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Umm.... to be honest, I think there is a contradiction in there. To be part of a collective, there must be limits on the individuality such that unity remains. If there were no unity, then either we have a very rich collective, or we wouldn't have one at all, but rather individuals.

Really though, as is, you already engage in economic activities which take inputs and information to put them in a broader perspective.

I don't know Halo.


The very notion that a society exists already presupposes that.


Yes, ok, people do not act how you'd like.

They likely get that amount because that is somewhat reflective of what they are seen as being able to do for a given project. An actor's name can pull in lots and lots of money just by itself, so, what is being bought is the name. Doesn't the actor have the right over his name? Perhaps we would want this money to go elsewhere, but if we accept that the original owner of it has it legitimately, and that the actor legitimately bargained for it, then then outcome must be legitimate as well.

Oh yes, I have heard of how much company directors get paid. A major issue in payment is doing something that other productive people decide is worth their money. If people loved charity, then charities would be where the money would be at. People do not care as much though.

As for the power of the rich before the law... yeah, that is sort of sucky. You should also keep in mind what Scientology does too. It sues people in order to drain them of their money. Like, they don't have to have a real case, they can just sue the crap out of people to ruin them. If there is an abuse of law, then that would be one of them.

Realy there should be choice, we should get to chose things, but then there are some things that can be taken out of personal choice ie healthcare. Well the idea to take it out of choice is to look at the fact that if these people were in the same position of those who can not afford it then they would agree. what defense can a lot of the lower people have, who do you like more a lucky celebrity or an unlucky homeless person, and then move that from minimal wage earner, to a more higher paid person. Some things should be taken out of choice as many do not understand what it is like to be at the bottom.

....and no religion too, well at least before DS9
the no money thing, only if replicator technology is developed, perhaps then, it could be possible

Why should anything be beyond personal choice?

Why should the selfishness of man be an argument against the selfishness of man?

People may be jerks, they may even be blatantly ignorant jerks, but I don't see that to be an excuse for removing choice.

It would be nice if less management acted that way to peons though. I've worked in retail, fast food, and a warehouse. If you are under some people's authority, they know it and use it.

I am not surprised at all. People suck.

People from Canada and France seem to be more sane.

GRRR I am back can't sleep!! !! !!

Anyways I think people in Canada and France are more sane because they don't pour toxins like sewege into the drinking water I am just kidding of course I don't really know but they do seem more sane.

Anyways lets just pray George W. Bush does not open up an insurance company those poor souls would be screwed.

Well at least we can be good.

Ha! It's a good thing I don't live in America! Guns, violence, and no medical! You get shot by some hood, you're on your own!
Have cancer? No worries! Just give us your life savings, and we MIGHT extend your life by a couple months!
Lost a leg? Well, at least you still have the one!

Really, though - for a wealthy nation like America, the poverty rate, unemployment, and, above all - lack of any real medical systems for all citizens. Your politicians must get their head into the game, and provide you with proper services! Hound their asses until they do.

Unemployment? I thought America was considered to have a low unemployment rate compared to many nations. I mean, I guess I have heard the argument that a lot of the difference is methodology, I have not seen many people use the argument.

Hey Ishmael u watching dr who?

Trust me I won't let them get any sleep, now then do you think 8 million angry people marching into the capital would convince them or should I bring another million or two????

Well if you can get a large enough then they should listen they are meant to be representing the people.

And if that doesn't work: Paramilitary! I've got some blokes you can hire. They mostly do kneecappings and blackmail, but they'll happily shoot someone to remind them how important proper medical can be



Ah, the doctor. Just when you thought anybody speaking with a british accent couldn't be cool... the actor's scottish, though.