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08 Sep 2021, 11:26 am

Why are we pretending that being exploited, or being left to starve is a right to be proud of and grateful for? Smh.


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08 Sep 2021, 11:30 am

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A lot depends on where you live in America.Rural, suburbs or urban.
In rural areas the crime is low,even with high gun ownership.People may be poor in income ,but many own their own land so have no rent.It might be a crappy trailer house ,but it’s theirs’s.They can grow a garden, pick berries ,hunt or fish to save money on groceries.Cut firewood to sell and burn for heat.No water bill if you have a well or spring.Property taxes are lower.No building inspection so you can build what you want in some places.I’ve never seen a homeless person or panhandler in my small town.
My medicine and all medical bills are paid so I can’t complain about that.I also have a medical marijuana card.
I have several guns and they are tools.I’ve had to put down a few sick deer and it was more humane than letting them stagger around dying.
On the downside ,our gas is a bit higher and you will drive a least an hour to get to a hospital.Everything closes after nine so you better not need gas or ciggs.
If you get badly hurt in a remote area you may ride in the air-evac helicopter instead of an ambulance to the hospital.
We have one grocery store so shopping is limited.
The roads can be bad, mine kept sliding off it they finally fixed it.Rural areas have small budgets so it might take awhile to get things fixed.

Regarding Canada I'll bet many parts of rural Canada are exactly like that, even when guns are taken into consideration. I'd be curious what a Canadian might have to say about that.


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08 Sep 2021, 11:32 am

Misslizard wrote:
A lot depends on where you live in America.Rural, suburbs or urban.
In rural areas the crime is low,even with high gun ownership.People may be poor in income ,but many own their own land so have no rent.It might be a crappy trailer house ,but it’s theirs’s.They can grow a garden, pick berries ,hunt or fish to save money on groceries.Cut firewood to sell and burn for heat.No water bill if you have a well or spring.Property taxes are lower.No building inspection so you can build what you want in some places.I’ve never seen a homeless person or panhandler in my small town.
My medicine and all medical bills are paid so I can’t complain about that.I also have a medical marijuana card.
I have several guns and they are tools.I’ve had to put down a few sick deer and it was more humane than letting them stagger around dying.
On the downside ,our gas is a bit higher and you will drive a least an hour to get to a hospital.Everything closes after nine so you better not need gas or ciggs.
If you get badly hurt in a remote area you may ride in the air-evac helicopter instead of an ambulance to the hospital.
We have one grocery store so shopping is limited.
The roads can be bad, mine kept sliding off it they finally fixed it.Rural areas have small budgets so it might take awhile to get things fixed.


I live in a small rural town in the deep south myself and I can vouch for all this.


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08 Sep 2021, 11:42 am

King0fSpades wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
A lot depends on where you live in America.Rural, suburbs or urban.
In rural areas the crime is low,even with high gun ownership.People may be poor in income ,but many own their own land so have no rent.It might be a crappy trailer house ,but it’s theirs’s.They can grow a garden, pick berries ,hunt or fish to save money on groceries.Cut firewood to sell and burn for heat.No water bill if you have a well or spring.Property taxes are lower.No building inspection so you can build what you want in some places.I’ve never seen a homeless person or panhandler in my small town.
My medicine and all medical bills are paid so I can’t complain about that.I also have a medical marijuana card.
I have several guns and they are tools.I’ve had to put down a few sick deer and it was more humane than letting them stagger around dying.
On the downside ,our gas is a bit higher and you will drive a least an hour to get to a hospital.Everything closes after nine so you better not need gas or ciggs.
If you get badly hurt in a remote area you may ride in the air-evac helicopter instead of an ambulance to the hospital.
We have one grocery store so shopping is limited.
The roads can be bad, mine kept sliding off it they finally fixed it.Rural areas have small budgets so it might take awhile to get things fixed.


I live in a small rural town in the deep south myself and I can vouch for all this.


I know people who live in rural Appalachia. They are poor but don't have food issues because they can produce their own.



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08 Sep 2021, 11:53 am

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King0fSpades wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
A lot depends on where you live in America.Rural, suburbs or urban.
In rural areas the crime is low,even with high gun ownership.People may be poor in income ,but many own their own land so have no rent.It might be a crappy trailer house ,but it’s theirs’s.They can grow a garden, pick berries ,hunt or fish to save money on groceries.Cut firewood to sell and burn for heat.No water bill if you have a well or spring.Property taxes are lower.No building inspection so you can build what you want in some places.I’ve never seen a homeless person or panhandler in my small town.
My medicine and all medical bills are paid so I can’t complain about that.I also have a medical marijuana card.
I have several guns and they are tools.I’ve had to put down a few sick deer and it was more humane than letting them stagger around dying.
On the downside ,our gas is a bit higher and you will drive a least an hour to get to a hospital.Everything closes after nine so you better not need gas or ciggs.
If you get badly hurt in a remote area you may ride in the air-evac helicopter instead of an ambulance to the hospital.
We have one grocery store so shopping is limited.
The roads can be bad, mine kept sliding off it they finally fixed it.Rural areas have small budgets so it might take awhile to get things fixed.


