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03 Nov 2005, 6:43 am

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That supremacy of the military has also kept alot of people's bitchy, ret*d asses from speaking, German, Japaneese, Russian, Chineese, and Arabic!

so... your admitting that its a matter of intimidation then?

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03 Nov 2005, 6:47 am

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3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the peoples attention from other problems, to shift blame forfailures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions.

lets see... al qaeda?

Al Qaeda are our enemy. They are not scapegoats.
Are you implying that they don't exist?! !

Actually... yes i am. I would not be suprised at all if Osama Bin Laden was a CIA operative and the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated as an excuse for certain western countries to invade the Middle East (where theres guess what? lots of oil) and adopt fascist policies

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03 Nov 2005, 6:48 am

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Now, she could spin a globe, close her eyes, put her finger on the globe, and order a nucear strike on the coordinates where her finger are at an probably not hit anything worth giving a crap about.

I find it kinda scary that you talk about the abilty to casually nuke a country like its a good thing...

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03 Nov 2005, 6:55 am

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recognized as a waste of space in the prision system, waste of air, and needs to be gotten rid of?

Sean... NOBODY is a waste of air

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03 Nov 2005, 7:03 am

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Wherever there is oppression, people will always rise up. It's only a matter of time.

Only if people stop thinking "itll inevitably happen sooner or later, no need for me to get involved", and actaully do sumat about it.

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03 Nov 2005, 8:32 am

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Bush and the current administration is the tip of the ice-berg.

While we are all labeling this group with all the problems, we are not seeing the
"man behind the curtain."

Fascism will go marching on no matter who we throw out.
Bush is a puppet, a figurehead for the elite.

I agree. Bush simply isnt smart enough to lead a country by himself, let alone pull off a scheme like the one i sed a few posts erlier about the 9/11 attacks... theres deffintly someone else behind the scenes

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03 Nov 2005, 8:34 am

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kevv729 wrote:

Sean

President Bush is going to be all right. No matter what anybody says about him. He is just that way.

Don't be so sure. He is on a very slippery slope.

Mithrandir is right though. Bush is merely the public face of a much larger problem. We must think of new ways to defeat the elite.

I say we tax the corporate elite into the ground, and when they refuse to pay, we chuck 'em in jail. We can nationalise their companies by force if necessary!! !

i agree about restricting corporations more, but some arent that bad.

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03 Nov 2005, 8:38 am

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[an emphasis on -perfect- conduct, -school pride-, and -loyalty-.
Thus setting today's youths up for a similarly run political administration.

Yes. It starts at school. Which is why the defiance has to start there to, or [oppression*] will be accepted at a national level as well.

*edited from "it", which, after re-reading, I thought could be misinterpreted to mean defiance rather than oppression.

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03 Nov 2005, 8:51 am

jb814 wrote:

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5136

that article wrote:

The president's lawyers stress that America is at war and that the "laws of war" are now in effect. By "laws of war," they mean that the president has assumed broad powers as commander-in-chief so that he can "protect the country." The constitutional rights of the citizenry, in this view, are no longer the law of the land. A federal appellate court has now validated this ominous paradigm of military law.

dunno about Animal Farm, that sounds more like a Star Wars scenario... (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/palpatine/index.html)

the profile of Palpatine on the Star Wars site wrote:

The Separatists didn't agree. Upon the discovery of a secret army of droids, it became apparent that the Separatists were on the verge of declaring war against the Republic. To counter this, the Republic needed a military, and Palpatine required the authority to activate the Republic's newly forged army of clones. To that end, Senators loyal to Palpatine motioned that the Chancellor be given emergency powers to deal with the Separatist threat.

With spoken regrets, Palpatine accepted the new mantle of power. He promised to return his absolute authority to the Senate after the emergency subsided. What no one realized was that the galaxy would undergo further upheaval, and that a state of crisis would ensure Palpatine's authority for decades.

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03 Nov 2005, 12:41 pm

Klytus wrote:

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lets see... al qaeda?

Al Qaeda are our enemy. They are not scapegoats.
Are you implying that they don't exist?! !

Al-Qaeda are our enemy, but that still doesn't contradict the third item on the list.

Look at the topic sentence again:
3. Identification of ENEMIES/scapegoats as a unifying cause.

Also, if you look at the explanation, America's 'War on Terror' also makes sense. Instead of having people focus on problems in the US, the governmet diverts the American citizen's attention on things like terrorism. The government does this to cover up its own mistakes, and the government is using it as a unifying cause.

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03 Nov 2005, 1:57 pm

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Today I came across an article called 'Fascism, Anyone?' by Laurence W. Britt. Britt studied several fascist governments. He studied Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Franco's Spain, Salazar's Portugal, Papadopoulos's Greece, Pinochet's Chile, Suharto's Indonesia.

He missed out 2 very important ones. Bush's America and Brown/Blair's Britain

Errrrrrrrm ... no. Britt didn't forget about Bush. The whole point of his article was to suggest that Bush's America might be on the road towards becoming a fascist state. I've already mentioned how ridiculous I think this is, but even more ridiculous is your idea: that America already is a fascist state.
If America really were a fascist state, do you think you'd have people like Michael Moore making millions out of anti-government propaganda?

Anyway, since you think that Osama Bin Laden is working for the CIA (ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!! !! !! !), I think I'll just leave it at that.

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03 Nov 2005, 2:08 pm

Bec wrote:

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lets see... al qaeda?

Al Qaeda are our enemy. They are not scapegoats.
Are you implying that they don't exist?! !

The "war on terror" as a unifying cause is not the reason Bush went to war in Iraq; rather it is the reason why leftists are so obsessively against the Iraq war. Since most leftists always oppose the status quo, they cannot bring themselves to offer even the tiniest amount of support for a war effort (the war on terror that is, not just the war in Iraq) that might run and run.

If the US government really decided to wage a "war on terror" as a unifying cause, then, for some people, it clearly hasn't worked. They must have known this was likely given the influence of idiots like Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore and other leftist media types.

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03 Nov 2005, 7:20 pm

Klytus wrote:

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Look at the topic sentence again:
3. Identification of ENEMIES/scapegoats as a unifying cause.

Also, if you look at the explanation, America's 'War on Terror' also makes sense. Instead of having people focus on problems in the US, the governmet diverts the American citizen's attention on things like terrorism. The government does this to cover up its own mistakes, and the government is using it as a unifying cause.

Did you read the explanation of the third part? This is the most important part that applies: ... a means to divert the peoples attention from other problems. The only time the country has been worse off was during the Great Depression. What does George W. Bush think he should do? 'Let's go to war so people forget that my administration and I are screwing up America.'

As for some people opposing the war, 'unifying cause' doesn't necessarily mean that everyone supports it. Do you honestly think that every citizen who has lived in a facist country supported war? No! That is much more ridiculous than claiming Osama Bin Laden works for the CIA.

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04 Nov 2005, 8:38 am

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[I have yet to hear that the secret police have broken down any of their doors and dragged them away into the night, never to be heard from again.

Thats becos, as you say, they were "never to be heard from again"...

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04 Nov 2005, 8:41 am

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As for terrorism, no, they're not being 'scapegoated', since they do commit heinous crimes in the name of their beliefs.

If your talking about the 9/11 attacks, i no i cant exactly say the same about the Twin Towers, but the Pentagon WAS a ligitimate target (probably THE most ligitimate target in the modern world...)

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