07 Dec 2020, 6:51 am
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Human resources has been inundated with left-wing university graduates, based on my sources.
These individuals would actually favour non-whites, these days.
I don't think your scenario is that accurate, these days.
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These individuals would actually favour non-whites, these days.
I don't think your scenario is that accurate, these days.
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Nah mate, I've been on job interview panels a long long time ago and seen how applicants with Asian names are tossed into a paper shredding machine on the assumption i) their qualifications will be embellished and ii) the English competency will be poor, This is actually true but employers, banks, real estate companies take their bias and extend it to people who don't deserve it.
That is my point.
Things have changed, from a long, long time ago.
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07 Dec 2020, 7:01 am
07 Dec 2020, 7:07 am
cyberdad wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
I am strongly against the concept of "white privilege". I want to be allowed to state my objection to the concept and not be censored. Censoring a concept is pretending a concept does not exist.
This is a recognised psychological phenomenon but nobody is preventing you from critiquing it.
Assuming you mean it applied to all whites, doesn't the word "phenomenon" mean it really exists, ?
Isn't that a false statement?
I would call it a "concept", rather than a "phenomenon"
Quote:
phenomenon
/fəˈnɒmɪnən/
noun
noun: phenomenon; plural noun: phenomena
1.
a fact or situation that is observed to exist or happen,
/fəˈnɒmɪnən/
noun
noun: phenomenon; plural noun: phenomena
1.
a fact or situation that is observed to exist or happen,
https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... phenomenon
It's applied in this way.
If two people have the same personality, mental health, IQ, status, grades, income and on paper the same qualifications and one person is black and one white then the law of white privilege predicts the white person is statistically more likely to
j) get a job
ii) get better education
ii) get a bank loan
iii) not get harassed by the police
iv) get approval for a house/tenancy in a predominantly white area
The data says I am correct
I have answered this before but I will have a second bite.
Human resources have to a large extent, been taken over by the political left who favour positive discrimination towards minority groups.
From what I heard, graduates from some humanities courses have few opportunities to find employment other than jobs such as in "Human Resources".
Once there, they create an enclave of like thinking people, until the culture of the business has virtually been taken over.
This type of left-wing political coup has happened in the Australian ABC, and so much for diversity of thought.
It is a problem in many businesses these days, EA, the computer game entertainment company, being just another victim. That left-wing culture virtually destroyed Battlefield 5 because of the SJW interference.
You have to hand it to the left of politics.
They plan ahead.
07 Dec 2020, 9:24 am
Crikey, Pepe, are you really going down the “too many women in video games” rabbit hole? 
07 Dec 2020, 2:30 pm
07 Dec 2020, 3:02 pm
The problem is that you're not talking about probability theory, you're talking about stimulus/response behaviors. There just isn't a practicable way to put quality of life on a spreadsheet entirely.
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07 Dec 2020, 3:10 pm
07 Dec 2020, 3:14 pm
If we are going to be talking about "positive discrimination," is positive ableism a thing? We have services that will only employ people with disabilities and I have heard about companies wanting to hire people with ASDs. I have heard of services that will give disabled people homes or give them food stamps. What about the NTs? 
Hey why is the government giving disabled people free money? What about the NTs who are also unlucky?
Don't forget my school would also give slow learners extra help in school so they wouldn't be held back or drop out and also they helped students with learning issues too so they also wouldn't be forced to repeat classes or be unable to graduate due to not enough credits. After all, you wouldn't want them to end up like my husband who had been held back several times he couldn't finish high school because of his age. What about the NT students? They are not being given help and not having their work be modified or made easier for them. They are forced to work hard while the kids with learning issues and those with Low IQs too don't have to do as much hard work.
(this whole post is sarcasm BTW. I'm using logic here on positive discrimination")
07 Dec 2020, 3:24 pm
07 Dec 2020, 3:33 pm
League_Girl wrote:
If we are going to be talking about "positive discrimination," is positive ableism a thing? We have services that will only employ people with disabilities and I have heard about companies wanting to hire people with ASDs. I have heard of services that will give disabled people homes or give them food stamps. What about the NTs?
Hey why is the government giving disabled people free money? What about the NTs who are also unlucky?
Hey why is the government giving disabled people free money? What about the NTs who are also unlucky?
Despite your sarcasm, there is a famous proverb, that suggests to positive abelism is a GREAT THING.
Teaching someone to do something, is much better than giving them handouts.
07 Dec 2020, 3:39 pm
07 Dec 2020, 5:20 pm
TheRobotLives wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
If we are going to be talking about "positive discrimination," is positive ableism a thing? We have services that will only employ people with disabilities and I have heard about companies wanting to hire people with ASDs. I have heard of services that will give disabled people homes or give them food stamps. What about the NTs?
Hey why is the government giving disabled people free money? What about the NTs who are also unlucky?
Hey why is the government giving disabled people free money? What about the NTs who are also unlucky?
Despite your sarcasm, there is a famous proverb, that suggests to positive abelism is a GREAT THING.
Teaching someone to do something, is much better than giving them handouts.
So shouldn't positive discrimination be a great thing too?
We also want them to succeed too so why not hire more of them and let them get into college so they have a better chance at succeeding so they are not part of the statistics for poverty and crime.
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07 Dec 2020, 5:54 pm
Pepe wrote:
I have answered this before but I will have a second bite.
Human resources have to a large extent, been taken over by the political left who favour positive discrimination towards minority groups.
From what I heard, graduates from some humanities courses have few opportunities to find employment other than jobs such as in "Human Resources".
Once there, they create an enclave of like thinking people, until the culture of the business has virtually been taken over.
