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Not only do they make rainbows, but those rainbows can be photograped.


Vapour trails, or 'Contrails' have been a common occurrance since the advent of the jet-turbine engine in the 1940's. And they have been 'officially' documented in textbooks ever since.


Beck is a high-school dropout, a Scientologist, and an admitted drug abuser. Needless to say, these place his knowledge of actual scientific phenomena in a questionable light.

I should add, these are not the same as the natural 'sun dog'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundog

I'll go for 2, 6, 9, and 10, please.

Again, I'm not talking about normal 'sun dogs' (parhelia).

Of course contrails have been pretty common since then, but we aren't talking about contrails, are we? There is a very big difference and it's pretty clear what that is to anyone who has a set of eyes and can go outside once in a while.

And I'm not talking about Beck, I'm talking about the fact that for this to be made into a song by a rock star as big as he is - love him or hate him - it can hardly be classed as something obscure that a minority of people wearing tin huts sit around talking about at Star Trek conventions, or whatever it is you imply.

Neither am I.


Then explain the "big difference" between contrails and "chemtrails" in terms that even the least of us can understand.


I imply nothing. I am saying that Beck is as ignorant of the facts as any other high-school dropout, Scientologist, or drug abuser. In other words, Beck is not expert on the subject.

So, for the record, the mere fact that a song is written about a topic does not make that topic any more valid than dragons, unicorns, and faeries at the bottom of the garden.

And since you brought up the tinfoil-hat crowd, they are exactly the kind of people who pull such concepts as "chemtrails" and other urban myths out of their rectal sphincters, and then look for any reason - no matter how invalid - to believe in them.

Sorry.



You said water vapor doesn't cause rainbows, but it does. It condenses in the atmosphore and refracts the light, scattering the wavelengths.

You are not being rational about this ShawnWilliam, Not one effing bit!
There are OTHER EXPLANATIONS for what was seen on the videoo you showed us and UNTIL you can come up with something
more that rules those out you will continue to recieve rebuttals of your claims EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS REQUIRE EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE. What you have shown is not extraordinary in the least! You're frustrated that we are questioning your claims and not having blind faith in you and while that may be understandable on your part, thats how it is so deal.Keep trying............

You're telling me that if a plane drops 200 feet then the water vapor doesn't go away? you're telling me that thick contrails are randomly appearing now more ever then they used to, after they've normally practiced making them put out invisible contrails as someone mentioned?
Don't you think that's backwards technology?.. they have the power to make invisible contrails, someone already said this. I didn't say it, someone else did.

Look, it's pretty simple. This is happening now way more than ever before, and one only need to look at photos from the past, and compare them to photos of today, and there are checker boards in the sky, there never used to be, because planes never used to do this.. water vapor goes away eventually. The chemtrails stick, and stay, and they come in groups.. they dont show up one at a time, they come in groups..

Simon says add 2+2.. that's how simple this is. If you seriously want to debate this further then you have serious problems..


the issue, once again, is NOT whether or not these are chemtrails!.. The issue is why, how, when, where..

You're an ant.. shoe *wafts you away*

Your posts get more and more out-there every day. Chemtrails are goddamned vapor trails. They're made of carbon dioxide and water vapor. The reason why they're dangerous is because they contribute to global warming, not because the Illuminati/New World Order/Elders of Zion/Opus Dei/Jesuits want to kill us all.

Seriously, what's easier to believe: those trails are just vapor trails produced by airplanes, or some sinister group is spraying chemical agents to kill us all? Occam's Razor, dude.

I think that's pretty obvious, if you'd read a thing anyone had written. If you need me to explain the difference I really don't think you're qualified to comment, let alone be so dismissive?




Again, I'm not talking about Beck. It would be exactly the same as if the song was a song by Metallica or the Rolling Stones or the Ting Tings or Mariah Carey, or anyone else in between. It's become well enough known for a superstar to write a song about it. That's the point. You're being deliberately obnoxious now.

I should also point out that he's not trying, claiming, or anything else to be an expert on the subject, and again, just to reiterate, in case this wasn't clear enough the first two times I've said it (because you tend to need to repeat things on here since you don't actually read people's posts), neither did I say he did. Stop attributing words to people they've never said. He's written a pop song. It has lyrics. These are they:

I can’t believe what we’ve seen outside
You and me watching the jets go by
Oh, oooh, oh
Oh, oooh, oh

Down by the sea so many people’ve
Already drowned
You and me watching the sea full of people
Try not to drown

So many people, so many people
Where do they go?
You and me watching the sky full of chemtrails
That’s where we can float

All I can take from these skies is fog
And all I can see in this light are boats sinking
Oh, oooh, oh
Oh, oooh, oh

Down by the sea
Swallowed by evil they’ve already drowned
You and me watching the sea full of people
Who’ve already drowned

So many people, so many people
Where do they go?
You and me hit by a test of white evil rain
Watching the jet planes go by

You and me watching
You and me watching
Chemtrails form swelling behind
That’s what I mean when we got in the slipstream
We’re climbing a hole in the sky





As for pulling things out of proverbials, there's no need - look up. Seriously. Look up. Plain as day.

The gubbermint does a lot of things badly, but they are good at keeping secrets. To date, no one knows how Chobham armor is made or exactly how the B-2 Spirit hides itself.

So why do they bombard people with super secret New World Order 'chemtrails' (whose purpose and composition you have yet to identify) in broad fucking daylight?

Oh and Beck sucks btw

For the love of God, I have never mentioned the New World Order, and especially not in this thread! Get over this putting words in people's mouths and using your imagined ideas of what people say to 'insult' them. It's extremely tiresome to say the least and does not in any way contribute to a healthy discussion!!

And once again, I AM NOT COMMENTING ON BECK.

I know this is waaaaay off topic but, LeKiwi, what is that in your avatar? It is very pretty but I cannot figure out what it is.

I'll PM you.

(Keep the mystery for anyone else, hehe).

Peacock feathers?