I live in a small rural town in the deep south myself and I can vouch for all this.


I know people who live in rural Appalachia. They are poor but don't have food issues because they can produce their own.



My mom works but she also collects disability benefits and food stamps from me and my brother as we are both disabled.

Without foodstamps we probably wouldn't eat. I think it would be wise to learn how to grow or collect food in the wild because I often fear that something like what happened during the Great Depression is just around the corner thanks to this pandemic.

I think what really worries me is that people in America today are a lot more selfish and mean-spirited than they were during the last Great Depression when people actually helped each other out to survive. I think if we experience another one we are screwed... :|


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08 Sep 2021, 12:50 pm

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In a David Pakman segment yesterday talking about vaccines, he referenced some mandated vaccine law from ~1918 where the US Supreme Court ruled that freedoms granted under the constitution stopped when said freedom impacted someone else' safety, and thus the mandatory vaccine law stood in order to protect others. Apparently that vaccine mandate law is probably going to become a hot topic as time rolls forward and the current Pandemic Of The Unvaccinated needs to end asap.
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i can understand this point of veiw clearly .
And in a ideal society it might be the thing to do . But , In Ben Franklins time the ideal of Natural Selection , was prevalent , and so creatures would die off as time went on . Removing the less healthy
Out of the Herd. And the strongest in the herd survived . This is / was a law of Nature .
But when you add corporate survival into the mix. You get preversions of Nature . The idea of
vaccines was a great advancement in science . But occassionally corporate greed outweighs
the good of mankind . And the methods used to insure income to the corporations become their method of survival . These are not necessarily based on human values .
Governments value the corporations and use them in many ways . Including media based campaigns.
So the Government values the abilities of these corporations . And this cross connect, does not mean the interests of humans are in the Governments best interest . Think Corporate greed. Backed by governmental entities . ( This is only offered as a thought exercise.)


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08 Sep 2021, 1:21 pm

King0fSpades wrote:
Axeman wrote:
King0fSpades wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
A lot depends on where you live in America.Rural, suburbs or urban.
In rural areas the crime is low,even with high gun ownership.People may be poor in income ,but many own their own land so have no rent.It might be a crappy trailer house ,but it’s theirs’s.They can grow a garden, pick berries ,hunt or fish to save money on groceries.Cut firewood to sell and burn for heat.No water bill if you have a well or spring.Property taxes are lower.No building inspection so you can build what you want in some places.I’ve never seen a homeless person or panhandler in my small town.
My medicine and all medical bills are paid so I can’t complain about that.I also have a medical marijuana card.
I have several guns and they are tools.I’ve had to put down a few sick deer and it was more humane than letting them stagger around dying.
On the downside ,our gas is a bit higher and you will drive a least an hour to get to a hospital.Everything closes after nine so you better not need gas or ciggs.
If you get badly hurt in a remote area you may ride in the air-evac helicopter instead of an ambulance to the hospital.
We have one grocery store so shopping is limited.
The roads can be bad, mine kept sliding off it they finally fixed it.Rural areas have small budgets so it might take awhile to get things fixed.


I live in a small rural town in the deep south myself and I can vouch for all this.


I know people who live in rural Appalachia. They are poor but don't have food issues because they can produce their own.



My mom works but she also collects disability benefits and food stamps from me and my brother as we are both disabled.

Without foodstamps we probably wouldn't eat. I think it would be wise to learn how to grow or collect food in the wild because I often fear that something like what happened during the Great Depression is just around the corner thanks to this pandemic.

I think what really worries me is that people in America today are a lot more selfish and mean-spirited than they were during the last Great Depression when people actually helped each other out to survive. I think if we experience another one we are screwed... :|

People used to feed each other, if someone got hurt or sick and couldn’t work people brought food to the family, helped with chores.There would be cake walks and pie suppers to raise money for the family in need.I don’t see that happening as much as the older generation dies out.It’s a shame.
I get 48 dollars on my EBT card, it covers stuff like coffee, corn meal,four etc.., the basics.


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08 Sep 2021, 8:19 pm

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Why are we pretending that being exploited, or being left to starve is a right to be proud of and grateful for? Smh.

Pride comes from giving people the freedom to make their own choices, not from the consequences of those choices.


