole of western culture is suicidal and wants to just give up, let things descend into madness, and have a dictator of one type or another do the thinking for it. We seem to be working toward fracturing society so much you'd swear we were trying to deliberately.

I'm some random girl.
Thank you for actually reading what I wrote.

I think that if we continue to produce people who can't function in the established system then a guaranteed income is necessary.


I am trying to validate myself by becoming employed. Children are not going to happen.

Apologies. I've seen something recently, or at least it seems like I have, where a lot of posters I've known to be guys flipped their gender to female. I didn't know if you were one of them or not - might have been that your screen name threw me all this time and you might not have identified previously.

Who is to judge which life is worthy of life, and which life is unworthy of life?

mebbe the self in regards to the self?

Really, that's interesting. I wonder why they would do that. Maybe some experiment?


Everyone. The trick is to come to an agreement.

A lot of people were having their age changed to 45 by the site and things like that - forum glitch I would have guessed.

I don't think the world will ever come to an agreement on this one. The world will always be split in half on this opinion. I feel that everybody who's conceived should have the chance to experience the wonders of life and not what many people think are the perfect specimens of the unborn.

The wonders are overrated.

You seem to have a pessimistic outlook on life. The wonders are overrated to You! Either because you have not experienced them in a long time or are unwilling to do so.

I do not wish to succumb to the satisfaction of the defeated one, resignation. I do not wish to be a sacrifice to the "overmen" either. That does not concern me.

The ubermensch?
Why would you be?
Like it or not, some people do better in this world than others. And the world's only getting worse.

I have to agree with Ann. Life is mainly one big bucket of poo, with most people deliberately brainwashed so that not only do they not dare to say that the emperor has no clothes, they truly see clothes where there are none. There are no "wonders" of life. Life is one big endurance test, not a wonderful "experience".

If some people are defective, why shouldn't they be given the option of getting off spaceship earth so that the resources they consume may be put to better use?

As for another poster, yes if given the chance to die peacefully I would take it. The main problem is, suicide is very difficult due to the innate biological drive to survive which is not even conscious. This is why murder is so much easier to succeed at than suicide.

If you try to kill yourself, even if you succeed you will most likely go through a real nasty period where your body fights to live. Pills can take several weeks to destroy your liver. Even a gunshot to the head doesn't work right away, you usually take 12 hours or so to die.

The gas chambers were another really awful way to die, chosen for their ability to kill large numbers of people quickly, and Zyklon B chosen for its 100% fatality rate. The gassed writhed in agony as their bodies tried to fight the gas. It was similar to drowning, apparently.

So, I'm stuck in a position where two idiots had a sick kid, and now the kid is in his 40s and unable to contribute to society, just sucking up resources, and he can't override his innate genetic survival instinct to resolve the situation. It sucks.

Have you considered how different this world might be without the "undesirable" genes impact on history?

There would be more respect for people with disabilities.

I think it should be up to the parents to decide.