The moral roots of Liberals and Conservatives

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19 Sep 2020, 8:45 am

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Conservatives value the individual over a group (collective).
Interesting.
Imagine building a road. A road is for everyone but each needs to give a bit of his land or his money so it can be built.
Are conservatives anti-road, as it supresses individual interests for a common goal?

Conservatives thinking is there's no "common good" , just "individual good".

If individuals don't agree to it, then it shouldn't get done.

So, in our example, whose individual good is the road, once built?

The individuals that built the road.

They built the road because it benefited them.

But in this example, there's no individual who built it. Everyone contributed something and everyone plus more benefit from the result. That's exactly what "common good" means.


A mix of common good and the chance for the individual to work hard to get ahead of the crowd is good.



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19 Sep 2020, 8:48 am

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A mix of common good and the chance for the individual to work hard to get ahead of the crowd is good.

To this, I absolutely agree.


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19 Sep 2020, 9:21 am

magz wrote:
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A mix of common good and the chance for the individual to work hard to get ahead of the crowd is good.

To this, I absolutely agree.


Third -ed.

Can't really imagine any other scenario which would satisfy the most people.


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19 Sep 2020, 11:13 am

TheRobotLives wrote:
magz wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Conservatives value the individual over a group (collective).
Interesting.
Imagine building a road. A road is for everyone but each needs to give a bit of his land or his money so it can be built.
Are conservatives anti-road, as it supresses individual interests for a common goal?

Conservatives thinking is there's no "common good" , just "individual good".

If individuals don't agree to it, then it shouldn't get done.


But this is America. Our Constitution was founded on the common good. And this really is the problem with the extreme conservative movement in the US, it is really an anarchist movement.



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19 Sep 2020, 11:45 am

Jiheisho wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
magz wrote:
TheRobotLives wrote:
Conservatives value the individual over a group (collective).
Interesting.
Imagine building a road. A road is for everyone but each needs to give a bit of his land or his money so it can be built.
Are conservatives anti-road, as it supresses individual interests for a common goal?

Conservatives thinking is there's no "common good" , just "individual good".

If individuals don't agree to it, then it shouldn't get done.


But this is America. Our Constitution was founded on the common good. And this really is the problem with the extreme conservative movement in the US, it is really an anarchist movement.


Truly; The So-Called Conservative Movement in action at
This Moment is Licking THeir Chops Over the Common
Good Of Healthcare Going away; The Common Good
For Women's Rights Being Chopped Down at the Roots
of Human Reproductive Freedoms; And Other Limitations
of Human
Freedoms
for the
Rights
to THEIR
LIFE, LIBERTY,
AND PURSUIT
OF INDIVIDUAL
HAPPINESS is
Antithesis
of the
Intent
of the Declaration
of Independence in
This Country For Reproductive
Freedoms, Health Care; and Safety
Measures to Insure All Humans Remain
Healthy with the Basics to Achieve their
Personal Pursuits Now of Happiness is the
Last thing the Current so-Called Republican
Administration continues to do with Not even
the Common Sense of Conservatism to Save Human

Life at core of

Even breathing now

At the Level of Administrative

Politics THAT Version of 'Conservatism'
in Action is Morphed into Simple Selfish
Greed to Authorize Taking Away Freedoms
to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness
at Core of what it means to Live Free.. Yes It's

(i find it)

Totally

Disgusting

And 'Right' out of the

Play Book of Machiavellian

Leaning and Flavored Psychopathy;

One Need Look No Further than A Trump

Rally of Folks Sitting Side-By-Side With

(In A VERY DANGEROUS PANDEMIC)

No Masks Now to See a Microcosm

of the 'Entire Cultural Human Disorder'...

No Doubt, if an Extraterrestrial Intelligence Will
Come to Earth; 'they' will Intimate what in 'their World'
is going on that 'A Leader' Could Probably Shoot someone
in Public and those Followers Would Still Go 'that way'...

It's truly
Beyond
Bizarre
And Sadly
Just Everyday
Human Nature too;
of course as the so-called
Leader finds the thought
as expressed of Shaking
Any of the Followers
Hands Disgusting
for Being
What
he
Sees
as Losers
for Following Him...
The Irony is simply TRuLY ATROCIOUS....


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