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Awesomelyglorious
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17 Oct 2008, 9:11 pm

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Now you have me interested. What is so wrong with the Baptists?

Baptists are noted for being the strictest denomination of Christianity and many of the figures on the Religious Right are affiliated with the Baptists in some form or fashion, like Mike "God's Candidate" Huckabee was a Southern Baptist preacher. Most other denominations are either less conservative, or significantly less common.

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The Baptists are likely the most responsible group for the intellectual failures of Christianity. Interestingly enough though, I learned about "Apparent Age Theory"(a YEC idea) from a teacher in a Methodist church(he may have been studying under the Baptists though), and I heard about the interpretation of "behemoth" in Job 40:15 as a dinosaur coexisting with man from a Bible student who was from that same Methodist church. So, I would not consider this all to just be Baptists, as once again, I think the PCA has members who support ID as well.

As for issues of Bible interpretation, I think the Baptists do tend to be stricter. That being said, Greg Boyd, and I think some other Open Theists are in a Baptist denomination(not Southern Baptist though), so not all of them can be that terrible, however, Greg Boyd is certainly a conservative theologian(very Bible literalist in orientation, the man himself is a pacifist and an anarchist).

As for the KJV issue, I don't think that is a majority of Baptists. Some of the more extreme ones, yes, but I think most Baptists are not KJV only people. However, I think that a number of the KJV only people are Baptists.



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17 Oct 2008, 9:12 pm

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I'm going to bet Texas/Oklahoma region actually, based on some other things you've mentioned. But even in such areas as those, I'm surprised to hear that you've met more PCA people than PCUSA.

Hmm... interesting.

Well, it is all based upon what people you run into. Not necessarily the relative geographic distribution.



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18 Oct 2008, 11:44 am

Christanity maintains that people are special, that we are not only fudamentally different from animals but that we are above them spirtually as well as physically. It places humanity as the center focus of Gods universe which really botheres me; and so I reject such a belief. The Lovecraftian doctrine is FAR closer to reality, that we as human beings are just an instant in eternity and are cosmically irrelevant. :wink:



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18 Oct 2008, 2:46 pm

Haliphron wrote:
Christanity maintains that people are special, that we are not only fudamentally different from animals but that we are above them spirtually as well as physically. It places humanity as the center focus of Gods universe which really botheres me; and so I reject such a belief. The Lovecraftian doctrine is FAR closer to reality, that we as human beings are just an instant in eternity and are cosmically irrelevant. :wink:


http://esr.ibiblio.org/index.php?p=135

http://www.fredvanlente.com/cthulhutract/pages/



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18 Oct 2008, 3:20 pm

Ugh.



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18 Oct 2008, 6:36 pm

Christian and misanthrope?

I was thinking about a passage today in the Bible where Jesus said it is not the healthy who need the doctor but the sick. If Christ came to be a doctor to the hurting and the spiritually lost, how could He ever do it out of hatred? Hatred couldn't inspire a man to sit among prostitutes and cheating tax collectors and save them from a detrimental spiritual condition, or even let Himself be nailed to a cross to save them from their sins. John 3:16 states God so loved the world to give His only son to save it from perishing. The next verse states Jesus did not come to judge or send it at that moment to its final reward, but to save anyone who wanted to be. When it comes to sharing my faith, this is the attitude I try and take; that is, I love all those around me, saved and unsaved, though I may not think or act the same way.

I'd have to say no to misanthropy.



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18 Oct 2008, 9:44 pm

Capriccio wrote:
Christian and misanthrope?

I was thinking about a passage today in the Bible where Jesus said it is not the healthy who need the doctor but the sick. If Christ came to be a doctor to the hurting and the spiritually lost, how could He ever do it out of hatred? Hatred couldn't inspire a man to sit among prostitutes and cheating tax collectors and save them from a detrimental spiritual condition, or even let Himself be nailed to a cross to save them from their sins. John 3:16 states God so loved the world to give His only son to save it from perishing. The next verse states Jesus did not come to judge or send it at that moment to its final reward, but to save anyone who wanted to be. When it comes to sharing my faith, this is the attitude I try and take; that is, I love all those around me, saved and unsaved, though I may not think or act the same way.

I'd have to say no to misanthropy.


As would I. And I thank you for speaking out on this as a Christian.



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20 Aug 2011, 9:09 am

I think Christianity and Misanthropy could go together for the soul purpose that, We have the freedom of religion which means we can combine or take any religion we want. It's not all about one religion we can have one and then have a different set of beliefs.



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31 Aug 2011, 4:06 pm

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Is it (even remotely)possible to be a Christian and a misanthrope?


Yes, especially if they've had to deal with jerks for most of their lives and yet still cannot help but to consider Christianity to be correct. That is the manner in which a person can be a Christian and also find themselves unable to escape misanthropy. It's one thing to forgive another voluntarily, but it's quite another to have forgiveness demanded.



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31 Aug 2011, 6:46 pm

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But misanthropy without a doubt is TOTALLY contrary to the creed of Catholicism.


Trust me on this, it's not.


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31 Aug 2011, 7:30 pm

Christianity is not only misanthropic it is ANTIanthropic. It starts off with the premise that Man is Fallen and Sinful and is essentially no damned good. Man is damned and must be saved by Magic.

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