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26 Aug 2008, 9:07 pm

You don't have to be Aspie to be confused, but it helps.



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26 Aug 2008, 9:39 pm

Everybody now (yeah, yeah)
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26 Aug 2008, 10:40 pm

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zeitgeist is garbage.


I'm amazed. Usually, people will stand with whoever is on their side regardless of how idiotic they are. Congratulations, you've earned some respect points.



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27 Aug 2008, 10:26 am

skafather84 wrote:
z0rp wrote:
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zeitgeist is garbage.

How so?


there's a couple decent points but the majority of it uses vague wording to try and connect points and sometimes misrepresent names and facts to actually show their point.


if you can't get it right, that kind makes your argument worthless.

Well to be honest, I only watched the religion part of it as I don't really know or care if 9/11 or the other thing they talked about are conspiracies and in the first part I found it interesting nonetheless, and I did look up a few things online afterwards and didn't exactly find the things that interested me to be wrong as presented in the video so I'm satisfied. xD

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There's a point. Life is contradictory and illogical, which is why so many Aspies have trouble with it.

I dislike the way you attempt to separate Aspies with everyone else, most people in general have trouble with life at different times. And really when I look at life it's not really contradictory (depends which way you use that word) or illogical at all.



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11 Feb 2011, 6:10 pm

God is imaginary. Well, the idea of God being invisible suggests to me that God is imaginary or that God has a very good patent on a cloaking device. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaking_device -



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11 Feb 2011, 9:17 pm

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It is easy to prove to yourself that God is imaginary. The evidence is all around you. Here are 50 simple proofs:

http://godisimaginary.com/


Imagine that.

It would ALMOST be worth clicking to see what you consider PROOF that something is imaginary.

Might be nice to have a simple way to prove something is real.



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11 Feb 2011, 10:24 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Usually, conservative christians will stand with whatever belief regardless of how idiotic it is.


Fixed.



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11 Feb 2011, 11:08 pm

z0rp wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
z0rp wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
zeitgeist is garbage.

How so?


there's a couple decent points but the majority of it uses vague wording to try and connect points and sometimes misrepresent names and facts to actually show their point.


if you can't get it right, that kind makes your argument worthless.

Well to be honest, I only watched the religion part of it as I don't really know or care if 9/11 or the other thing they talked about are conspiracies and in the first part I found it interesting nonetheless, and I did look up a few things online afterwards and didn't exactly find the things that interested me to be wrong as presented in the video so I'm satisfied. xD


What did you find online that makes you think the information provided by the liar Acharya S is based on facts?



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12 Feb 2011, 9:23 pm

the bible claims Unicorns exist

Job 39:9-12 (King James Version)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?

12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?


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12 Feb 2011, 9:31 pm

TheKing wrote:
the bible claims Unicorns exist

Job 39:9-12 (King James Version)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?

12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?


The KJV was a...mrm, not always accurate...translation made by people who quite possibly believed that unicorns existed. My translation reads 'wild ox'.


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12 Feb 2011, 9:48 pm

TheKing wrote:
the bible claims Unicorns exist

Job 39:9-12 (King James Version)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?

12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?


I don't think the ancient Jews believed in unicorns.

They believed in beasts like Leviathan and Behemoth, though. Probably due to seeing some interesting fossil bones that could only belong to big monstrous animals.



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12 Feb 2011, 9:53 pm

MCalavera wrote:
TheKing wrote:
the bible claims Unicorns exist

Job 39:9-12 (King James Version)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?

12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?


I don't think the ancient Jews believed in unicorns.

They believed in beasts like Leviathan and Behemoth, though. Probably due to seeing some interesting fossil bones that could only belong to big monstrous animals.


Like the Cyclops: possibly/probably due to finding a mastadon(?) skull with a gaping hole where the trunk was.


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12 Feb 2011, 10:09 pm

Coffie isn't even close to prooveing or disprooveing anything for me. Yes, it makes me see and think paranoid things at night. :coffee: :roll: (I was being serious, you know. :?) I wish it did make me see that kind of God, instead of threatening, deadly insects from the shadows.
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12 Feb 2011, 10:32 pm

Natty_Boh wrote:
TheKing wrote:
the bible claims Unicorns exist

Job 39:9-12 (King James Version)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?

12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?


The KJV was a...mrm, not always accurate...translation made by people who quite possibly believed that unicorns existed. My translation reads 'wild ox'.


Sorry, old chap - your faulty research is showing. Mind you, I would not know without a check if I had not looked into it following up a ruveyn post a little back.

Here's what I done say:

The Septuagint [and I have NO idea what the alleged 70 Jewish fathers who produced that Greek translation thought they were doing] translates monokeros - Einhorn except in Isaiah 34 where it comes out hadroi - the fat ones. Go figure. The Syriac translation kindly retains the Hebrew word - a lot of the Syriac OT is supposed to be a straight Jewish Targum anyway.

Jerome here has to answer for his failings - he is all over the board. In Isaiah where the Septuagint does NOT use monokeros he has unicorns; in Job he actually gives us as rhinoceros. WHAT was he thinking? We know he hated Hebrew [not just Hebrew, Semitic in general, too many uncouth sounds he could not get his tongue around. We also know in places there was pressure on him to be more traditional thasn accurate in his translation, I suspect he listened to his language tutors with their Palestinian Greek and then figured hey, it is fantastical poetry, who cares about sense? A bad attitude - but it is plausible.

And, face it, most Alexandrian Jews are going to have seen more rhinoceronts than aurochs. Their ideas on what the critter is [check out behemoth some time - that is even cuter] wetre likely pretty fuzzy.

I am told there are parts of Africa where there are no lions [too much jungle, not enough savannah - yes, Savannah, there is a Georgia] but people know the word, know it means a kind of mythic animal, and can draw you a picture that has SOME things in common with a lion. Traditions can persist.

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So, cut some slack for the KJV committee - I have a lot of fellow feeling for Jerome, but KJV was just following suit.



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12 Feb 2011, 10:39 pm

Natty_Boh wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
TheKing wrote:
the bible claims Unicorns exist

Job 39:9-12 (King James Version)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?

11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him?

12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?


I don't think the ancient Jews believed in unicorns.

They believed in beasts like Leviathan and Behemoth, though. Probably due to seeing some interesting fossil bones that could only belong to big monstrous animals.


Like the Cyclops: possibly/probably due to finding a mastadon(?) skull with a gaping hole where the trunk was.


That's actually a possibility now that you mention it. But I think it was also the ancient Greeks having a very creative mind. You can tell by reading their mythological stories.



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12 Feb 2011, 10:59 pm

@Philogos -

I have been schooled. I'll lay off on the KJV, for want of further schooling.


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