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09 Oct 2018, 1:11 am

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One user owns a restaurant in Seattle


Who's that? i want comps.



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09 Oct 2018, 1:18 am

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(1) That doesn't say much - that's above working class sure, but that's middle rather than upper class (unless I'm so blindspotted that that is upper middle class - no clue). (2) 6 million isn't even remotely close to a lot. (3) I'll stop talking now because I'm probably starting to come off like an egotistical silver spoon brat.

I should mention I'm like Eric Trump or Donald Trump Jr. in that I was born rich. So, those accomplishments from the ground up are impressive. So I don't mean to say they're not - they're just, financially not close to the range I'm referring to.


Really. Would you help me out financially to attend college?



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09 Oct 2018, 1:50 am

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this country does suck. If I could move somewhere else I would. I hate it here.


moi aussi. but like you i'm stuck here also, the inborn non-transferable talents one must have to succeed in amuuurica are precisely the talents required to be able to emigrate elsewhere.



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09 Oct 2018, 1:53 am

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It insulates me for sure, but it doesn't get rid of everyday bigotry against me and those like me. I'm not black; but question, do you honestly believe "pulled over (by cops) while black" doesn't happen to rich black people? Do you think extremist Christians care whether the lgbtq person they're assaulting is poor or rich? Do you think rich families don't kick their gay sons or daughters out onto the streets after they come out?

Money solves some problems. Money doesn't solve every problem for everyone. Money isn't everything (god, just saying that will make me sound more egotistical in my next response...)

I don't know much about the topics of "racial profiling" or "LGBT acceptance".

Yes, there's lots of suffering out there, and money doesn't always solve our pain.

In the US, on average, 110-120 people suicide *EVERY - freakin - DAY*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_i ... ted_States

However, I think saying, "America sucks", because of a potential racial profiling/LGBT acceptance incident is going too far. What you're describing is human nature. You'll find this all over the world.

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One user owns a restaurant in Seattle, one user uses the monkier "Aspie Millionaire" (but hasn't posted in a long time), another user that still posts often posted having 6 million dollars from a sale of a business. I'm very successful myself, but not a multi-millionaire.


(1) That doesn't say much. (2) 6 million isn't a lot. (3) I'll stop talking now because I'm probably starting to come off like an egotistical silver spoon brat.

You have the crown!!


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09 Oct 2018, 1:57 am

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In the US, on average, 110-120 people suicide *EVERY - freakin - DAY*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_i ... ted_States


Guess how many straights commit suicide per year, guess how many gays and bisexuals do.

Or at least guess which group (straight vs. gay/bi) commits suicide the most and by what rate more.

Suicide - another aspect of life that knows no financial bounds.

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racial profiling/LGBT acceptance


When I said assault - I meant ASSAULT very literally. That expands far beyond acceptance - that's experiencing violence in this country due to how one was born. Guess which groups experience the highest level of hate crimes against the percentage of how much their population is in the country.

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Hate crimes rose the day after Trump was elected, FBI data show

Nationally, levels in 2014 were the lowest since national reporting began in 1992, according to the FBI. Since then, hate crimes have steadily increased. In 2016, the last year with FBI totals available, hate crimes were up 11.7 percent compared to 2014.

In 2017, our data show that hate crimes rose 12 percent over 2016 levels in 38 of the largest cities.

The six most frequently targeted groups in 2016, according to the FBI, were African-Americans; lesbians, gays and bisexuals; whites; Jews; Latinos; and Muslims.

Hate crime victims in 2016
African-Americans were the most-targeted group in 2016, comprising more than a quarter of all hate crime victims.

African-Americans
28.4%
Lesbian, gay or bisexual
17.5%
Whites
11.8%
Jews
11.2%
Latinos
6.1%
Muslims
5%

https://theconversation.com/new-data-sh ... 2017-97989


(Of note, percentage is compared to all hate crimes not compared to each group’s population in the states)

Challenge to Trump supporters and defenders: if you want to be taken even remotely seriously in refuting these statistics - provide statistics that refute these and especially refute the FBI. We will all be waiting.


Also, in my last point - simply being kicked out of the house in terms of acceptance isn't what I was trying to refer to.

Among homeless youth, guess how many are straight and guess how many are lgbtq in comparison to what their population percentage is in the states.

If you're young, are you more likely to become homeless as a straight or queer person?

When minorities say that these are life and death issues, we aren't speaking in metaphor.



