15 Mar 2009, 6:52 pm
ZEGH8578 wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
ZEGH8578 wrote:
Henriksson wrote:
ZEGH8578 wrote:
i made one for europe too, but the swede wouldnt like it :]
"Norway" painted all over it, perhaps?
im a fair man, i left "Svealand" to you guys :]
in retrospect, i'd just transfer "both" lappands to the finns. the only reason i split lappland was that it was stupidly shaped
What I find rather *curious* about this map is that it shows Hungary regaining possession of Vojvodina but NOT Transylvania!
WHO created this map? Why is Transylvania autonomous? If Transylvania is no longer going to be part of Romania than Hungary is sure as bloody Hell going to annex it!
Also, there is no way that Croatia and Bosnia will be annexed by Serbia for a looooooooooong time because NATO will respond militarily if Serbia tries to make war or its neighbors ever again.
i made the map, and i made it for my own personal aspie amusement
#1 hungary posesses vojvodina cus of linguistics. transylvania remains free, cus its cool.
#2 transylvania isnt autonomous, its independent. fully, and completely
#3 no, cus i decide what country is free and not
#4 i re-merged most of yugo cus of linguistics. politics suck
#5 who says theyre annex by serbia? maybe i moved the capital to zagreb?
my Q's for you:
why didnt you react to my huge and pointless double lappland?
as i said, the map was made for my own amusement. i posted it here, cus the north american map (NOT the one on the first post, but the other one) is also made by me, and i posted it cus of its relative relevance.
ive gone by linguistics for the most part, also historical borders, cultural differences, local separatism and MY sense of aesthetics
my belgian friend is still all heatrbroken cus i eliminated belgium altogether
It's BRILLIANT ZEGH!!
15 Mar 2009, 7:00 pm
haliphron: i could give moldova to romania, and transnistria to ukraine. i also wanna fuse all of lappland w finland, screw the lapps.
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most of eastern europe could be fixed further, but as dussel points out, it is _IMPOSSIBLE_ to please everyone. impossible!
im in a "meh" mood regarding doing changes to the map for a long time, simply cus ive lost interest in it. i am pretty sure a lot of RUSSIA also has several obvious possible breakaway states within europe.
missconstrue: thank you! :]
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15 Mar 2009, 7:01 pm
15 Mar 2009, 7:09 pm
Dussel wrote:
... and if really the broders in Europe would come to move there could be some surprises: A lot of German cities lost their status as (semi-)independent states between 1795 and 1803. Those cities still remember their history and it could be very well that some will re-emerge, at the larger ones like Augsburg, Frankfurt, Nuremberg, Cologne.
Also: The current borders of the German state are not the historical one, neither they follow the inter-German ethnic borders. States like Kur-Pfalz, Kur-Trier, Hessen-Darmstadt, Wied or Baden could re-emerge.
In this case the map would become very colourful.
Also: The current borders of the German state are not the historical one, neither they follow the inter-German ethnic borders. States like Kur-Pfalz, Kur-Trier, Hessen-Darmstadt, Wied or Baden could re-emerge.
In this case the map would become very colourful.
absolutely, if we go by history, germany becomes a _soup_ of little countries.
any country does. every norwegian county has its foundation in an old independent kingdom, which itself has been created by conquests and further fusions.
i really tickled your geographic/historician nerve with this map, didnt i? always happy to help
its interesting what people still "remember", for example, if you look at the norwegian "bite" off sweden, and denmark's "bite" in the south. there are still both norwegians and danes, even citizens of those parts of sweden, who "remember" that past, and wants it returned.
as a trondheimer myself, i wouldnt mind seeing "east trøndelag" returned to norway ;]
15 Mar 2009, 9:48 pm
ZEGH8578 wrote:
Dussel wrote:
... and if really the broders in Europe would come to move there could be some surprises: A lot of German cities lost their status as (semi-)independent states between 1795 and 1803. Those cities still remember their history and it could be very well that some will re-emerge, at the larger ones like Augsburg, Frankfurt, Nuremberg, Cologne.
Also: The current borders of the German state are not the historical one, neither they follow the inter-German ethnic borders. States like Kur-Pfalz, Kur-Trier, Hessen-Darmstadt, Wied or Baden could re-emerge.
In this case the map would become very colourful.
Also: The current borders of the German state are not the historical one, neither they follow the inter-German ethnic borders. States like Kur-Pfalz, Kur-Trier, Hessen-Darmstadt, Wied or Baden could re-emerge.
