In support of Israel.
What did the founding fathers of the US do? They stole land.
What did the Brits do? They stole land.
What makes anyone thing that the Palestinians are exempt, is my other pressing question?
I might feel differently when I'm not so angry. I do hate to see a child suffer. But, G-d D! Palestinians are Muslims, they would not be stoned if they turned to a fellow country for succor.
I guess you missed the part about the Palestinian Christians? You might know a place where a lot of Palestinian Christians are under the illegal occupation, it's called BETHLEHEM.
As far as I know enemies don't check baptismal records. They just shoot.
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JEWS HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST! In Israel!
You must tone this down when you're less angry because you're targeting a particular religion. It's inappropriate to refer to a group of people as 'locusts".
I'm not disagreeing that Israel has a right to keep their small state, as they are far more tolerant than some of the states around them - progressive and supportive of green energy. It's a remarkable nation and should be able to live in peace with it's Palestinian neighbour.
I wouldn't call bulldozing Palestinian homes to build Jewish only cities on top "tolerant". I wouldn't call 52% of Israeli Jews agreeing that "African migrants are a cancer" to their society "tolerant".
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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
I always voted for the main opposition but may switch support a to a tiny new green/ libertarian party called the Organic Humanity Movement.
So you were against apartheid in South Africa but support it in Palestine?
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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
JEWS HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST! In Israel!
You must tone this down when you're less angry because you're targeting a particular religion. It's inappropriate to refer to a group of people as 'locusts".
I'm not disagreeing that Israel has a right to keep their small state, as they are far more tolerant than some of the states around them - progressive and supportive of green energy. It's a remarkable nation and should be able to live in peace with it's Palestinian neighbour.
I wouldn't call bulldozing Palestinian homes to build Jewish only cities on top "tolerant". I wouldn't call 52% of Israeli Jews agreeing that "African migrants are a cancer" to their society "tolerant".
What was the behavior that warranted the African migrants being called a cancer, John? Or, do you believe that being alive is reason enough to be welcomed into the bosom of a foreign country?
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Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I hate you, it just means we disagree.
Neurocognitive exam in May 2019, diagnosed with ASD, Asperger's type in June 2019.
I always voted for the main opposition but may switch support a to a tiny new green/ libertarian party called the Organic Humanity Movement.
So you were against apartheid in South Africa but support it in Palestine?
Today 70.3% are Sabras. Who are they trying to be apart from John? They're all middle easterners. Stop being unoriginal
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That's horse sh*t. The West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza is Palestinian territory under International Law.
Until it isn't. Israel is going to take that land because there is nothing to suggest that the Palestinians want a peaceful two state resolution. The only thing that will stop them throwing rocks and launching rockets would be complete surrender of the entire land back. And Israel will never do that, nor should they. They defended it successfully in the 6 days war and a bunch of rag tag Palestinians won't win.
And the UN will not stop Israel. Watch...
The PLO/PA and the whole world virtually has supported the two state solution since the mid 70's. The US started vetoing it since 1976 and has done so ever since. You want to go down this road? It won't end well for you.
They stole land during the 6 day land grab. Israel doesn't have an army like that now. In 2006 they got sent home crying by Hezbollah. In 2014 soldiers had to start wearing nappies/diapers when Hamas etc started fighting back. Israel prefers just to bomb everything in site.
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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
JEWS HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST! In Israel!
You must tone this down when you're less angry because you're targeting a particular religion. It's inappropriate to refer to a group of people as 'locusts".
I'm not disagreeing that Israel has a right to keep their small state, as they are far more tolerant than some of the states around them - progressive and supportive of green energy. It's a remarkable nation and should be able to live in peace with it's Palestinian neighbour.
I wouldn't call bulldozing Palestinian homes to build Jewish only cities on top "tolerant". I wouldn't call 52% of Israeli Jews agreeing that "African migrants are a cancer" to their society "tolerant".
What was the behavior that warranted the African migrants being called a cancer, John? Or, do you believe that being alive is reason enough to be welcomed into the bosom of a foreign country?
They are the wrong race. Israelis think it will destroy their ethnic make up.
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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
JEWS HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST! In Israel!
You must tone this down when you're less angry because you're targeting a particular religion. It's inappropriate to refer to a group of people as 'locusts".
