Facebook prioritizing different types of hate speech
These individuals would actually favour non-whites, these days.
I don't think your scenario is that accurate, these days.
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Nah mate, I've been on job interview panels a long long time ago and seen how applicants with Asian names are tossed into a paper shredding machine on the assumption i) their qualifications will be embellished and ii) the English competency will be poor, This is actually true but employers, banks, real estate companies take their bias and extend it to people who don't deserve it.
That is my point.
Things have changed, from a long, long time ago.

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You might want to discuss that with Alex, he's been pretty clear that it is allowed on this site.
Discussion about white privilege is has occurred often in PPR without censorship. It is not personal it is a concept. "Check your privilege" is personal.
Lots of banned content gets discussed, until someone challenges it.
I am strongly against the concept of "white privilege". I want to be allowed to state my objection to the concept and not be censored. Censoring a concept is pretending a concept does not exist.
How does "white privilege" censor you?
Robot says discussing "white privilege" is against site rules. Pretty sure AsPartofMe is expressing they don't want discussion of "white privilege" censored so they can express their opposition to the concept.
I think the concept is fine, it describes a phenomenon that exists in society. I dislike how people emphasize this phenomenon because I think it's destructive to focus on racial differences. But, I agree its a silly interpretation of the forum rules to say it can't be discussed.
That is what I was saying.
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This is a recognised psychological phenomenon but nobody is preventing you from critiquing it.
Assuming you mean it applied to all whites, doesn't the word "phenomenon" mean it really exists, ?
Isn't that a false statement?
I would call it a "concept", rather than a "phenomenon"
/fəˈnɒmɪnən/
noun
noun: phenomenon; plural noun: phenomena
1.
a fact or situation that is observed to exist or happen,
https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... phenomenon
It's applied in this way.
If two people have the same personality, mental health, IQ, status, grades, income and on paper the same qualifications and one person is black and one white then the law of white privilege predicts the white person is statistically more likely to
j) get a job
ii) get better education
ii) get a bank loan
iii) not get harassed by the police
iv) get approval for a house/tenancy in a predominantly white area
The data says I am correct
I have answered this before but I will have a second bite.
Human resources have to a large extent, been taken over by the political left who favour positive discrimination towards minority groups.
From what I heard, graduates from some humanities courses have few opportunities to find employment other than jobs such as in "Human Resources".
Once there, they create an enclave of like thinking people, until the culture of the business has virtually been taken over.
This type of left-wing political coup has happened in the Australian ABC, and so much for diversity of thought.
It is a problem in many businesses these days, EA, the computer game entertainment company, being just another victim. That left-wing culture virtually destroyed Battlefield 5 because of the SJW interference.
You have to hand it to the left of politics.
They plan ahead.

