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31 Dec 2023, 4:08 pm

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This system is to solve loneliness, loneliness because the poor and the rich can not be together, the solution is to build a system to resist all forces that do not allow them to be together. Is that what you mean?
If so, is there a possibility that nothing will stop them from being together?


Yes! That is the main goal of MAROF. To solve Loneliness!

Bro, you don't seem to understand my last sentence, I mean, your enemy does not exist. :?Or maybe it's private ownership itself, and you should be further to the left, closer to me


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31 Dec 2023, 4:08 pm

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It sounds like you just want to get rid of loneliness, guess why these people are called autistic. If this is your purpose, treat it! Treat it as a disease and get rid of it.

This. It's been working well for me for the last decade or so. I have more friends, more money, more sex etc. It requires discipline and hard work, but it's far simpler and easier to treat one's own disease than it is to restructure all of society to allow for an easier life for the diseased.


Yes. Discipline and hard work! It is also what MAROF expects! No lazy couples! Everyone must be productive and be one the move. Also, eugenics vibes detected. The "restructuring" will cure the disease but no one will be killed because there will be no involuntary euthanasia on lonely people.

Eugenics vibes? :roll:

Medicine; Hippocrates style. "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food."

I'm talking about actually treating ASD symptoms at their* root digestive cause in the intestines/colon.

*It is possible there are multiple causes of autism and that what works for me won't work for everyone. But based on reading medical studies indicating that there is a food sensitivity that 70% of people on the spectrum have, I believe this to be the cause of 70%+ of ASD cases and in my experience it is treatable.


Completely off-topic now that you've mentioned food.

I have ASD and I don't think medicine is enough to treat an autistic person. Autistic people like us also need comfort not just from medicine but from friends, partners, and families. I'm not establishing MAROF for the sake of only giving autistic people privileges. Once everyone has an opportunity for a friendship and relationship, no one will be privileged.


I have ASD and I've been utilizing food & supplements as natural medicine for the last decade or so and I Know that it is enough to treat me and raise my functioning level dramatically, resulting in way more friends, social connections, work, money, sex life etc because ASD symptoms are no longer strong enough to constrain me from enjoying those things. It's been a bit like "turning on the social circuitry," and being able to much more intuitively navigate the social world as if I were more NT than ASD. Still not a cure and not perfect as I have ups and downs and some of them have resulted in losing jobs and things like that, but overall my life is night and day better for it.

Loneliness isn't really much of a concern. I have more friends that I care to spend time with sometimes. I've become a part of the community at the beach over the last 9 years or so and know hundreds and hundreds of people there - maybe 1000+ by face and name. Some of them have become very good friends. I have other beach friends from the kiteboarding community. I have some motorcycle riding friends. Coworkers/old coworkers, people I've met via Facebook groups etc etc. I don't have a partner as I've never clicked with someone where it was truly mutual attraction and we decided to be together, and maybe that never happens - oh well - but I most certainly have every other form of relationship. Family, friends, God kids, slu*ty friends with benefits etc.

It requires discipline and hard work to heal oneself from the inside out, literally, but it is far easier to focus on self care and self improvement for a few years of eating medicinal chicken soups and healing herbs and probiotic supplements etc than it is to create an entirely new system of socialization and get the world to adopt it. This conversation is very similar to countless others on these forums where people want better autistic acceptance... okay, cool story - but never in a Million years are people going to accept so-called "unacceptable," behaviours from others. It's a far better approach to heal the root cause of ASD neurological misfirings and get signals to send from the gut up the vagus nerve to the brain more reliably and in turn improve one's own level of social functioning in order to better fit into society than it is to somehow magically convince all of society to accept the "unacceptable." And from my personal experience it is worth it. Change yourself and improve the rest of your life. Alternatively you might opt to drive yourself nuts trying to change 7-8 Billion other people instead. Which is more probable? Choose wisely.


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31 Dec 2023, 4:09 pm

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^^ Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation of what doesn't equal the cause of what?


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31 Dec 2023, 4:12 pm

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Alternatively you might opt to drive yourself nuts trying to change 7-8 Billion other people instead. Which is more probable? Choose wisely.