I'm not disagreeing that Israel has a right to keep their small state, as they are far more tolerant than some of the states around them - progressive and supportive of green energy. It's a remarkable nation and should be able to live in peace with it's Palestinian neighbour.
I wouldn't call bulldozing Palestinian homes to build Jewish only cities on top "tolerant". I wouldn't call 52% of Israeli Jews agreeing that "African migrants are a cancer" to their society "tolerant".
What was the behavior that warranted the African migrants being called a cancer, John? Or, do you believe that being alive is reason enough to be welcomed into the bosom of a foreign country?
They are the wrong race. Israelis think it will destroy their ethnic make up.
The wrong race, or the wrong number John? How big is Israel? How many THOUSANDS of African refugees descended on them? With NO means to house or support themselves. Half were sent away, half were kept. And not because they changed color. Which is it John, more land or less people? You can't take in more refugees unless you have more room.
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Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I hate you, it just means we disagree.
Neurocognitive exam in May 2019, diagnosed with ASD, Asperger's type in June 2019.
That's horse sh*t. The West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza is Palestinian territory under International Law.
Until it isn't. Israel is going to take that land because there is nothing to suggest that the Palestinians want a peaceful two state resolution. The only thing that will stop them throwing rocks and launching rockets would be complete surrender of the entire land back. And Israel will never do that, nor should they. They defended it successfully in the 6 days war and a bunch of rag tag Palestinians won't win.
And the UN will not stop Israel. Watch...
The PLO/PA and the whole world virtually has supported the two state solution since the mid 70's. The US started vetoing it since 1976 and has done so ever since. You want to go down this road? It won't end well for you.
They stole land during the 6 day land grab. Israel doesn't have an army like that now. In 2006 they got sent home crying by Hezbollah. In 2014 soldiers had to start wearing nappies/diapers when Hamas etc started fighting back. Israel prefers just to bomb everything in site.
It doesn't need to go well for me, John. It's going well for Israel.
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Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I hate you, it just means we disagree.
Neurocognitive exam in May 2019, diagnosed with ASD, Asperger's type in June 2019.
I agree with Kraftie and firemonkey on this.
No doubt Israel has a right to exist. However, Palestine also has a right to exist.
This "might makes right" stuff is a complete non-starter for me. I don't buy it for a second. I can understand the "realist" approach - "there's no point trying to change it as we won't succeed" - but there's a gap between "is" and "ought" and reality does not need defending.
I support a two-state solution based on the 1948-1967 borders, with some clever compromise on Jerusalem (possibly making it an independent city state like the Vatican) and pragmatic land exchanges where they can be mutually agreed. Both nations would need access to the coast, and a way of joining their enclaves. Both nations would need to be multi-cultural, with a strong emphasis on human rights and integration. I also oppose antisemitism in all countries, including Israel's neighbours - and while that's important, it doesn't absolve Israel of the responsibility to get its house in order. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I'd like to see something along those lines.
JEWS HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST! In Israel!
You must tone this down when you're less angry because you're targeting a particular religion. It's inappropriate to refer to a group of people as 'locusts".
I'm not disagreeing that Israel has a right to keep their small state, as they are far more tolerant than some of the states around them - progressive and supportive of green energy. It's a remarkable nation and should be able to live in peace with it's Palestinian neighbour.
I wouldn't call bulldozing Palestinian homes to build Jewish only cities on top "tolerant". I wouldn't call 52% of Israeli Jews agreeing that "African migrants are a cancer" to their society "tolerant".
What was the behavior that warranted the African migrants being called a cancer, John? Or, do you believe that being alive is reason enough to be welcomed into the bosom of a foreign country?
They are the wrong race. Israelis think it will destroy their ethnic make up.
The wrong race, or the wrong number John? How big is Israel? How many THOUSANDS of African refugees descended on them? With NO means to house or support themselves. Half were sent away, half were kept. And not because they changed color. Which is it John, more land or less people? You can't take in more refugees unless you have more room.
Both. I don't disagree with stopping a flood. But Palestinians should have the right to return or a just settlement. You don't seem to have a problem with Jewish immigrants flooding in from across the world though, and Palestinian houses smashed down so new colonies can be built on top.
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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
There will never be a two state solution. As the US is paying for the illegal settlements on what would have been a Palestinian state. Israel needs to be boycotted, divested against and sanctioned. One state solution is the only way now.
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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
Robert Mugabe had taken over from a white-minority government about 1980 in Zimbabwe, and he went the other way, being racist against white people. He didn't feel the Mandela way was the best way.