This type of left-wing political coup has happened in the Australian ABC, and so much for diversity of thought.
It is a problem in many businesses these days, EA, the computer game entertainment company, being just another victim. That left-wing culture virtually destroyed Battlefield 5 because of the SJW interference.
You have to hand it to the left of politics.
They plan ahead.
Human resources have to a large extent, been taken over by the political left who favour positive discrimination towards minority groups.
From what I heard, graduates from some humanities courses have few opportunities to find employment other than jobs such as in "Human Resources".
Once there, they create an enclave of like thinking people, until the culture of the business has virtually been taken over.
This type of left-wing political coup has happened in the Australian ABC, and so much for diversity of thought.
It is a problem in many businesses these days, EA, the computer game entertainment company, being just another victim. That left-wing culture virtually destroyed Battlefield 5 because of the SJW interference.
You have to hand it to the left of politics.
They plan ahead.
Sorry, this seems like some sort of conspiracy theory against inclusivity, and not liking how culture is changing for everyone to be given a shot. Wanting "diversity of thought" over actual diversity, when I have an idea of what types of thoughts many people want diversified, which are the types that want to be allowed to discriminate.
07 Dec 2020, 7:41 pm
Pepe wrote:
I have answered this before but I will have a second bite.
Human resources have to a large extent, been taken over by the political left who favour positive discrimination towards minority groups.
From what I heard, graduates from some humanities courses have few opportunities to find employment other than jobs such as in "Human Resources".
Once there, they create an enclave of like thinking people, until the culture of the business has virtually been taken over.
This type of left-wing political coup has happened in the Australian ABC, and so much for diversity of thought.
It is a problem in many businesses these days, EA, the computer game entertainment company, being just another victim. That left-wing culture virtually destroyed Battlefield 5 because of the SJW interference.
You have to hand it to the left of politics.
They plan ahead.
Human resources have to a large extent, been taken over by the political left who favour positive discrimination towards minority groups.
From what I heard, graduates from some humanities courses have few opportunities to find employment other than jobs such as in "Human Resources".
Once there, they create an enclave of like thinking people, until the culture of the business has virtually been taken over.
This type of left-wing political coup has happened in the Australian ABC, and so much for diversity of thought.
It is a problem in many businesses these days, EA, the computer game entertainment company, being just another victim. That left-wing culture virtually destroyed Battlefield 5 because of the SJW interference.
You have to hand it to the left of politics.
They plan ahead.
I always liked Vox Day's "five stages of corporate convergence."
Convergence describes the degree to which an organization prioritizes social justice. There are five stages of corporate convergence:
1. Infiltrated. The corporation has been entered by people devoted to social justice, but they do not have any significant influence or authority within the company. Employees are hired, fired, and promoted on the basis of either merit or connections. The marketing tends to reflect the company's products and services.
2. Lightly Converged. The social justice infiltrators have begun to move into their preferred areas, such as Human Resources and Marketing, but they don't have any real influence over the corporation's policies or corporate strategies. The company starts to make occasional noises about "outreach" and "diversity", but doesn't actually change its employment practices. The marketing is still mostly about the company's products, but now features improbably diverse scenarios.
3. Moderately Converged. Social justice advocates now control Human Resources, which is used as a corporate high ground to exert influence over other departments as well as the executive team. The corporate marketing begins to devote more attention to signaling corporate virtue than selling its products. Managers are encouraged to hire diverse candidates and to stop holding low-performance employees accountable. HR begins holding mandatory awareness sessions and hiring diversity consultants. The corporation's customer service begins to go downhill.
4. Heavily Converged. Social justice advocates now control the corporate high ground and the strategic centers. Significant elements of the executive team and the board are devoted to social justice, often in a very public manner. Implicit hiring quotas are imposed and it becomes almost impossible to fire anyone for anything short of murder in the workplace. HR openly dictates corporate policy to employees, often without consulting the executives. The marketing materials not only signal corporate virtue, but openly advocate various social justice issues. The corporation shows indifference to its core customer base and begins to obsess over new markets that mostly exist in its imagination.
5. Fully Converged. The corporation devotes significant resources to social causes that have absolutely nothing to do with its core business activities. Human Resources is transformed into a full Inquisition, imposing its policies without restraint and striking fear into everyone from the Chairman of the Board on down. The CEO regularly mouths social justice platitudes in the place of corporate strategies and the marketing materials are so full of virtue-signaling and social justice advocacy that it becomes difficult to tell from them what the company actually does or sells. The corporation now shows open contempt for its customers.
07 Dec 2020, 7:48 pm
I work in a fortune 500 in an autism group & you're dead wrong about that where any serious engineering firm is concerned. Have some respect for what you don't know.
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07 Dec 2020, 8:07 pm
Pepe wrote:
I have answered this before but I will have a second bite.
Human resources have to a large extent, been taken over by the political left who favour positive discrimination towards minority groups.
From what I heard, graduates from some humanities courses have few opportunities to find employment other than jobs such as in "Human Resources".
Once there, they create an enclave of like thinking people, until the culture of the business has virtually been taken over.
This type of left-wing political coup has happened in the Australian ABC, and so much for diversity of thought.
It is a problem in many businesses these days, EA, the computer game entertainment company, being just another victim. That left-wing culture virtually destroyed Battlefield 5 because of the SJW interference.
You have to hand it to the left of politics.
They plan ahead.
Saying things doesn't make then true
It's a great story. But just cos you tell it doesn't make it become real.
You can say whatever you want. It's still not true.
It is at least interesting though. Imagination is a wonderful gift.
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