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10 Aug 2021, 10:47 am

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Don’t forget Latin America and what the conquistadors did.


BTW, Weren't some of the SA tribes vicious and murderous?

Once again, the problem is humanity/huwomanity, and not various white tribes.
Not rocket surgery. 8)

Yes, but I didn’t want to let the conquistadors get off without a mention.


I did not suggest they should.
There is plenty of inhumanity to go around.
*That* is my point.

Some just like to play "politics" and pretend that it is only the white tribes who are guilty.
A self-evident nonsense to any reasonable person.
Perhaps WP should create a rule preventing such bastardisation of the Truth?

Simple minds virtue signal.
What can I say? :shrug:
I am not suggesting you are one of "those". :eew: :mrgreen:

I like a complete list.
The list of man’s inhumanity to man is a long one and it probably started with one upright ape bashing another one on the head for a banana.
The stakes are higher now and the saga continues.We have more effective ways of taking the bananas we want.

That is exactly what happened in Stanley Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey. One of the greatest films of all Time! Except the primates were fighting over the water hole.



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10 Aug 2021, 12:23 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Don’t forget Latin America and what the conquistadors did.


BTW, Weren't some of the SA tribes vicious and murderous?

Once again, the problem is humanity/huwomanity, and not various white tribes.
Not rocket surgery. 8)

Yes, but I didn’t want to let the conquistadors get off without a mention.


I did not suggest they should.
There is plenty of inhumanity to go around.
*That* is my point.

Some just like to play "politics" and pretend that it is only the white tribes who are guilty.
A self-evident nonsense to any reasonable person.
Perhaps WP should create a rule preventing such bastardisation of the Truth?

Simple minds virtue signal.
What can I say? :shrug:
I am not suggesting you are one of "those". :eew: :mrgreen:

I like a complete list.
The list of man’s inhumanity to man is a long one and it probably started with one upright ape bashing another one on the head for a banana.
The stakes are higher now and the saga continues.We have more effective ways of taking the bananas we want.

That is exactly what happened in Stanley Kubrick's 2001 A Space Odyssey. One of the greatest films of all Time! Except the primates were fighting over the water hole.

I love that film.We are just better dressed,have better hairstyles ,and more efficient weapons now.
Nothing has changed.


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10 Aug 2021, 3:36 pm

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That toy you are holding is one of the biggest reasons America exists. You know it, I know it. Stop pretending.


What do guns have to do with anything in this thread, and/or the existence of America? (and again with the psychic powers regarding what other people know, it's a remarkable gift)


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10 Aug 2021, 3:45 pm

If it's any consolation Canada is even worse to First Nations people, just look at the mass graves they've found in the past few months. I've know for years that other Canadians hate First Nation people for some stupid reason, but this is just beyond evil and everyone knows it and I wish I was never born here. I know I'm just a filthy white parasite and an invasive species and I never should have been born here.



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10 Aug 2021, 3:46 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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Weren't some of the SA tribes vicious and murderous?


Indeed. I'm not sure it justifies barbaric aggression with the justification of civilizing those people.

I'm sure there's incidents of violence between the people on North Sentinel Island, they also violently reject contact. That doesn't make forcing some outside definition of civilization on them a morally justifiable action to undertake.

You could insert any of the uncontacted peoples from South America into there instead if you prefer, if they've violently rejected contact. In those cases most of them have just retreated further because loggers with rifles tend to be the people they're most likely to make contact with.

Don’t forget Jehovah’s Witness and other groups trying to “ save them.”


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10 Aug 2021, 6:11 pm

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Gee, reading this thread makes me think that I have got to be the laziest evil caucasian on the planet. I haven't got my arse off the couch long enough to oppress, subjugate, exploit, or victimize anyone of any color. Man, my ancestors must be so ashamed of me.


You live in Tulsa Oklahoma right? You might be living on land stolen from black businesses who were burnt down in 1921. I'm sure that will bring a smile to your ancestors hearts.



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10 Aug 2021, 6:14 pm

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That toy you are holding is one of the biggest reasons America exists. You know it, I know it. Stop pretending.


What do guns have to do with anything in this thread, and/or the existence of America? (and again with the psychic powers regarding what other people know, it's a remarkable gift)


Murica was founded by invasion from soldiers with guns. You didn't think It wasn't "terra nullius" did yah and the pilgrims arrived with flowers and shared friendly dances with the natives and sang kumbayah?,



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10 Aug 2021, 6:43 pm

Misslizard wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Weren't some of the SA tribes vicious and murderous?


Indeed. I'm not sure it justifies barbaric aggression with the justification of civilizing those people.

I'm sure there's incidents of violence between the people on North Sentinel Island, they also violently reject contact. That doesn't make forcing some outside definition of civilization on them a morally justifiable action to undertake.

You could insert any of the uncontacted peoples from South America into there instead if you prefer, if they've violently rejected contact. In those cases most of them have just retreated further because loggers with rifles tend to be the people they're most likely to make contact with.

Don’t forget Jehovah’s Witness and other groups trying to “ save them.”


