When the Riots Begin
People in the great depression had it much more severe and they had a great deal more wherewithal to do something about it. It was much more likely that the average family had a long gun or two and experience using it. Many people were war veterans.
There were riots of course, and people died. but you could count them in hundreds. Zeno suggests that millions could riot. Very unlikely.
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Francis wrote:
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What will you do when the riots start?
I already own multiple weapons and have a stockpile of ammo and canned food. So I am ready. Whats your plan?
What about when your ammo and food runs out?
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Fuzzy wrote:
People in the great depression had it much more severe and they had a great deal more wherewithal to do something about it. It was much more likely that the average family had a long gun or two and experience using it. Many people were war veterans.
There were riots of course, and people died. but you could count them in hundreds. Zeno suggests that millions could riot. Very unlikely.
There were riots of course, and people died. but you could count them in hundreds. Zeno suggests that millions could riot. Very unlikely.
The misfit between an agrarian system and a burgeoning industrial economy was one of the reasons that brought on the Great Depression. Contrary to what commentators would have you believe, most people in the 1930s were not desperate. Back then the American landscape was dominated by farms and if you were willing to work as a farm hand there would be a job for you. It did not pay well but at least you would have three square meals and a place to sleep. Things are quite different today.
When people run out of money and still cannot get a job, they literally reach the end of the road and slam into a wall. Invariably, Humpty Dumpty cannot be put back together again. Many of these unfortunate people end up going to a place where no one can reach them. It is a protective mechanism. Over the course of this year, you will start to see more and more of such people. Most of them will become so damaged that they will probably never work again.
I say this with compassion because like many people on the spectrum, I am unemployed. Actually it is something of a euphemism to say that I am unemployed because I have not worked in more than six years. So I do know what it is like to reach the end of the road and slam splat face first into the concrete.
Be prepared as things are starting to get more serious. Emergency supplies should be packed and safe areas mapped out in advance. Try to figure out what you will do if something does happen because being prepared will help.
Here is some news on how many are not getting their unemployment benefits because states have maxed out their credit. Count yourself lucky to have unemployment insurance, we do not have that in Singapore and that is the way it is in much of Asia.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/24/us/24 ... ml?_r=1&hp
Zeno wrote:
Here is some news on how many are not getting their unemployment benefits because states have maxed out their credit. Count yourself lucky to have unemployment insurance, we do not have that in Singapore and that is the way it is in much of Asia.
Not to worry. Bread-lines and soup-kitchens will solve the problem adequately. Also doubling the size of sidewalk gratings will take care of the extra people during the winter.
Industrial cartons can be fitted as sleeping chambers for the indigent and will keep them from freezing during the winter. A sufficient number of portable potties takes care of the waste problem. Comes winter we can stack and store the Poor.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
ruveyn
zer0netgain wrote:
Frankly, I see California as a test tube of what's going to happen to all the nation if nothing is done to stop it.
If the state burns when they can't pay bills and people start getting violent, it will be used to test what does and doesn't work to maintain the power of those in power. It will also be used to see how much sympathy is found nationwide for those rioting or if people support the action of the government to maintain order.
All the mismanagement going on in California has been developing on a national level, and all the cries to avoid such bad choices have gone largely unheeded.
If the state burns when they can't pay bills and people start getting violent, it will be used to test what does and doesn't work to maintain the power of those in power. It will also be used to see how much sympathy is found nationwide for those rioting or if people support the action of the government to maintain order.
All the mismanagement going on in California has been developing on a national level, and all the cries to avoid such bad choices have gone largely unheeded.
the state can't pay its bills because of how messed up their system is and how much democracy was granted (too much).
it was funny to watch happen and i'm glad i got out of there when i did. I actually still have my little apology notice from the state regarding the delay on my state tax return. a little piece of history for me to hold on to and smile about.
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pezar wrote:
I've worked in an American school district, and the vast majority of public schools are little more than glorified babysitting. 30 minutes of each 60 minute class period is spent at computers watching rap videos on Yahoo. Fridays are movie days, usually cheap, kid friendly movies like Beethoven (not the composer, it's actually about a huge dog that gets into various situations and is bailed out by kids) and Monster House, a cartoon about a spirit possessed old house that "eats" kids.
Most American kids long ago gave up on bettering themselves. They look forward to the streets because that's all they know. I've seen it, you haven't. Singapore is a vastly different culture. You guys value education. Most Americans don't. Our top scientists come from places like Singapore, Japan, and India. The rich, of course, have their own privately run schools, where they don't have to mix with the unwashed, where they are taught real knowledge. Those schools are not accessible to the average American. We get movies and music videos on school equipment, and the occasional lecture.
America already has great numbers of "non-Americans", even whites, since schools long ago gave up trying to civilize and Americanize kids. Most Americans have zero clue what is in our founding documents. One common error is mixing Thomas Jefferson with Karl Marx. If you search long enough on Youtube, you can find man-on-the-street interviews done by an American comedian named Jay Leno, they are called "Jaywalking". Leno asks ordinary Americans basic questions about American history and government, only to get blank stares and random guesses. Americans are conversely well schooled in pop culture, however. One time Leno went to an American public university and interviewed graduates on their graduation day, and got the same blank stares. America is not Singapore, American education is all about more salary for less work for teachers and administrators. American educators long ago jettisoned high minded ideals about teaching the fundamentals of American civilization.
