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shortfatbalduglyman
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25 Dec 2018, 11:10 pm

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Why shouldn't people in jail be allowed suicide?

Some defendants were wrongfully convicted

Taxpayers pay for jails



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26 Dec 2018, 1:23 am

It's for the same reason helmets and seat belts are mandatory by law. We, as tax payers, pay for your medical bills so if you try and don't succeed, I have to pay for your hospital bills out of my tax dollars. Therefore I want to see some sort of punishment for wasting my money.

Also, after you off yourself, someone else has the job of cleaning up your disgusting, bloated, rotting human remains. Can you imagine that job? You thought your life was bad enough to warrant killing yourself, imagine having to clean up someone else's dead body, that would be a horrifying. Someone has to pay that person to clean that up so once again, more tax dollars.



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26 Dec 2018, 1:36 am

The only reason suicide is illegal in prison is because the duty of the prison guards is to ensure that the prisoner serves out his full sentence for whatever crimes he commited. Life in prison means they have to serve an actual lifetime until they die a natural death or get killed. Death penalty means they have to be executed, they can't cheat out of it by killing themselves on their terms before the scheduled execution.

Maybe some prison workers really do feel that they are doing the right thing by not allowing an inmate to kill himself but the real reason they stop inmates who attempt suicide is because they can't allow them to escape whatever sentence they are supposed to serve in prison even if they are condemned to die behind bars.



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26 Dec 2018, 3:11 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Daniel

Why shouldn't people in jail be allowed suicide?

Some defendants were wrongfully convicted

Taxpayers pay for jails


Its really sad that some people are wrongly convicted. However I do think if someone has raped a child or something they shouldn't be allowed to essentially go to sleep and not wake up. They should suffer.



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26 Dec 2018, 3:38 pm

Daniel89 wrote:
shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Daniel

Why shouldn't people in jail be allowed suicide?

Some defendants were wrongfully convicted

Taxpayers pay for jails


Its really sad that some people are wrongly convicted. However I do think if someone has raped a child or something they shouldn't be allowed to essentially go to sleep and not wake up. They should suffer.


I also think it's unfair the way that it is so easy to accuse somebody of raping a child and ruin their life without any real evidence.



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26 Dec 2018, 3:47 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:
I also think it's unfair the way that it is so easy to accuse somebody of raping a child and ruin their life without any real evidence.
Rape is more than mere physical assault. It is also an assault on the emotions of the victim (I won't go into any detail why).

Unfortunately, it is this emotional content that is considered to have such great significance that the absence of evidence is either overlooked or actively disregarded in the prosecution's (and the media's) effort to obtain a conviction, especially if the alleged assailant is in a position of trust and/or influence.



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26 Dec 2018, 7:30 pm

Daniel89 wrote:
shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Daniel

Why shouldn't people in jail be allowed suicide?

Some defendants were wrongfully convicted

Taxpayers pay for jails


Its really sad that some people are wrongly convicted. However I do think if someone has raped a child or something they shouldn't be allowed to essentially go to sleep and not wake up. They should suffer.




Some defendants got wrongfully convicted of rape

Taxpayers pay for jails

Some states have death penalty



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27 Dec 2018, 1:19 pm

I will ask again, why keep living if you're health gets worse? Because i feel like my health is deteriorating everyday. Its not thst i only have autism, i have many more problems, phyisical and psycholoigical problems. It seems like many of you do not understand my wish to die, because you are healthy and sucessfull in life, but keep in mind, not everybody is that lucky. I am by no means sucessfull or even healthy.



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27 Dec 2018, 1:26 pm

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I will ask again...
Why keep asking? We all know that you are having an extremely difficult time, and some of us have even offered suggestions to mitigate your difficulties.

What do you want?



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28 Dec 2018, 6:35 am

I want to die, nothing more nothing less.



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28 Dec 2018, 4:11 pm

I don't think it's illegal, per se, in that there's no way, unless it doesn't work, to actually punish anyone who breaks that law if they actually do it.

That said, I do support outlawing assisted suicide.



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30 Dec 2018, 4:48 am

Why? Why do you want people to suffer?



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30 Dec 2018, 12:05 pm

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Why? Why do you want people to suffer?
He’s against assisted suicide - likely because it makes the “assistant” a murderer or an accessory to murder.

Pain is inevitable; suffering is a choice.

Choose wisely.



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31 Dec 2018, 12:12 am

Because we’re property of the state. The state protects you by providing you a place to live and whatever laws come with it. Though their “protection” really is a bit pathetic in most places. We pay taxes. We help keep society running. We are pets.

It can’t really be passed for the same reason homocide is illegal as it’s a completely different situation. You’re taking away others rights as opposed to forfeiting your own.

It really seems like a control mechanism to me, as what’s the point of it, what are they going to do, put a dead person in jail?

We really should have the rights to our own bodies. We shouldn’t be forced to suffer and conform to this. It’s a stupid, ignorant and basically useless law which should be abolished globally. If someone wants to do it badly enough, it’s going to take more than a dictators law to stop them.



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31 Dec 2018, 5:46 am

Suffering is not a choice, like poverty is not a choice.



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31 Dec 2018, 7:53 am

Fos11 wrote:
Suffering is not a choice, like poverty is not a choice.


I don’t think I implied suffering is a choice. I agree with you there.

In New Zealand, poverty is a choice for many because our government offers poor people the tools, funding and medicine to get out of their situation. Instead they blow their money on cigarettes and spraypaint, breed irresponsibly and then blame the right for their situation instead of themselves. :roll:

It probably is less of a choice in the US where the health care system is absurd.

It definitely is not a choice in a place like Africa.

I don’t know if that was a reply to me, sorry if it’s not.