This site has a rule that you're not suppose to make generalizations of people groups.
Such as "Liberals are XXXX" or "Trump supporters are XXXX" or "Autistics are XXXX".
"White privilege" is such a statement.
It declares all the people in the white racial people group are XXXX.
It is not a generalisation to say that all white people experience white privilege. It is axiomatic. A white person is someone who experiences white privilege. We are not in the business of censoring facts because individuals don’t understand them.
If you interpret it as an axiomatic truth about all white people, which is absurd, then I would think that would be banned as racist.
It follows the form of "All Black people are axiomatic XXXX" ,where XXXX is some assumed axiomatic trait.
You think wrongly.
Race is a social construct. A white person is a person who is perceived as belonging to the “white” category. These people are less likely to experience a whole host of negative experiences. This is called “white privilege”. White privilege is nothing more or less than a description of the fact that in white-ruled societies, white people do not experience the same sorts of pervasive racism that non-white people do. It is not a moral judgement, it does not mean that all white people are richer than all non-white people, it is merely a description of whiteness. It does not tell you anything about white people. It doesn’t mean “white arrogance” or even “white racism”, it’s more like saying “tall people are tall” or “gay people are attracted to people of the same gender.
On the other hand, if you tried to say that all black people are criminals then this would nearly always be a racist statement as it would be a slur against black people. The exception would be if you tried to say that the nature of our society means that black people are routinely criminalised simply for their race. It is not acceptable to say “black people are more inclined towards criminality than other races” but it is acceptable to say “our society is racist”.
This is not up for debate. This is the last word on the subject of WrongPlanet’s rules. Please stop derailing the thread to push your own agenda. If you’d like to discuss the validity of white privilege then you may do so, but the rules are the rules and are not the subject of this topic.
I am not derailing this thread.
I am not the one who brought up the subject of "white privilege".
This topic is about what is perceived to be hate speech/hate content.
On page one, FE questioned whether discussion of "white privilege" should be banned or not, like other topics getting banned.
As I posted earlier, the US government has declared "white privilege" to be hate content and banned it.
My argument is with the math of such a proposition.
The fundamental flaw with your reasoning are the many assumptions that people necessarily have it better.
Life shows us, that people who experience adversity and struggle may *have it better*. We hear "because I lost my job, I started my own company".
Life shows us, that people who experience poverty may *have it better*. "Poverty taught me lessons in life".
So, what you may assume is "privilege" like status, wealth, preferential treatment, may be a hurdle, or a hindrance
This is how math (probability) works.
So, "white privilege" is not axiomatic truth, rather, a bundle of assumptions, maybe, offensive.
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The problem is that you're not talking about probability theory, you're talking about stimulus/response behaviors. There just isn't a practicable way to put quality of life on a spreadsheet entirely.
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As I posted earlier, the US government has declared "white privilege" to be hate content and banned it.
The US government did no such thing. Trump "banned" federal employees from discussing it via executive order. Just like he "banned" EPA employees from saying "climate change". The only sense in which it is "hate speech" is some people "hate" hearing about it. The order ONLY affects federal employees. We are not federal employees. We can still talk about it. You can't stop us from talking about it.
Life shows us, that people who experience adversity and struggle may *have it better*. We hear "because I lost my job, I started my own company".
So, what you may assume is "privilege" like status, wealth, preferential treatment, may be a hurdle, or a hindrance
That is the most absurd argument I've ever heard. While there is some tiny sliver of truth, in that poor people can still find happiness, and rich people aren't necessarily happy, it's so, so far disconnected from the reality of the situation, I can't even...
This is how math (probability) works.
No. No it isn't.
That has nothing to do with math. Or statistics. Which are separate fields. None of that has anything to do with "math". You have no idea what you're talking about. But please do continue. It's entertaining at least. You do have a good imagination.
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If we are going to be talking about "positive discrimination," is positive ableism a thing? We have services that will only employ people with disabilities and I have heard about companies wanting to hire people with ASDs. I have heard of services that will give disabled people homes or give them food stamps. What about the NTs?
Hey why is the government giving disabled people free money? What about the NTs who are also unlucky?
Don't forget my school would also give slow learners extra help in school so they wouldn't be held back or drop out and also they helped students with learning issues too so they also wouldn't be forced to repeat classes or be unable to graduate due to not enough credits. After all, you wouldn't want them to end up like my husband who had been held back several times he couldn't finish high school because of his age. What about the NT students? They are not being given help and not having their work be modified or made easier for them. They are forced to work hard while the kids with learning issues and those with Low IQs too don't have to do as much hard work.
(this whole post is sarcasm BTW. I'm using logic here on positive discrimination")
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Yeah, it's impossible to quantify.
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Hey why is the government giving disabled people free money? What about the NTs who are also unlucky?

Despite your sarcasm, there is a famous proverb, that suggests to positive abelism is a GREAT THING.
Teaching someone to do something, is much better than giving them handouts.

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Be the hero of your life.
It's a good question.
However, I have been accused of derailing this topic. So, I should not answer.
I will drop out now.
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Be the hero of your life.

Hey why is the government giving disabled people free money? What about the NTs who are also unlucky?

Despite your sarcasm, there is a famous proverb, that suggests to positive abelism is a GREAT THING.
Teaching someone to do something, is much better than giving them handouts.

So shouldn't positive discrimination be a great thing too?

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Human resources have to a large extent, been taken over by the political left who favour positive discrimination towards minority groups.
From what I heard, graduates from some humanities courses have few opportunities to find employment other than jobs such as in "Human Resources".
Once there, they create an enclave of like thinking people, until the culture of the business has virtually been taken over.
This type of left-wing political coup has happened in the Australian ABC, and so much for diversity of thought.
It is a problem in many businesses these days, EA, the computer game entertainment company, being just another victim. That left-wing culture virtually destroyed Battlefield 5 because of the SJW interference.
You have to hand it to the left of politics.
They plan ahead.

