I’m fed up with people not liking vaccine mandates

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I was "pushy and adamant" about others getting the vaccine because I personally knew over 30 people who had died from covid in the last two years, and I did not want to lose any more friends, relatives, or coworkers.

This is sort of a continuation of my thread in the haven on Wednesday in regards to the political stuff that’s been driving me crazy. As I said in that thread, I completely blew up when my dad told me to take responsibility when I got screwed over by the upper management of my work. But there were other underlying things that had been bothering me about him and other people of his side of the family, in fact that further fueled how upset I was at him. A lot of that is political, which is what I’m gonna talk about.

As we all know, there are many people who have refused to get vaccinated, most likely for 2 reasons. 1. It could be bc of what they’re taught at their church. Or 2. It could be bc they take what is said on Fox News more seriously than licensed medical professionals. Or it could be both. Either way, it’s nauseating to think how delusional these people are to the point that they can’t do the right thing during a PANDEMIC and about the drastic measures people are willing to take, like quitting their jobs, to avoid getting vaccinated.

Now, there are also people out there who are pro-vaccine, but anti-mandate. Here’s my issue with that stance: Basically, they are pandering to people who think that getting vaccinated isn’t what’s best for them, a decision that could possibly KILL them and has killed many anti-vaxxers. Furthermore, there’s also the people who are influenced by said anti-vaxxers, and THEY become anti vaxxers too, a way of brainwashing that could KILL them. Also, the pro-vaccine, anti mandate crowd also thinks that anti-vax parents, who are not medical workers, SHOULD have the final say in whether or not their kids get vaccinated, which could get some kids KILLED.

And Fox News and other “sources” that spew out conspiracy bull crap play a big role in all that. I’m sure these same people either don’t realize or are perfectly fine with the damage they’re all doing.

Now, my dad and my uncle all both pro vax, anti mandate. I’ve heard my uncle in especially ramble about how awful vaccine mandates are. My uncle actually stated that he had gotten vaccinated to protect his mom(my grandmother). So he does understand the importance of the vaccine. But if one wants to live dangerously and not get vaxxed, it’s alright.

I love my dad and my uncle and I don’t want to be annoyed by them, but being aware of the dangers of their opinions makes that harder for me. I want to have a better relationship with my dad and my step mom, the two people I currently live with, but there’s a lot of things they say that annoy me, whether it’s political or something that invalidates the frustration I have about something.

Thank you all for taking the time to read this. There’s so many outside forces that are challenging my state of mind.

Where is the harm? The only time and reason for me to get vaxx'd was to advance the vaccine immunity and did not make sense to me with natural immunity. That failed when it became apparent vaxxed people were getting and giving covid. You also need natural immunity to achieve herd immunity, actually boosts it, IIRC.

I say the same about people who choose to drink, choose to smoke, choose to do drugs, choose to make any bad choices in general, their body, their choice. Let them get cancer, let them risk their death, let them premature age, let them get addicted and face the consequences. Their choice. I just have a harder time having sympathy for these people and I don't see them as victims.

I recall a few users saying in this thread about us being Nazis and sociopaths for wishing death on others, I'm too lazy to go back and look who said it. I have never seen anyone online say "I hope those anti vax die." Saying "let them choose to die sooner" is different than wishing death on them.

long covid as excuse for vax mandates is ..unfounded and unproved.
first, can you cite me several peer revieved studies proving that something like long covid exists, and is caused by covid?

As it taking a "vaccine" designed to artificially protect against a virus when you have already suffered from the virus and acquired natural protection from that same virus, wouldn't you say?

I also didn't see anyone (except yourself) in this thread claiming anyone was trying to "get a disease" - the discussion seemed to be about those who had already (previously) had the disease.

am I seriously the only one with a relative wearing a tin-foil hat so big they are aiming to get infected and a "recovered"-status rather than any vaccine?

I recall a few users saying in this thread about us being Nazis and sociopaths for wishing death on others, I'm too lazy to go back and look who said it. I have never seen anyone online say "I hope those anti vax die." Saying "let them choose to die sooner" is different than wishing death on them.

Saying "let them choose to die sooner" is different than wishing death on them.