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19 Jun 2009, 6:35 am

personal experience of the supernatural.

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19 Jun 2009, 6:54 am

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personal experience of the supernatural.

That's a poor reason. Many others have had spiritual experiences which are mutually contradictory to each other and, as shown by the God Helmet, it is likely just a feature of the human brain.

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19 Jun 2009, 7:20 am

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personal experience of the supernatural.

yeah me too... Henriksson the supernatural maybe a funtion of the human brain but that does not disminish it's power

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19 Jun 2009, 7:22 am

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personal experience of the supernatural.

yeah me too... Henriksson the supernatural maybe a funtion of the human brain but that does not disminish it's power

And what power is that? I know that it can have beneficial effects for some, but that's not the point.

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19 Jun 2009, 7:35 am

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scorpileo wrote:

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personal experience of the supernatural.

yeah me too... Henriksson the supernatural maybe a funtion of the human brain but that does not disminish it's power

And what power is that? I know that it can have beneficial effects for some, but that's not the point.

what is the point..? that they contridict?

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19 Jun 2009, 7:37 am

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personal experience of the supernatural.

yeah me too... Henriksson the supernatural maybe a funtion of the human brain but that does not disminish it's power

And what power is that? I know that it can have beneficial effects for some, but that's not the point.

what is the point..? that they contridict?

You talked about some sort of 'power'. Please elaborate.

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19 Jun 2009, 7:41 am

right... the power I speak of is the human mind... it can heal and other things... I think the power is given to us at birth but needs stimulation... from drugs or perhaps god

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19 Jun 2009, 7:53 am

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right... the power I speak of is the human mind... it can heal and other things... I think the power is given to us at birth but needs stimulation... from drugs or perhaps god

You have yet to show the authencity of these experiences. I've shown that it can indeed be just a function of the brain, what do you have?

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19 Jun 2009, 8:02 am

realy just that it being caused by the brain is irrelivent.. I have only my and others expirence to go on.

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19 Jun 2009, 8:06 am

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realy just that it being caused by the brain is irrelivent..

Indeed it is not. By using Occam's Razor, it is most likely just an effect by the brain, and not by influence of dieties. It has no truth value.

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I have only my and others expirence to go on.

And they also happen to be contradictory to each other. You stand on shaky ground, at best.

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19 Jun 2009, 8:14 am

lets leave it there then.. I don,t whant to be stuck in a loop.

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19 Jun 2009, 11:36 am

I believe God is Balance, not evil.

If God was evil then he'd interfere.

God Doesn't.

If God was good, he'd interfere.

He Doesn't.

No...God keeps the balance I think. Doesn't interfere but keeps us safe. Essentially to allow us to flourish. God isn't good...by the sheer fact he doesn't interfere it makes him far from good. No being can allow slaughters to occur and not respond.

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19 Jun 2009, 11:43 am

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Since God does not interfere for either good or evil then he does not interfere and how can one know what method he uses to keep this "balance" or is there a method?

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Sand wrote:

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Since God does not interfere for either good or evil then he does not interfere and how can one know what method he uses to keep this "balance" or is there a method?

If God neither causes nor prevents Evil then why call Him God? Any entity that just sits there and does not intervene may as well not exist. Among my co-ethnics who are more religious than I, my observation is considered near blasphemy. My Orthodox buddies consider me Apikoros (Epicurean). Actually I am more of a Stoic. But I follow the Golden Rule (as best I can) and respect life and property.

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19 Jun 2009, 11:52 am

Because of the power he wields.

Power denotes respect. You may hate him but it does demand respect

How do we know he doesn't exercise that power. Maybe we just can't see it yet.

2000 years ago we couldn't see cells. How do we know it's the same thing now?

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19 Jun 2009, 12:09 pm

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If, as you claim, God does not interfere what use are any of his powers? A power not exercised is not a power.

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