Sorry, this seems like some sort of conspiracy theory against inclusivity, and not liking how culture is changing for everyone to be given a shot. Wanting "diversity of thought" over actual diversity, when I have an idea of what types of thoughts many people want diversified, which are the types that want to be allowed to discriminate.
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Human resources have to a large extent, been taken over by the political left who favour positive discrimination towards minority groups.
From what I heard, graduates from some humanities courses have few opportunities to find employment other than jobs such as in "Human Resources".
Once there, they create an enclave of like thinking people, until the culture of the business has virtually been taken over.
This type of left-wing political coup has happened in the Australian ABC, and so much for diversity of thought.
It is a problem in many businesses these days, EA, the computer game entertainment company, being just another victim. That left-wing culture virtually destroyed Battlefield 5 because of the SJW interference.
You have to hand it to the left of politics.
They plan ahead.

I always liked Vox Day's "five stages of corporate convergence."
Convergence describes the degree to which an organization prioritizes social justice. There are five stages of corporate convergence:
1. Infiltrated. The corporation has been entered by people devoted to social justice, but they do not have any significant influence or authority within the company. Employees are hired, fired, and promoted on the basis of either merit or connections. The marketing tends to reflect the company's products and services.
2. Lightly Converged. The social justice infiltrators have begun to move into their preferred areas, such as Human Resources and Marketing, but they don't have any real influence over the corporation's policies or corporate strategies. The company starts to make occasional noises about "outreach" and "diversity", but doesn't actually change its employment practices. The marketing is still mostly about the company's products, but now features improbably diverse scenarios.
3. Moderately Converged. Social justice advocates now control Human Resources, which is used as a corporate high ground to exert influence over other departments as well as the executive team. The corporate marketing begins to devote more attention to signaling corporate virtue than selling its products. Managers are encouraged to hire diverse candidates and to stop holding low-performance employees accountable. HR begins holding mandatory awareness sessions and hiring diversity consultants. The corporation's customer service begins to go downhill.
4. Heavily Converged. Social justice advocates now control the corporate high ground and the strategic centers. Significant elements of the executive team and the board are devoted to social justice, often in a very public manner. Implicit hiring quotas are imposed and it becomes almost impossible to fire anyone for anything short of murder in the workplace. HR openly dictates corporate policy to employees, often without consulting the executives. The marketing materials not only signal corporate virtue, but openly advocate various social justice issues. The corporation shows indifference to its core customer base and begins to obsess over new markets that mostly exist in its imagination.
5. Fully Converged. The corporation devotes significant resources to social causes that have absolutely nothing to do with its core business activities. Human Resources is transformed into a full Inquisition, imposing its policies without restraint and striking fear into everyone from the Chairman of the Board on down. The CEO regularly mouths social justice platitudes in the place of corporate strategies and the marketing materials are so full of virtue-signaling and social justice advocacy that it becomes difficult to tell from them what the company actually does or sells. The corporation now shows open contempt for its customers.
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I work in a fortune 500 in an autism group & you're dead wrong about that where any serious engineering firm is concerned. Have some respect for what you don't know.
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I have answered this before but I will have a second bite.
Human resources have to a large extent, been taken over by the political left who favour positive discrimination towards minority groups.
From what I heard, graduates from some humanities courses have few opportunities to find employment other than jobs such as in "Human Resources".
Once there, they create an enclave of like thinking people, until the culture of the business has virtually been taken over.
This type of left-wing political coup has happened in the Australian ABC, and so much for diversity of thought.
It is a problem in many businesses these days, EA, the computer game entertainment company, being just another victim. That left-wing culture virtually destroyed Battlefield 5 because of the SJW interference.
You have to hand it to the left of politics.
They plan ahead.

Saying things doesn't make then true

It's a great story. But just cos you tell it doesn't make it become real.
You can say whatever you want. It's still not true.
It is at least interesting though. Imagination is a wonderful gift.
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