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08 Jun 2010, 4:27 am

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Delighted to be of use. We idiots rarely find such functional accommodation. It's only those terribly intelligent and dynamic individuals such as yourself who are so shunned by a stupid world and have been persecuted and reviled for their kindness, perception and humanity and capability to provide the sensible solutions necessary for a peaceful and productive world.


Great,let's just hope that one day idiots would loose even their limited usefulness/



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08 Jun 2010, 4:27 am

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Kraichgauer wrote:

I'm not going to hold my breath for a stateless world. It's as if tribalism is part of the human condition - us against them-ism. If it's not what people look like that makes them want to kill each other, it's what they believe.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Another thing which might be relevant not this topic but to this site is that sometimes i have a feeling that lot of the aspies hardships stem from the fact that they have much weaker "us against them-ism" mentality and consequently a touch time to identify with society and a much stronger identity,
that's why so many of us belongs to the wrong planet.
If u take a detailed look at why aspies r bullied,ignored,neglected,misunderstood,mistreated and why from an NT point of view we live in a bubble u may identify a pattern of identity that is geared toward the acceptance of the "other" to a degree that is disabling in "us against them-ism" based social structure,
So it maybe that my Utopian sentiments are not that far fetched,
For instance,i discovered many years ago that i have much more in common with an aspie from Afghanistan than with my own family ,we may already belong to a tribeless society and that why ae are strangers to the current one/


How can one not admire the wonderful way the women are treated in Afghanistan? If only the Aspies could realize the the eternal tribal conflicts there are what strengthen basic values and if only even the Israelis could accept the great enterprise of producing tons of dope to keep the world happy how much better off we all would be.



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08 Jun 2010, 4:45 am

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I am a Jew who is against Zionism, but i have no Problem with Jewish Culture as i am going to Djerba Tunisia, this summer to learn about the Jewish History.


I am a Jew who have many problems with the Jewish Culture, Religious doctrines and ethnic traditions,
That's why i am glade that Zionism helped us overcomes lot's of the more backwards perceptions identified with Judaism,
Separating religion from state was one of the most important step the Zionist took and u could locate most if Israel problems now days to the introduction of the religious movements such as Gush Emunim and Shas to the Israeli democracy,
(If u look at Turkey now u can see how and why turning to a more "traditional" values could lead to lot's of troubles)
Settlers are mostly "Gush Emunim" oriented people who as religion motivated folks have no clues and no regard to the democratic and liberal values Zionism is all about
most of their actions are illegal and they are corrupting Israel and most Israelis just hate them,
Israel is much better without their primitive take on Jewish cultures and values/



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08 Jun 2010, 4:50 am

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Sand wrote:
Delighted to be of use. We idiots rarely find such functional accommodation. It's only those terribly intelligent and dynamic individuals such as yourself who are so shunned by a stupid world and have been persecuted and reviled for their kindness, perception and humanity and capability to provide the sensible solutions necessary for a peaceful and productive world.


Great,let's just hope that one day idiots would loose even their limited usefulness/


No problem. I am loosing my terrible ignorance on the world this very minute!



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08 Jun 2010, 4:55 am

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How can one not admire the wonderful way the women are treated in Afghanistan? If only the Aspies could realize the the eternal tribal conflicts there are what strengthen basic values and if only even the Israelis could accept the great enterprise of producing tons of dope to keep the world happy how much better off we all would be.


Really ?
indeed u r unique.



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08 Jun 2010, 4:58 am

nara44 wrote:
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How can one not admire the wonderful way the women are treated in Afghanistan? If only the Aspies could realize the the eternal tribal conflicts there are what strengthen basic values and if only even the Israelis could accept the great enterprise of producing tons of dope to keep the world happy how much better off we all would be.


Really ?
indeed u r unique.


Uniqueness aside, I was merely joining you in your love of Afghanistan culture. Are you really an Afghanistan Jew? That sounds quite unique.



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08 Jun 2010, 11:34 am

Sand wrote:
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Sand wrote:
How can one not admire the wonderful way the women are treated in Afghanistan? If only the Aspies could realize the the eternal tribal conflicts there are what strengthen basic values and if only even the Israelis could accept the great enterprise of producing tons of dope to keep the world happy how much better off we all would be.


Really ?
indeed u r unique.


Uniqueness aside, I was merely joining you in your love of Afghanistan culture. Are you really an Afghanistan Jew? That sounds quite unique.


Afghan carpet ride? topic

Jews are found all over, even in China.

Women are also not treated well in other certain regions in the Middle East (including a region that is admired by many recent aid activists), but that is not Nara's point, as far as I can read. He feels a solidarity with aspies from other countries, regardless of ethnicity.

So do others, icluding me. This is why I visit Wrong Planet. 8)


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08 Jun 2010, 11:41 am

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Sand wrote:
How can one not admire the wonderful way the women are treated in Afghanistan? If only the Aspies could realize the the eternal tribal conflicts there are what strengthen basic values and if only even the Israelis could accept the great enterprise of producing tons of dope to keep the world happy how much better off we all would be.


Really ?
indeed u r unique.


Uniqueness aside, I was merely joining you in your love of Afghanistan culture. Are you really an Afghanistan Jew? That sounds quite unique.


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Jews are found all over, even in China.

Women are also not treated well in other certain regions in the Middle East (including a region that is admired by many recent aid activists), but that is not Nara's point, as far as I can read. He feels a solidarity with aspies from other countries, regardless of ethnicity.

So do others, icluding me. This is why I visit Wrong Planet. 8)


According to Wikipedia (which is not always reliable) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... fghanistan There is one Jew left in Afghanistan.



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08 Jun 2010, 3:10 pm

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, but that is not Nara's point, as far as I can read. He feels a solidarity with aspies from other countries, regardless of ethnicity.

So do others, icluding me. This is why I visit Wrong Planet. 8)


I actually exchanged some emails with an Aspi from Afghanistan,
He wasn't a Jew but a Pashtun and i was struck by how much his daily experience and biography is similar to mine,
Here was a man,half a globe a way, from a totally different culture and background ,Yet his take on life was so similar to mine it was almost frightening,
I've "met" many people here at WP and at other site like this that get me much better than my family,or my immediate social environment, would ever get,
So it made sense to me to assume that an AS personality might fit better in a state less world because perhaps one of the reasons behind AS strangeness lies in their inability to conform to any local culture or tradition,
Maybe it's no coincidence that many of us works as a programmers and scientists,professions that have global scope and appeal( i have clients all over the world)
Problem is there is not any global culture or tradition yet
We have to create it and it is not so simple



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08 Jun 2010, 3:56 pm

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Problem is there is not any global culture or tradition yet
We have to create it and it is not so simple


Ain't that the truth!


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08 Jun 2010, 4:01 pm

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nara44 wrote:
Problem is there is not any global culture or tradition yet
We have to create it and it is not so simple


Ain't that the truth!


Actually, evolutionary "history" is such a common mythos, but first you'd need to convince everyone of it. Dictatorships have often used two methods of convincing people, namely "education" and firing squads.