The JeHos and other preachy types are only a threat because they might carry diseases that humans originally caught from livestock.

Those zoonotic diseases are deadly to peoples who haven't been exposed.


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10 Aug 2021, 7:19 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Weren't some of the SA tribes vicious and murderous?


Indeed. I'm not sure it justifies barbaric aggression with the justification of civilizing those people.

I'm sure there's incidents of violence between the people on North Sentinel Island, they also violently reject contact. That doesn't make forcing some outside definition of civilization on them a morally justifiable action to undertake.

You could insert any of the uncontacted peoples from South America into there instead if you prefer, if they've violently rejected contact. In those cases most of them have just retreated further because loggers with rifles tend to be the people they're most likely to make contact with.

Don’t forget Jehovah’s Witness and other groups trying to “ save them.”


The JeHos and other preachy types are only a threat because they might carry diseases that humans originally caught from livestock.

Those zoonotic diseases are deadly to peoples who haven't been exposed.

If that didn’t kill you the preaching would.


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10 Aug 2021, 8:11 pm

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Murica was founded by invasion from soldiers with guns. You didn't think It wasn't "terra nullius" did yah and the pilgrims arrived with flowers and shared friendly dances with the natives and sang kumbayah?,


What country does this not apply to? Setting aside the fact that disease killed most of the native Americans, not guns, this is a particularly odd take coming from an Australian (though not this particular Australian).


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10 Aug 2021, 8:14 pm

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If that didn’t kill you the preaching would.


I don't particularly mind even if I don't agree. They're not violent like the earlier waves of preachy people so as long as they don't expect to be fed and if they didn't bring disease I'm not sure I'd care.


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10 Aug 2021, 8:20 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
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If that didn’t kill you the preaching would.


I don't particularly mind even if I don't agree. They're not violent like the earlier waves of preachy people so as long as they don't expect to be fed and if they didn't bring disease I'm not sure I'd care.

When my daughter was in Guatemala there was an evangelist preaching in the village square using a loud speaker.It just about drove everyone crazy.Went on for hours and hours.
They were taking collections from the poor people.I think they were paying to try and get him to stop so he could move on and torment the next village.


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10 Aug 2021, 8:25 pm

Misslizard wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
If that didn’t kill you the preaching would.


I don't particularly mind even if I don't agree. They're not violent like the earlier waves of preachy people so as long as they don't expect to be fed and if they didn't bring disease I'm not sure I'd care.

When my daughter was in Guatemala there was an evangelist preaching in the village square using a loud speaker.It just about drove everyone crazy.Went on for hours and hours.
They were taking collections from the poor people.I think they were paying to try and get him to stop so he could move on and torment the next village.


Well, to torment uncontacted people he'd need to bring a generator and the rest of his gear to them, so that might be more of an issue for people in the city. :P

Still gets annoying though.


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10 Aug 2021, 9:22 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
If that didn’t kill you the preaching would.


I don't particularly mind even if I don't agree. They're not violent like the earlier waves of preachy people so as long as they don't expect to be fed and if they didn't bring disease I'm not sure I'd care.

When my daughter was in Guatemala there was an evangelist preaching in the village square using a loud speaker.It just about drove everyone crazy.Went on for hours and hours.
They were taking collections from the poor people.I think they were paying to try and get him to stop so he could move on and torment the next village.


Well, to torment uncontacted people he'd need to bring a generator and the rest of his gear to them, so that might be more of an issue for people in the city. :P

Still gets annoying though.

They will use a chicken bus then go on foot, a diseased pack animal will carry the generator and fuel.


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10 Aug 2021, 9:39 pm

Mr Reynholm wrote:
Gee, reading this thread makes me think that I have got to be the laziest evil caucasian on the planet. I haven't got my arse off the couch long enough to oppress, subjugate, exploit, or victimize anyone of any color. Man, my ancestors must be so ashamed of me.



For a while now, I've been thinking that this would be a good time to be a lazy supervillain.

PERSON: *Walks down street.*

SUPERVILLAIN: *Jumps out from alley wearing outlandish costume.* Halt, citizen! Tremble in terror before the ultimate 21st Century supervillain: Existing Man! My evil superpower is...that I exist!

PERSON: Gasp! You fiend! In the five seconds I've known you, I've worked out a chain of causality that makes you responsible for every evil thing ever to happen in the entire world!

EXISTING MAN: Thank you, citizen! You've saved me a lot of trouble! Now I've bested every other supervillain and I didn't even have to lift a finger! Such is the power of...EXISTING MAN! Bwahahahahahahaha! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!



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10 Aug 2021, 9:55 pm

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Murica was founded by invasion from soldiers with guns. You didn't think It wasn't "terra nullius" did yah and the pilgrims arrived with flowers and shared friendly dances with the natives and sang kumbayah?,


What country does this not apply to? Setting aside the fact that disease killed most of the native Americans, not guns, this is a particularly odd take coming from an Australian (though not this particular Australian).


Just addressing the topic. Was America's history as bad as Nazi Germany. The answer is yes if you were a native American or African American.

Australia is off topic.