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09 Oct 2018, 5:48 am

Maybe I could practice saving up money without spending it and once I make enough I can try my hand in stocks to see if I can make it multiply (it's gotta be better than gambling).

I'm not exactly in a position to work to make my fortune. But there has to be other ways for somebody like me to make money and once I figure it out I am out of here.

I refuse to be a prisoner of a country that doesn't even want people like me around just because of my limits. **** that!



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09 Oct 2018, 6:21 pm

That would be the Rep. Steve Scalise who survived an assassination attempt by Democrat Bernie-Bro James Hodgkinson (who tried to kill Rand Paul and several other Republican congressmen also). But Hodgkinson tried to shoot them civilly, I'm sure.

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09 Oct 2018, 6:23 pm

auntblabby wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
this country does suck. If I could move somewhere else I would. I hate it here.


moi aussi. but like you i'm stuck here also, the inborn non-transferable talents one must have to succeed in amuuurica are precisely the talents required to be able to emigrate elsewhere.


Even if I could afford to move there’s no where Else to go this is the last grueling free nation on this planet, those who believe in the bill of rights have no where else to go.



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09 Oct 2018, 6:31 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
TW1ZTY wrote:
this country does suck. If I could move somewhere else I would. I hate it here.


moi aussi. but like you i'm stuck here also, the inborn non-transferable talents one must have to succeed in amuuurica are precisely the talents required to be able to emigrate elsewhere.


Even if I could afford to move there’s no where Else to go this is the last grueling free nation on this planet, those who believe in the bill of rights have no where else to go.


I'm really going to hate myself for responding to you again but this ain't the only true "free country" in the world. Americans keep telling themselves that all the time because they refuse to acknowledge the real problems in their own country. There are plenty of other developed countries like Canada, Australia, and The UK that would give you pretty much the same freedoms and rights that we have.

Ok I'm done. Please don't go ape*** because I dared to disagree with you. :roll:



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09 Oct 2018, 6:35 pm

If you really hate this country, try going to a place like Nigeria. Spending a little time there will make you LOVE America....



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09 Oct 2018, 6:38 pm

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If you really hate this country, try going to a place like Nigeria. Spending a little time there will make you LOVE America....

I'm sure that's especially true if you're white.



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09 Oct 2018, 6:48 pm

A school teacher:

Minnesota Teacher Placed on Leave Over 'Kill Kavanaugh' Tweet

A Minnesota teacher has been placed on paid administrative leave after allegedly sending a tweet that appears to call for the killing of new Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

“So whose [sic] gonna take one for the team and kill Kavanaugh?” read the tweet from a user with the handle @lookitsSammm. The Twitter account and tweet have since been deleted.

The teacher, listed as an instructor at the Intermediate School District 917’s Alliance Education Center in Rosemont, will be on leave "pending the outcome of the investigation," according to ISD 917 Superintendent Mark Zuzek.


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09 Oct 2018, 6:55 pm

It's true if you're black, too.

I've known black people who have gone to various countries. They might be critical of America. But they still want to go back.

They want to try to fix it, rather than hate it.

Trump is not America. Trump is just a dick.



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09 Oct 2018, 7:06 pm

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It's true if you're black, too.

I've known black people who have gone to various countries. They might be critical of America. But they still want to go back.

They want to try to fix it, rather than hate it.

Trump is not America. Trump is just a dick.

Yes indeed. He is a dick. And so are most of his supporters.

Right now this country is full of dicks and that is exactly why I want to leave. But I am stuck here and could never leave if I wanted to so whatever.

The next person who actually tells me to leave this country I might actually punch them in their face as hard as I can. I don't care if I go to jail for it.



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09 Oct 2018, 7:08 pm

Pro tip: if your political party of choice is the recipient of a steady stream of death threats, STOP WHINING ABOUT IT & THINK ABOUT WHY.

I don't care how many people are trying to kill GOP politicians - it's a lot; after all I'm just some know-nothing liberal cuck from dumbfuckistan who can't be bothered to ever consider common decency. People like me don't really see a point in preserving the lives of those who demonize us to the point of schoolteachers playing devils' advocate regarding partisan assassinations. We're in a state of nature, the White House is profiting from pitting us all against each other and you're surprised that some wish death on the people turning the screws? That's how they get you.

Wake up. You're ignoring & disrespecting at least half your neighbors; I don't think that's the point of this country.


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09 Oct 2018, 7:09 pm

I'm so tired of seeing this kind of thing from teachers and professors over and over and over again.