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19 May 2008, 12:24 pm

That's your solution? Shoot anyone who disagrees with you?

Good fellowship isn't a mean or petty thing. Have you experienced good fellowship for yourself?

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19 May 2008, 12:29 pm

Not mine. I'm not religious. Just look at Iraq where the Shiites and the Sunnis are slaughtering each other for centuries. I don't have a gun nor do intend getting one. I am merely appalled at the useless slaughter when people are dying of diseases and starvation for the lack of human good sense.

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19 May 2008, 12:52 pm

As am I. But you can't blame everything on religion just because you don't like it. That's wrong.

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19 May 2008, 1:11 pm

Everything? Did I imply everything? Are you satisfied that just those problems involving religious disagreements are negligible?

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19 May 2008, 1:16 pm

Not literally everything!

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19 May 2008, 1:25 pm

How many problems are simply caused by the vices of mankind
compared to
how many are caused by religious disagreement?

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19 May 2008, 1:41 pm

To assume that religion is not merely another avenue for vice and a very dangerous one indeed is to be totally blind to the events, both current and throughout history, that clearly demonstrate this.

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19 May 2008, 2:00 pm

Sand wrote:

Does that sum it up. Each one is convinced of their own personal solution and since there is no conceivable way to come to a general agreement the blather goes on? I suppose in more dynamic venues guns are pulled and people who disagree are blasted out of existence. So much for religion and good fellowship.

"It is impossible to have a rational discussion with a man who prefers shooting you over being convinced by you"

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Blind faith and the rejection of reason leads inevitably to violence.

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19 May 2008, 2:02 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

How many problems are simply caused by the vices of mankind
compared to
how many are caused by religious disagreement?

Religion encourages irrationalism and blind faith, which serve to amplify the vices of mankind.

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19 May 2008, 2:29 pm

Atheism does nothing to save mankind from these ills.

It can't, because it offers nothing.

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19 May 2008, 2:45 pm

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Atheism does nothing to save mankind from these ills.

It can't, because it offers nothing.

Why not? Your opposition would argue that by offering nothing it removes the problem caused by bad offers.

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19 May 2008, 2:46 pm

A bad offer is better than no offer, isn't it?

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19 May 2008, 2:54 pm

Odin wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

How many problems are simply caused by the vices of mankind
compared to
how many are caused by religious disagreement?

Religion encourages irrationalism and blind faith, which serve to amplify the vices of mankind.

Some religions do, but are you willing to claim that Christianity does? Truly though, anything can be used as an excuse, but it is when people seek to justify what they want to do rather than do what they know they should that people have used the Bible to justify what they desire.

The idea that "any interpretation is valid" leads to a lot of crap...

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19 May 2008, 3:25 pm

If you think Christianity is totally innocent you simply have not been paying attention.

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19 May 2008, 3:27 pm

I've been paying attention. I have been a Christian my whole life, you ass. And never have I suggested that Christianity was totally innocent. :roll:

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19 May 2008, 3:38 pm

Temper, temper! Read your own post carefully and understand its implications. Peace be with you.

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