In fact, he was discussing some of the shortcomings of capitalism that he imagined had little to do with autism.


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31 Dec 2023, 4:15 pm

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^^ Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation of what doesn't equal the cause of what?
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But based on reading medical studies indicating that there is a food sensitivity that 70% of people on the spectrum have, I believe this to be the cause of 70%+ of ASD cases and in my experience it is treatable.


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31 Dec 2023, 4:22 pm

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^^ Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation of what doesn't equal the cause of what?
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But based on reading medical studies indicating that there is a food sensitivity that 70% of people on the spectrum have, I believe this to be the cause of 70%+ of ASD cases and in my experience it is treatable.

Feel free to read up on salicylate acid sensitivity and its causes and then refute my statement if you like.


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31 Dec 2023, 4:23 pm

That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.


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31 Dec 2023, 4:24 pm

belijojo wrote:
Yugoslav1945 wrote:
belijojo wrote:
This system is to solve loneliness, loneliness because the poor and the rich can not be together, the solution is to build a system to resist all forces that do not allow them to be together. Is that what you mean?
If so, is there a possibility that nothing will stop them from being together?


Yes! That is the main goal of MAROF. To solve Loneliness!

Bro, you don't seem to understand my last sentence, I mean, your enemy does not exist. :?Or maybe it's private ownership itself, and you should be further to the left, closer to me


I want this specifically practiced in a socialist state. MAROF does not tolerate Capitalism. Capitalism is our enemy. Our enemies are also the fascists. What Capitalism does to lonely people? They make them pay ludicrous amounts of money. What does fascism do? They recruit lonely people into incels so that they can unleash terror and barbaric rampages on the working class!


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31 Dec 2023, 4:25 pm

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Alternatively you might opt to drive yourself nuts trying to change 7-8 Billion other people instead. Which is more probable? Choose wisely.

In fact, he was discussing some of the shortcomings of capitalism that he imagined had little to do with autism.

The worst part of capitalism is its complete imbalance with nature. It is literally impossible to have never ending growth and take ever increasing amounts of natural resources from the Earth for profit and not completely throw the entire system of growth and re-growth of natural resources all out of whack. That's what we're experiencing now with human induced climate change, fish stocks depleting, forests receding etc. Human stupidity of taking resources in excess of what the Earth can provide, far in excess of what we Need to live in balance with the planet. And that's why humanity deserves to collectively mostly die off for its stupidity of biting the hand that feeds. Too stupid to live = gotta go, mofos.


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31 Dec 2023, 4:26 pm

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belijojo wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Alternatively you might opt to drive yourself nuts trying to change 7-8 Billion other people instead. Which is more probable? Choose wisely.

In fact, he was discussing some of the shortcomings of capitalism that he imagined had little to do with autism.

The worst part of capitalism is its complete imbalance with nature. It is literally impossible to have never ending growth and take ever increasing amounts of natural resources from the Earth for profit and not completely throw the entire system of growth and re-growth of natural resources all out of whack. That's what we're experiencing now with human induced climate change, fish stocks depleting, forests receding etc. Human stupidity of taking resources in excess of what the Earth can provide, far in excess of what we Need to live in balance with the planet. And that's why humanity deserves to collectively mostly die off for its stupidity of biting the hand that feeds. Too stupid to live = gotta go, mofos.


Finally, someone has got the understanding of what evil capitalism does to humanity.


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31 Dec 2023, 4:30 pm

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That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Plenty of evidence. I'm not here to google and read for you.

Salicylate sensitivity is caused by leaky gut, which is caused by overgrowth of intestinal yeast and other micro-organisms perforating the intestinal walls. Cleanse the intestines and heal the intestinal lining and you reduce/eliminate the acid sensitivity. The sensitivity is not The Cause of all ASD symptoms, but it most certainly does contribute to anxiety, depression, and audio sensitivity - all of which I experienced to the extreme and then minimized by introducing the minerals I was deficient in in order to excrete the excess acids. I later learned the cause of the sensitivity and how to treat it.