When there is a ruler or culture that becomes racist against white people there isn't as much global outcry as the reverse. Remember, only white people are the most racist in this world.
People have a history of being racist---whether they are white, brown, black, pink, or polka-dotted.
I don't feel there is much "hatred of whites" even amongst most liberals in the United States.
I live amongst many different sorts of people----and I feel they are, for the most part, fine people.
JEWS HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST! In Israel!
You must tone this down when you're less angry because you're targeting a particular religion. It's inappropriate to refer to a group of people as 'locusts".
I'm not disagreeing that Israel has a right to keep their small state, as they are far more tolerant than some of the states around them - progressive and supportive of green energy. It's a remarkable nation and should be able to live in peace with it's Palestinian neighbour.
I wouldn't call bulldozing Palestinian homes to build Jewish only cities on top "tolerant". I wouldn't call 52% of Israeli Jews agreeing that "African migrants are a cancer" to their society "tolerant".
What was the behavior that warranted the African migrants being called a cancer, John? Or, do you believe that being alive is reason enough to be welcomed into the bosom of a foreign country?
They are the wrong race. Israelis think it will destroy their ethnic make up.
The wrong race, or the wrong number John? How big is Israel? How many THOUSANDS of African refugees descended on them? With NO means to house or support themselves. Half were sent away, half were kept. And not because they changed color. Which is it John, more land or less people? You can't take in more refugees unless you have more room.
Both. I don't disagree with stopping a flood. But Palestinians should have the right to return or a just settlement. You don't seem to have a problem with Jewish immigrants flooding in from across the world though, and Palestinian houses smashed down so new colonies can be built on top.
Jewish immigrants flooding into where? I've never know there to be enough Jews to flood in anywhere. If you are referring to the 1950 law of return, that supersedes refugees showing up on a small country today.
The JEWS won, John. Deal with it... I'll tell you what my divorce attorney told me many years ago, when I was in his office whinging about some injustice, I said "he doesn't have the right.....!" My attorney said, "he might not have the right, but he has the power."
Fact is, the Palestinians don't have anything the world wants. And they've never had anything the world wants. Israel has something the world wants, so they will keep moving forward and edging the Palestinians out.
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Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I hate you, it just means we disagree.
Neurocognitive exam in May 2019, diagnosed with ASD, Asperger's type in June 2019.
No doubt Israel has a right to exist. However, Palestine also has a right to exist.
This "might makes right" stuff is a complete non-starter for me. I don't buy it for a second. I can understand the "realist" approach - "there's no point trying to change it as we won't succeed" - but there's a gap between "is" and "ought" and reality does not need defending.
I support a two-state solution based on the 1948-1967 borders, with some clever compromise on Jerusalem (possibly making it an independent city state like the Vatican) and pragmatic land exchanges where they can be mutually agreed. Both nations would need access to the coast, and a way of joining their enclaves. Both nations would need to be multi-cultural, with a strong emphasis on human rights and integration. I also oppose antisemitism in all countries, including Israel's neighbours - and while that's important, it doesn't absolve Israel of the responsibility to get its house in order. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I'd like to see something along those lines.
You and thinkinginpictures think that when I say, 'the right,' I mean right. I'm not studying right and wrong, that's for God to sort out. What I am focused on is how it goes. Who focuses on the Kurds at the UN? I mean really gives a s**t about whether they live or die? The answer is nobody. Is it tragic? Probably... but, it's a fact. Who gave a s**t about Tibet, besides the potheads riding around with bumper stickers on their cars? Now, who in power gives a s**t about Palestinians? Nobody. It's the truth. And not John, nor you, or thinkinginpictures is going to do a damn thing but sit on here and virtue signal. Is it sad? It could be. This is nature, this is social darwinism. But you've convinced yourselves that sitting around being sad about something is an action. Palestinians could get together their best minds and come up with a way to begin again and survive. But, they've chosen the path of extinction, because they lack the ability to adapt.
What do a bunch of Baboons do when a bigger group takes their spot? They MOVE! And they live to fight, breed, eat another day. We are not that far from animals, but you go ahead with your high ideals. I'm sure some Palestinian in a boiling hot tent is grateful.
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Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I hate you, it just means we disagree.
Neurocognitive exam in May 2019, diagnosed with ASD, Asperger's type in June 2019.
