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08 Jun 2020, 2:10 am

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IF THE WALK OF SHAME WAS A PERSON. PROTESTERS BOOED MINNEAPOLIS MAYOR JACOB FREY AFTER SPEECH

"GO HOME JACOB!. GO HOME!" MINNEAPOLIS MAYOR JACOB FREY WAS BOOED OUT OF A PROTEST AFTER HE SAID HE DID NOT SUPPORT ABOLISHING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. BTW HE'S HES UP FOR RE-ELECTION NEXT YEAR.

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08 Jun 2020, 2:15 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Yep, it's really happening. Everything we have discussed in this forum about NT's hive mind making choices based on emotions.

Right on, brother!
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What is the "Aspie" salute, btw? :scratch:

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08 Jun 2020, 2:24 am

Probably same as the Vulcan one.

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08 Jun 2020, 2:32 am

Wolfram87 wrote:

Probably same as the Vulcan one.

Live long and continue to be rational. :wink:

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08 Jun 2020, 5:51 am

BLM's conquest continues.

Watch the criminals pack up and move to Minneapolis if they remove their police force.

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08 Jun 2020, 6:13 am

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Well the government would never give into dismantling the police departments, so why even talk about it, when it wouldn't happen? Why worry?

Why indeed? Why indeed... :oops:

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08 Jun 2020, 8:13 am

It will be interesting to see how the rest of the state of Minnesota reacts to this in the voting booths. It goes without saying that urban and rural are like night and day in their needs, concerns, etc. There is also a big difference between urban and suburban. I would argue that most people who live outside of Minneapolis/St. Paul (aka the Twin Cities) think the dismantling or abolishment of the police force in a city of millions is insane. From the voter perspective the idea is 100% of Democrat creation vs. Republican. We can also assume that a large number of people who DO live in the Twin Cities think the idea is insane as well.

I've seen things in the news already where people are saying that if people do not publicly support BLM that they are racist. Silence = racism. Will there be an attempt to go as far as saying that if people don't vote Democrat they're automatically racist?

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08 Jun 2020, 8:47 am

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I've seen things in the news already where people are saying that if people do not publicly support BLM that they are racist. Silence = racism. Will there be an attempt to go as far as saying that if people don't vote Democrat they're automatically racist?

Almost certainly. It's all us vs them with BLM. Submit to their demands or be targeted.

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08 Jun 2020, 8:38 pm

Drake wrote:

Magna wrote:

Almost certainly. It's all us vs them with BLM. Submit to their demands or be targeted.

Well, if you are against the idea that black lives matter, then you are probably racist. If you see all the protests and black people saying how they have been mistreated and think nothing is wrong and don't support them, then you are either willfully ignorant or racist, it is just a fact.

You don't get to choose every label that is given to you, but it can be your choice to act a certain way that supports rather than discriminates if you don't want to be called that. JK Rowling could stop saying transphobic things if she does not want people to call her a TERF. Racist is not some dirty word that you are not allowed to say in polite society and only should be reserved for the most egregious of cases, you are not being discriminated against for "having your own thoughts".

How ridiculous is it that people are getting upset over being called discriminatory for being discriminatory, like they are the ones being discriminated against.

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08 Jun 2020, 9:22 pm

Well, that's the second time you've called someone racist in this thread, Bradleigh. Way to dumb down the conversation. Well done!

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08 Jun 2020, 9:31 pm

Capitalized. Or not? Which way do you mean it?

If you don't think that...Black lives matter....then you are racist.

If you don't support the organization called "Black Lives Matter" then you might not necessarily be racist.

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08 Jun 2020, 9:38 pm

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Well, that's the second time you've called someone racist in this thread, Bradleigh. Way to dumb down the conversation. Well done!

No, I said that someone would racist if they were against a movement for racial equality, I think that is rather reasonable response. If you don't agree with that assessment, then tell me why.

What are your standards that someone could be sufficiently racist before you could say that they were racist?

I have already made my argument in how I don't think the terms is as forbidden as people act like it is, like some sort of racial or gender discriminatory slur. I have my own problems, when I go for a walk and see a black guy walking the opposite direction to me I actually do tense up, it is a sh***y and somewhat uncontrollable reaction due to the fact I am not actually exposed to dark skinned people as much as I should. But I don't let that impact how I support causes for them.

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08 Jun 2020, 9:59 pm

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It would matter why would not support the organization (movement), if you genuinely think that there are inherent problems within it or do so out of protest that you don't think it does enough, then that would be reasonable. But if you are doing so because you are buying into media narrative that itself is being racist by acting like they are all thugs and are for black supremacy, then that is pretty racist. I have read in these forums that people literally believe that BLM is some kind of black supremacy movement, justifying it by twisting the narrative of events, and I stand by that doing so either makes you ignorant, or a racist that is not controversial.

I don't support the Men's Rights movement or the Egalitarian movement, does that make me sexist? I stand by that that these movements are largely used by actual sexists to discredit feminism and be able to walk back from progress already made. Especially since Feminism as a movement has moved away from the more narrow second wave, and into intersectionality, which puts focuses on individual privileges that can exist for different groups.

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09 Jun 2020, 5:20 am

Bradleigh wrote:

Drake wrote:

Magna wrote:

Almost certainly. It's all us vs them with BLM. Submit to their demands or be targeted.

But I'm not. All lives matter. But I don't have a problem with someone declaring that black lives matter in the current context. It's the organisation of the same name itself that I have a problem with. Both for their goals and their methods of achieving them.

I'm not going to bow and scrape to avoid being called racist. I know I'm not racist. People doing that leads to the likes of the child grooming epidemic in Britain. And people caving in to BLM and the far leftists and intersectional feminists now. It's disgusting. People will see easily that you reek of fear and take full advantage of it. You've already displayed with your post how BLM can take advantage by deflecting criticism of them by just saying if you don't think black lives matter, you're racist. It's cheap. And those afraid of being called racist will cave in to it. You shouldn't join in with that. You already know my problem is with the organisation, not black people.

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09 Jun 2020, 5:33 am

Magna wrote:

It will be interesting to see how the rest of the state of Minnesota reacts to this in the voting booths. It goes without saying that urban and rural are like night and day in their needs, concerns, etc. There is also a big difference between urban and suburban. I would argue that most people who live outside of Minneapolis/St. Paul (aka the Twin Cities) think the dismantling or abolishment of the police force in a city of millions is insane. From the voter perspective the idea is 100% of Democrat creation vs. Republican. We can also assume that a large number of people who DO live in the Twin Cities think the idea is insane as well.

I've seen things in the news already where people are saying that if people do not publicly support BLM that they are racist. Silence = racism. Will there be an attempt to go as far as saying that if people don't vote Democrat they're automatically racist?

I've heard Black people, in the news, saying that the BLM protest has been hijacked by anarchists.

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09 Jun 2020, 5:39 am

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Well, that's the second time you've called someone racist in this thread, Bradleigh. Way to dumb down the conversation. Well done!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
*AGAIN!???*

I'm going "Up the River",
So I haven't come to that post, yet.
It isn't me, is it?
The last time I checked I wasn't,
But, hey, people can change. :mrgreen:

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