In this case the map would become very colourful.
absolutely, if we go by history, germany becomes a _soup_ of little countries.
any country does. every norwegian county has its foundation in an old independent kingdom, which itself has been created by conquests and further fusions.
i really tickled your geographic/historician nerve with this map, didnt i? always happy to help
its interesting what people still "remember", for example, if you look at the norwegian "bite" off sweden, and denmark's "bite" in the south. there are still both norwegians and danes, even citizens of those parts of sweden, who "remember" that past, and wants it returned.
as a trondheimer myself, i wouldnt mind seeing "east trøndelag" returned to norway ;]
Well I see that you gave Macedonia to Bulgaria and you gave the crimean Tartars their own state
. You're right its impossible to please everyone but I really think the chances of Germany willingly fragmenting into independent splinter states are is exactly ZERO. But it seems like most of the most bitter territorial disputes[that is, the ones that could potentially lead to wars] seem to be in the Balkans and possibly central Europe. I have no doubt that Albania will annex Kossovo sooner or later and the Kossovar albanians probably want that to happen.
15 Mar 2009, 10:06 pm
Haliphron wrote:
ZEGH8578 wrote:
Dussel wrote:
... and if really the broders in Europe would come to move there could be some surprises: A lot of German cities lost their status as (semi-)independent states between 1795 and 1803. Those cities still remember their history and it could be very well that some will re-emerge, at the larger ones like Augsburg, Frankfurt, Nuremberg, Cologne.
Also: The current borders of the German state are not the historical one, neither they follow the inter-German ethnic borders. States like Kur-Pfalz, Kur-Trier, Hessen-Darmstadt, Wied or Baden could re-emerge.
In this case the map would become very colourful.
Also: The current borders of the German state are not the historical one, neither they follow the inter-German ethnic borders. States like Kur-Pfalz, Kur-Trier, Hessen-Darmstadt, Wied or Baden could re-emerge.
In this case the map would become very colourful.
absolutely, if we go by history, germany becomes a _soup_ of little countries.
any country does. every norwegian county has its foundation in an old independent kingdom, which itself has been created by conquests and further fusions.
i really tickled your geographic/historician nerve with this map, didnt i? always happy to help
its interesting what people still "remember", for example, if you look at the norwegian "bite" off sweden, and denmark's "bite" in the south. there are still both norwegians and danes, even citizens of those parts of sweden, who "remember" that past, and wants it returned.
as a trondheimer myself, i wouldnt mind seeing "east trøndelag" returned to norway ;]
Well I see that you gave Macedonia to Bulgaria and you gave the crimean Tartars their own state
. You're right its impossible to please everyone but I really think the chances of Germany willingly fragmenting into independent splinter states are is exactly ZERO. But it seems like most of the most bitter territorial disputes[that is, the ones that could potentially lead to wars] seem to be in the Balkans and possibly central Europe. I have no doubt that Albania will annex Kossovo sooner or later and the Kossovar albanians probably want that to happen.yeah, this map IS impossible. every single change i have made. france will NEVER give up territory to brittany, spain would NEVER cede land to neither the basques, portuguese or a catalan state. and so on.
even in obvious cases, as you say, where kosovo "should" be a part of albania (thats why theyre separating from the serbians in the first place, they identify w albania, many even prefer to use the albanian flag) it wouldnt happen without a war.
as ive said many times, this map is NOT intended as SPECULATION, i do NOT BELIEVE that this will happen.
its more like "if i was emperor, i would ... " kindovan idea :]
16 Mar 2009, 12:09 am
16 Mar 2009, 12:22 am
16 Mar 2009, 12:38 am
Haliphron wrote:
Kosovo is an independent Nation as it declared independence from Serbia and is officially recognized. You DO understand that Kosovo will be unable to sustain itself economically in the long term and I'd put the chances if it being annexed by Albania at 90%.
The whole point of the KLA and the independence was a land-grab on the part of Albania which turned out to be successful.
The whole point of the KLA and the independence was a land-grab on the part of Albania which turned out to be successful.
i dont see an annexation by albania as likely (yet albania annexes kosovo in my map. which says a lot about how predictive the map is supposed to be
). countries are fanatical about "integrity" and now that kosovo has become an entity, it will remain so - except for an invasion by albania, in which case, albania would have to be an aggressor. which i find unlikely.
16 Mar 2009, 7:59 am
16 Mar 2009, 8:21 am
16 Mar 2009, 8:35 am
The whole Cornish separatist movement consisted of two people with one world war one rifle to share between them (probably not working). 
if they didn't mean to make an arse out of themselves they did.
16 Mar 2009, 8:37 am
ZEGH8578 wrote:
i allready dunnit
Where is K?
16 Mar 2009, 8:42 am
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16 Mar 2009, 9:02 am
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