Most American kids long ago gave up on bettering themselves. They look forward to the streets because that's all they know. I've seen it, you haven't. Singapore is a vastly different culture. You guys value education. Most Americans don't. Our top scientists come from places like Singapore, Japan, and India. The rich, of course, have their own privately run schools, where they don't have to mix with the unwashed, where they are taught real knowledge. Those schools are not accessible to the average American. We get movies and music videos on school equipment, and the occasional lecture.
America already has great numbers of "non-Americans", even whites, since schools long ago gave up trying to civilize and Americanize kids. Most Americans have zero clue what is in our founding documents. One common error is mixing Thomas Jefferson with Karl Marx. If you search long enough on Youtube, you can find man-on-the-street interviews done by an American comedian named Jay Leno, they are called "Jaywalking". Leno asks ordinary Americans basic questions about American history and government, only to get blank stares and random guesses. Americans are conversely well schooled in pop culture, however. One time Leno went to an American public university and interviewed graduates on their graduation day, and got the same blank stares. America is not Singapore, American education is all about more salary for less work for teachers and administrators. American educators long ago jettisoned high minded ideals about teaching the fundamentals of American civilization.
Not to mention the fact that kids that actually want to learn are subtlety punished for it. They do it by taking your books off you for working ahead. And yelling at you when you always know the answer.
I had the unusual experience of going to the best private school in my county then going to a crap public school.
I saw a massive difference between the two. For one when I went to public school I was 3 years ahead of the rest. This is because my private school taught us at a higher level.
Long story short public schools made me give up on learning. I became a number and not a person to them. Ive started teaching myself what I need to know but the schools here are for 1 thing only. Teaching submission and obedience as a prep for society!
Tollorin wrote:
All this talks about gun.... you american are crazy...
Really if more and more peoples get gun, is likely to be far worst in the event the society break down.
Really if more and more peoples get gun, is likely to be far worst in the event the society break down.
Not far from where I was living robbers were knocking on doors at night. when the residents answered there door the robbers killed everyone.
If the family had owned a gun someone would have shot the robber and kept there family's safe.
Guns are for keeping yourself safe.
Yes they can and inevitably will be misused but everything can and does get misused.
Tollorin wrote:
There already been worst cases. What the meda covered the most during the Rwanda genocide?
The genocide? No.....
They covered O.J. Simpson trial.
They're also been much much much more coverage for the death of lady Diana that for the death of Mother Theresa (they died the same month.)
This is exactly what there doing now with Michael Jackson. They are trying to distract the general public from important issues . They don't want everyone focusing on how bad the economy is so they just keep talking about gossip and Hollywood news. (I mean no disrespect to Michael Jackson I just think we need to move on to the news.)The genocide? No.....
They covered O.J. Simpson trial.
They're also been much much much more coverage for the death of lady Diana that for the death of Mother Theresa (they died the same month.)
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I must say, there not only povertry who create social problems, wealth recently created problems too. The society had gone more and more into materialism and superficiality. The crisis got a least the merit to obligate peoples to reconsider their lives and to come to more essential values.
Hopefully it will teach people to value more important things. But sadly the suffering of the people going through all this far outweighs any lessons that can be learned.
when the riots begin......
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV18scOsX54[/youtube]
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just-me wrote:
Long story short public schools made me give up on learning. I became a number and not a person to them. Ive started teaching myself what I need to know but the schools here are for 1 thing only. Teaching submission and obedience as a prep for society!
The quickest way to foul things up is let the government run it. Government run and funded public schools. An invitation to functional illiteracy. Your tax dollars at work.
ruveyn
Zeno wrote:
If you live in America, you should buy a gun... What will you do when the riots start?
I've been wondering for almost a decade why we're NOT all rioting in the streets. We have more good reasons to riot than you can count. But we won't. We're too stupid, and growing stupider by the day. Just a bunch of mindless sheep who believe whatever they're told.
The public school system and mass media have been working on it for the past century or so. Science to the rescue. They keep getting better and better at it.
If someone does happen to catch a clue and try to organize a protest, it doesn't go far. We have little protests all the time. But the mainstream media won't report it. The way they tell it, you'd think that everything is peachy. There's no way to get a real movement going. All the little "grass-roots" movements are infiltrated and re-directed away from anything that matters.
The last frontier in mind control is the Aspie. Thanks to people like Temple Grandin, this population is being anesthetized as much as possible. So now there's no one left who is capable of an independent thought.
A gun won't help you. It's not the food riots that will kill you. It's the lack of food & water. And the plagues. And the forced immunications that'll kill you quicker than the diseases. And the police and military. And the concentration camps...
Then again, the gun would be worth something as barter, when all other commodities are useless. Keep in touch with any low-life friends who have black-market connections. You're gonna need them.
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ruveyn wrote:
just-me wrote:
Long story short public schools made me give up on learning. I became a number and not a person to them. Ive started teaching myself what I need to know but the schools here are for 1 thing only. Teaching submission and obedience as a prep for society!
The quickest way to foul things up is let the government run it. Government run and funded public schools. An invitation to functional illiteracy. Your tax dollars at work.
ruveyn
QFT
just-me wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
just-me wrote:
Long story short public schools made me give up on learning. I became a number and not a person to them. Ive started teaching myself what I need to know but the schools here are for 1 thing only. Teaching submission and obedience as a prep for society!
The quickest way to foul things up is let the government run it. Government run and funded public schools. An invitation to functional illiteracy. Your tax dollars at work.
ruveyn
QFT
I went through the completely public school system in New York City in the 1930's. We all learned to read with no problems. Class sizes ranged from about 30 to 40 pupils. We grew up to be competent in all our professions. No problems.