I didn't compose the ASD studies I cited stating that 70% of people on the spectrum have salicylate acid sensitivity, it's simply fact, and Why I believe the root cause of such a high % of ASD cases is digestive in nature. I'm far from the only human to believe so, either. I just googled to find one of the studies I referenced and found a much newer one with updated information. I don't have time to read it right now as I've committed to going to the beach with friends right now, but I plan on reading it later or tomorrow/next day and then I'll likely make a thread in the general autism discussion forum about it.

Again, feel free to read up on any of this and refute my statement(s).


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31 Dec 2023, 4:30 pm

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belijojo wrote:
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Alternatively you might opt to drive yourself nuts trying to change 7-8 Billion other people instead. Which is more probable? Choose wisely.

In fact, he was discussing some of the shortcomings of capitalism that he imagined had little to do with autism.

The worst part of capitalism is its complete imbalance with nature. It is literally impossible to have never ending growth and take ever increasing amounts of natural resources from the Earth for profit and not completely throw the entire system of growth and re-growth of natural resources all out of whack. That's what we're experiencing now with human induced climate change, fish stocks depleting, forests receding etc. Human stupidity of taking resources in excess of what the Earth can provide, far in excess of what we Need to live in balance with the planet. And that's why humanity deserves to collectively mostly die off for its stupidity of biting the hand that feeds. Too stupid to live = gotta go, mofos.

ha? Are you also a leftist?


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31 Dec 2023, 4:31 pm

Yugoslav1945 wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
belijojo wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Alternatively you might opt to drive yourself nuts trying to change 7-8 Billion other people instead. Which is more probable? Choose wisely.

In fact, he was discussing some of the shortcomings of capitalism that he imagined had little to do with autism.

The worst part of capitalism is its complete imbalance with nature. It is literally impossible to have never ending growth and take ever increasing amounts of natural resources from the Earth for profit and not completely throw the entire system of growth and re-growth of natural resources all out of whack. That's what we're experiencing now with human induced climate change, fish stocks depleting, forests receding etc. Human stupidity of taking resources in excess of what the Earth can provide, far in excess of what we Need to live in balance with the planet. And that's why humanity deserves to collectively mostly die off for its stupidity of biting the hand that feeds. Too stupid to live = gotta go, mofos.


Finally, someone has got the understanding of what evil capitalism does to humanity.

:heart: :heart: :heart: 8)


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31 Dec 2023, 4:32 pm

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I want this specifically practiced in a socialist state. MAROF does not tolerate Capitalism. Capitalism is our enemy. Our enemies are also the fascists. What Capitalism does to lonely people? They make them pay ludicrous amounts of money. What does fascism do? They recruit lonely people into incels so that they can unleash terror and barbaric rampages on the working class!

Capitalism is sick, feed socialism with medicine :lol:People in socialist countries will spontaneously care about other people's marital status, which you may not understand.


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31 Dec 2023, 4:40 pm

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I want this specifically practiced in a socialist state. MAROF does not tolerate Capitalism. Capitalism is our enemy. Our enemies are also the fascists. What Capitalism does to lonely people? They make them pay ludicrous amounts of money. What does fascism do? They recruit lonely people into incels so that they can unleash terror and barbaric rampages on the working class!

Capitalism is sick, feed socialism with medicine :lol:People in socialist countries will spontaneously care about other people's marital status, which you may not understand.


Yes. MAROF will exist for a reason.


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31 Dec 2023, 8:22 pm

belijojo wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
belijojo wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Alternatively you might opt to drive yourself nuts trying to change 7-8 Billion other people instead. Which is more probable? Choose wisely.

In fact, he was discussing some of the shortcomings of capitalism that he imagined had little to do with autism.

The worst part of capitalism is its complete imbalance with nature. It is literally impossible to have never ending growth and take ever increasing amounts of natural resources from the Earth for profit and not completely throw the entire system of growth and re-growth of natural resources all out of whack. That's what we're experiencing now with human induced climate change, fish stocks depleting, forests receding etc. Human stupidity of taking resources in excess of what the Earth can provide, far in excess of what we Need to live in balance with the planet. And that's why humanity deserves to collectively mostly die off for its stupidity of biting the hand that feeds. Too stupid to live = gotta go, mofos.

ha? Are you also a leftist?

Mostly, yes.


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