A belief in meritocracy is not only false: it’s bad for you
Here's what Merriam-Webster has to say...
luck (n):
1) a force that brings good fortune or adversity
2) the events or circumstances that operate for or against an individual
3) favoring chance
Ha!
No, I didn't make mine up. I typed in the Google search engine "luck definition" and that's the definition it gave.
And *that* dear children is the virtue of supplying a link to the source...
And *that* is why I am so goodly and head and shoulders above my peers...
But then again, do I have any peers, apart from Sheldon Lee Cooper?
Truth: (1) that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality. (2) a fact or belief that is accepted as true.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AW ... u-hzwVf3kA
Luck: success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AW ... _IX4x9aBcM
So what are you suggesting,? Because one can prepare and give effort to succeed, which surely 'adds' to the 'chance' of success, it does not guarantee success, luck, aka, coincidence without need of effort is completely made up? I would say, as the majority of man kind would say, that both of these things are both true. One can strive for success, and one can benefit from coincidence that did not require one to even try.(Just because you try does not mean you will succeed, this should be obvious to anyone.)
I know that, I think everybody knows that. It's almost as if some try to pretend that luck/coincidences to benefit one do not occurs and that if one simply gives it effort there is no way they can fail. Basically to suggest that those who fail didn't try hard enough and it's there own fault, that is completely wrong.
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But I really believe "giving up" is something which should be avoided at all costs.
I agree. Try to do something, and the worst that could happen is that you fail. Don't try, and literally nothing will happen to you.
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I think there are some odds that by flukes of luck good things could happen when you do nothing and similarly a lot of different patterns in working hard or even knocking yourself out where virtually none of the benefits not directly related to your task line up (or if you're knocking yourself out at something practical it's like betting on a lottery ticket).
What a lot of my work ethic has revolved around, if I fail I'd much rather fail knowing I gave it my all rather than fail lazily and have a swarm of distorted 'if's and counterfactuals tormenting me. I also learn a lot more from failures when I'm giving it my all or close to my all (ie. boundaries in reality that are actually hard/firm but difficult for most people to see) because there are uncommon discoveries to be made although admittedly not all of them are pleasant. I've learned that doing this helps you exfoliate many unfair instances of personal ownerhship but it can also equally exfoliate a lot of comforting illusions as well as hope (in the later case - a work place with sane rules where chance won't randomly bring you to the guillotine regardless of personal character seems like a myth anymore).
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Well one of them at least...
So what are you saying?
Everyone can share your good fortune if they work hard enough?
Or that there are winners and losers?
Shades of Nietzsche!
<sing>
I've paid my dues
Time after time
I've done my sentence
But committed no crime
And bad mistakes
I've made a few
I've had my share of sand kicked in my face
But I've come through
We are the champions, my friends
And we'll keep on fighting 'til the end
We are the champions
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions of the world
I've taken my bows
And my curtain calls
You brought me fame and fortune and everything that goes with it
I thank you all
But it's been no bed of roses
No pleasure cruise
I consider it a challenge before the whole human race
And I ain't gonna lose
We are the champions, my friends
And we'll keep on fighting 'til the end
We are the champions
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions of the world
We are the champions, my friends
And we'll keep on fighting 'til the end
We are the champions
We are the champions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the champions
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So, how's that working out for you? Have you won any lotteries lately?
Just curious, how do you determine that acknowledging good luck, disadvantages and bad luck = giving up, doing nothing and hoping one gets lucky without trying for anything? Even I, with probably some of the most negative comments here, have not suggested I'm giving up and relying on luck to bring me fortune, I'm trying to get on SSI so I can go to doctors to 'get help' in hopes to return to the work force. Not one person here has suggested they are going to give up, sit back and hope they can get lucky and have good fortune fall in their lap.
While random chance* may be a factor in some success stories, those random chances* mean nothing if the person experiencing them is not prepared to exploit them.
(*"Random Chance" -- a.k.a., "Opportunity")
While random chance* may be a factor in some success stories, those random chances* mean nothing if the person experiencing them is not prepared to exploit them.
(*"Random Chance" -- a.k.a., "Opportunity")
I guess? Not a lot of effort involved in a twenty dollar bill blowing up in your lap other than to grab it and put it in your pocket, so if you aren't prepared to grab the twenty dollar bill and put it in your pocket, the you will not have the twenty dollar bill in your possession.
All of these things are true:
-Success can be derived by putting in effort and preparing for opportunities that may come.
-Failure is more probable as on tries less.
-Success is more probable as one tries more.
-Handicaps can weaken ones ability to achieve and if severe enough can eliminate ones ability to achieve.
-Coincidences can fall in ones favor requiring little effort other than to jump on the opportunity, just as one can try as hard as possible and fail as a negative coincidence.
-Regardless of failure, it's always best to continue trying.
-Even if you continue to try, you are not guaranteed to succeed.
And I find that people who want to attribute their success to 100% their own "awesomeness" are just too egotistical to admit that they've had lucky breaks not available to others, and are too scared to acknowledge that not everything in life is completely within one's control.
The truth is that "success" is both a matter of personal effort AND luck. Anyone who denies either side of that equation has their head firmly implanted in their rear.
I agree 100% with everything said here, but want to make the distinction between "effort" and "merit." I cannot run as fast as Usain Bolt. No matter how hard I train I will never run as fast as Usain Bolt, I just don't have the physical traits to compete there. If in some weird action movie we need to run across a 100m bridge in 10 seconds to press a button to activate the McGuffin that saves the world and the choices to do this are either me or Usain Bolt, every sane person on this planet will pick Usain Bolt to make that sprint not me. In the field of running fast Usain Bolt is much more meritorious than I.
Effort is what people can control. People who are trying their best, should not let others with better luck say they are not trying hard enough. However, merit is about production not effort. The question becomes does our society reward production, and the answer is: not perfectly, but yes. People who can produce academically in STEM fields get jobs as Doctors and Engineers and paid very well.
People who can produce extremely well in the entertainment industry either as athletes, musicians, or acting get enormous rewards whereas people who produce less well in those fields struggle greatly. Not everyone is properly valued for their skill, but in general the best football players get paid the most money.
They say the game that is most true to life is poker. There's a heavy element of luck involved in each hand, but skilled players still come out on top by playing the hands they're dealt effectively. Now it's possible in poker (although unlikely) to be so unlucky that no amount of skill rescues you.
Oh, I agree. Usain Bolt may have genetic advantages, but he had to consciously decide to cultivate his talent. He wouldn't be where he is today if he had chosen to sit on the couch and eat Cheetos instead of train. Fun fact: according to my test results in 23andMe, I have the same "muscle" profile that is found in elite athletes; however, seeing as how most of my non-work hobbies involve beer and video games, the Olympics aren't in my future. Clearly, my lack of physical prowess isn't "luck" based.
Like I said, "success" is a combination of effort and "luck." For example, when I joined the military, I had to work hard, but I was also lucky that I wasn't born with one of the hundreds of disqualifying conditions to bar me from service.
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So, how's that working out for you? Have you won any lotteries lately?
Nope, random chance has never gotten me anywhere. My argument is, even trying hard doesn't always work out, as such things as employing people, or giving promotions, or buying works of fiction or other art forms, etc, is incumbent on others who may be prejudiced, or taken by someone else' charisma or good looks, or some other reason.
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