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09 Sep 2021, 12:51 am

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Now you guys know why I want to get out of my country! Why else would I take up to learning several different languages!


If French is one of them maybe you could score extra brownie points for an application to Canada.


But Canada has a habit of copying American politics, so we are likely to go down the same hole eventually.



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09 Sep 2021, 1:03 am

regarding living in this America: There are much worse places, i am quite sure. :roll:


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09 Sep 2021, 1:15 am

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regarding living in this America: There are much worse places, i am quite sure. :roll:



There indeed are. But you know? I don't want us to ever end up as bad as some of these countries that are worse than we are.

And I have a feeling once Trump's shadow government takes over that's exactly the path we will be headed down.


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09 Sep 2021, 5:44 am

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regarding living in this America: There are much worse places, i am quite sure. :roll:



There indeed are. But you know? I don't want us to ever end up as bad as some of these countries that are worse than we are.

And I have a feeling once Trump's shadow government takes over that's exactly the path we will be headed down.


You have a warped view of Mexico. It's a dangerous third world country run by extremely corrupt politics and police and the people just accept it as the way things are. Yes the people have a wonderful culture but I don't think you would want to live there.



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09 Sep 2021, 6:26 am

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Come to the UK. You don't need job skills or even any money and you'll get free health care and be given a council house. All you will need is a passport.

Is that true? I'd imagine you'd have to be a British subject or some sort of refugee. Perhaps pre-Brexit, other Europeans could have also done those things. But I find it dubious that an American could show up in the UK and get free healthcare, the right to work, and council housing (what we'd call Section 8 housing in the USA).



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Come to the UK. You don't need job skills or even any money and you'll get free health care and be given a council house. All you will need is a passport.

Is that true? I'd imagine you'd have to be a British subject or some sort of refugee. Perhaps pre-Brexit, other Europeans could have also done those things. But I find it dubious that an American could show up in the UK and get free healthcare, the right to work, and council housing (what we'd call Section 8 housing in the USA).

I think her point is that any sort of foreigner can go there and get benefits that are denied to working class British subjects.


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regarding living in this America: There are much worse places, i am quite sure. :roll:



There indeed are. But you know? I don't want us to ever end up as bad as some of these countries that are worse than we are.

And I have a feeling once Trump's shadow government takes over that's exactly the path we will be headed down.


You have a warped view of Mexico. It's a dangerous third world country run by extremely corrupt politics and police and the people just accept it as the way things are. Yes the people have a wonderful culture but I don't think you would want to live there.


At least I don't have a warped view of the USA. I don't imagine this country to be the Utopian epitome of perfection and freedom like the right does, but I also no longer believe this country to be so irredeemably racist, sexist, homophobic, and evil like the left does.

I haven't completely lost my mind in regards to my own country like so many other Americans apparently have lately. :roll:


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09 Sep 2021, 9:26 am

King0fSpades wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
A lot depends on where you live in America.Rural, suburbs or urban.
In rural areas the crime is low,even with high gun ownership.People may be poor in income ,but many own their own land so have no rent.It might be a crappy trailer house ,but it’s theirs’s.They can grow a garden, pick berries ,hunt or fish to save money on groceries.Cut firewood to sell and burn for heat.No water bill if you have a well or spring.Property taxes are lower.No building inspection so you can build what you want in some places.I’ve never seen a homeless person or panhandler in my small town.
My medicine and all medical bills are paid so I can’t complain about that.I also have a medical marijuana card.
I have several guns and they are tools.I’ve had to put down a few sick deer and it was more humane than letting them stagger around dying.
On the downside ,our gas is a bit higher and you will drive a least an hour to get to a hospital.Everything closes after nine so you better not need gas or ciggs.
If you get badly hurt in a remote area you may ride in the air-evac helicopter instead of an ambulance to the hospital.
We have one grocery store so shopping is limited.
The roads can be bad, mine kept sliding off it they finally fixed it.Rural areas have small budgets so it might take awhile to get things fixed.


I live in a small rural town in the deep south myself and I can vouch for all this.


The places where I grew up in rural Kansas and Nebraska are also like that. People from large cities visiting there would go crazy because there is nothing exciting for them to do. My aunt and uncle’s farm is twenty miles from the nearest small town. They can pickup a grand total of three over-the-air channels at their location on a good day, one at best on a bad day. They enquired about getting cable tv once, but the $300/month cost stopped them cold. Most of the local businesses are monopolies and can charge whatever their market price can bear. A gallon of milk can easily cost $5 or more at the one grocery store, so they have cows that they milk instead. You learn to become independent or do without for so many things. Every time I visit them, I feel like I have went back in time at least eighty years.

The country could go to pot and they would not know about it until they went to market with some of their livestock to sell. They live a much simpler way of life.