A story by Isaac Asimov (WARNING: Depressing as hell)

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28 Jan 2009, 6:23 pm

Sadness is an emotion indicating some kind of personal loss. I wonder just how personal one can feel about a demise taking place to whatever might exist billions of years in the future. It's reasonable to assume humanity will have long vanished. I would have enjoyed seeing dinosaurs but to actually feel sad about their vanishing hundreds of millions of years ago seems way out of proportion. All of humanity will surely be gone in a matter of a few thousand years at the rate we are destroying Earth's environment. I feel quite sad at the senseless killing of most large animals by humans such as elephants rhinoceroses, tigers, lions, etc. and this is something we can do something about but it seems unlikely.



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28 Jan 2009, 8:14 pm

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I think I see this in a different direction, what I would find sad is being conscious and aware in the moment of doomsday. But as that is far from happening, I don't see much point to it, nevertheless, natural catastrophes do happen and within our lifetime.

The sadness, what exactly covers? the end of the world (life on earth) or the end of the solar system or the end of the galaxy or the end of the universe or all?


The sadness derives from the fact that everything is ultimately futile. All of our suffering and glory shall come to naught. So it goes.

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28 Jan 2009, 10:54 pm

ruveyn wrote:
greenblue wrote:
I think I see this in a different direction, what I would find sad is being conscious and aware in the moment of doomsday. But as that is far from happening, I don't see much point to it, nevertheless, natural catastrophes do happen and within our lifetime.

The sadness, what exactly covers? the end of the world (life on earth) or the end of the solar system or the end of the galaxy or the end of the universe or all?


The sadness derives from the fact that everything is ultimately futile. All of our suffering and glory shall come to naught. So it goes.

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I really don't care what happens after I'm dead. I enjoy being alive and the opinion of the rest of the world about who I was or what I did while alive concerns me not in the least. The pitiful handful of people remembered after a thousand years has very little significance to the world and none at all to the people themselves.



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29 Jan 2009, 9:19 am

Sand wrote:

I really don't care what happens after I'm dead. I enjoy being alive and the opinion of the rest of the world about who I was or what I did while alive concerns me not in the least. The pitiful handful of people remembered after a thousand years has very little significance to the world and none at all to the people themselves.


What Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses did does count for something. That is why infants are not sacrificed to ensure good crops (at least in civilized countries). What Aristotle ( 384 b.c.e - 322 b.c.e.) said and wrote has a great deal of influence on how you think. Euclid (circa 300 b.c.e.) set the mold and form for abstract mathematics which drives the physics which drives the engineering which produces the gadgets you take for granted. Ditto for Archimedes (287 b.c.e. - 212 b.c.e.).

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29 Jan 2009, 9:33 am

ruveyn wrote:
Sand wrote:

I really don't care what happens after I'm dead. I enjoy being alive and the opinion of the rest of the world about who I was or what I did while alive concerns me not in the least. The pitiful handful of people remembered after a thousand years has very little significance to the world and none at all to the people themselves.


What Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses did does count for something. That is why infants are not sacrificed to ensure good crops (at least in civilized countries). What Aristotle ( 384 b.c.e - 322 b.c.e.) said and wrote has a great deal of influence on how you think. Euclid (circa 300 b.c.e.) set the mold and form for abstract mathematics which drives the physics which drives the engineering which produces the gadgets you take for granted. Ditto for Archimedes (287 b.c.e. - 212 b.c.e.).

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You and I are not Plato or Archimedes, or Aristotle. We will disappear like a puff of smoke.



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31 Jan 2009, 7:20 am

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You and I are not Plato or Archimedes, or Aristotle. We will disappear like a puff of smoke.


Speak for your self. I have a few years left to do something Immortal.

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31 Jan 2009, 8:51 am

ruveyn wrote:
Sand wrote:

You and I are not Plato or Archimedes, or Aristotle. We will disappear like a puff of smoke.


Speak for your self. I have a few years left to do something Immortal.

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No Smoking topic

:lol: I concur.


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