Ultraconservatives pretend homophobia/racism doesn't exist

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Pretty sure he was listing things he doesn't like and not comparing along with stating some extreme possibilities of tolerance/affirmative action.

If you think his lack of support from Florida Democrats has nothing to do with his being black, you're naive about Florida politics.

Steele's accusing Clinton of bigotry is exactly as valid as liberals accusing the Tea Party of bigotry. They're both politically motivated accusations with little connection to the truth.

Someone on the left calls Clarence Thomas an "Uncle Tom". Someone on the right calls Barack Obama a "Magic Negro". Both sides are going to take sh** for doing it.

Far be it from me to question your right so to do. But I certainly will exercise my right to ridicule your expression of that right.



Since when do Satanists sacrifice goats? Since when are Satanists on the same moral and ethical ground as paedophiles? Last time I checked, being into bondage with another consenting adult was a perfectly moral, ethical and legal activity. Did I miss a meeting?

You engage in the typical logical fallacy of reductio ad absurdem. Extending legal protection to one class of persons does not necessarily imply a relaxation of the criminal prohibitions against conduct that is not and can never be consensual.

But, by all means, feel free to exercise your freedom of thought--however absurd it might be.

Pedophilia and bestiality aren't the same things as satanism or bondage.


Also, f**k YOU I like bondage. You self-righteous, judgmental prick. What I do is nowhere in the same thing as bestiality or pedophilia; it's consensual acts between adults.

Doors and walls topic

People often wonder what goes on when the door is closed, when the lights are varied, when the wall goes up. Imaginations run rampant, and can be so inaccurate.

Consenting adult behaviour can be somewhat unnerving, if viewed out of context, by those who do not understand. The old "rules" no longer apply. The world is more complicated than it used to be. Perhaps we know more personal stuff about others than we need to, due to the vast amount of information we can find at the touch of a keyboard or screen.

Please note that I am not referring to behaviours/ideas that are clearly illegal, cause harm to minors, or support traumatic abuse.

I know I tend to be a bit squeamish about certain ideas and behaviour that are legal but none of my business. I must remember that being judgmental about legal activity is personal, and should remain in my head, and to understand that to harshly judge a person by something that is none of my business is wrong, and to obsess about it is foolish and a waste of my valuable time. And the other person cares not what I think anyway.

I would have thought it was a tie between the poor and the LGBT community. However, they rationalize cutting social services, like public education and food stamps, as motivating the poor to work harder so they can send their children to private schools and eat lobster like they do. In their reality, they're just helping them to be more self sufficient and responsible, unlike those patronizing social democrats who want them dependent on the nanny state the rest of their lives. They really hate gays on more of a fundamental level than the poor. They believe they're going to hell for sinning against nature and that they're perverted.

I have no idea why Meek is polling so badly, to be honest. I know that Crist (the former governor who is also making headlines by dropping his party affiliation) and Rubio (the insurgent Tea Party candidate) have gotten a lot more media attention, and no one has really been paying attention to Meek. I could see his race costing him support among north and central Florida voters (where it is still the South), but how many Dixiecrats are really still affiliated with the Democratic party?


I disagree. Clinton could simply have been attempting to ensure that Florida was represented by a sane moderate Republican rather than a lunatic extremist from the Tea Party. That's just politics; nothing to do with race. A sizable subset of the Tea Party movement (and their leaders) can be observed to actually be bigoted.

i do have to say, after living in many different cities and states, that florida (i lived in the tampa st. pete area for six years recently) is by far the most openly racist place i have lived in.

South Florida, especially Miami, is different. It's much more cosmopolitan, and not really a part of the "South."

In Florida, the farther south and east you go, the farther away from "The South" you get. Kinda like the farther out of New Orleans you get, the more into the "The South" you get.

The ignorance and stereotyping in this thread is saddening. Really most of this is what I would expect from NT's not aspies.

"Aspergers? Yea I saw Raimanm. What's the square root of 2130?" <--- this is how dumb some you you sound.

I understand that the Democrat party was the one to elect two KKK members to be president and a KKK member to the senate; and appointed a KKK member to the supreme court; That a majority of Democrats voted against the abolition of slavery and the 13th amendment. That a majority of Democrats voted against the 14th amendment which made the bill of rights applicable to state governments and lead to landmark cases such as Roe v. Wade. That a majority of Democrats voted against the 15th amendment giving all races the right to vote. That Democrats lead a filibuster again a law to make lynching a crime. And that Democrats lead a filibuster of the 1964 civil rights act. But you know what? I'm not stupid enough to stereotype and judge all liberals by the actions others.

And to refer to people as teabaggers is just petty and immature. Proudly we don't refer to the Democrats as donkey punchers even though an ass is the symbol of the party.

Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to throw out claims of ignorance when you seem to be naive to the fact that there was a drastic switch between the 2 parties thanks to Barry Goldwater and the southern strategy. Until the 1964 election, democrats ruled the south and republicans were referred to as the northern elitists.

Yes. That's clearly the agenda of those who wish gay marriage to be made a civil right.

Climb back under your bridge, gnomo.

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That's what they call themselves, from the beginning of the movement. Bags of tea hanging from their hats and all decked out in garb from the latter half of the colonial 1700's.
Teabagger = Tea Party member.



What you say above is true. However, the Tea Partiers (for you ) do not cry, 'Save our homeland!' They cry, 'Get rid of the Mexicans!' Or, even worse, 'Git rid 'a the illegals!' As if being in the country w/o official recognition (a misdemeanour, on the same level as a traffic violation) makes a person illegal and illegitimate. They make no mention of Brittish, Canadians, or Europeans in this country illegally - even though these are the groups who are more likely to be competing with the Tea Party demographic for jobs.

Look, for example, at the ads put forth by Angle - a leader and representative of the Tea Party! They are overtly racist, not even trying to put on a veneer of civil discourse. If there are Tea Partiers who still claim that they have nothing to do with racism, then it's a case of the left hand either ignorant or apathetic of what the right hand is doing.



Gotta disagree with you there. It's pretty damn hard to want to end birthright citizenship without some kind of nasty demographic fear behind the desire. If it's about 'cutting entitlements,' then it's only about cutting entitlemnts for the "them" that the Tea Partiers fear.



There's a lot that doesn't take a lot of interpreting. Look at what the leaders of the Tea Party actually say. Look at their ads. You're definately right that I don't like them at all, but believe me - I'm just as disgusted with the political apparatus as the person next to me; it's not because I'm happy with the status quo. It's not because I'm happy with Obama or happy with the Democrats. It's because I listen to what they say - anarchocapitalism, dominionism, and anti-choice messages as well as racism, and find it disgusting.



where have I attacked the person? I have attacked the movement by speaking the truth of what the movement represents. What I see over and over is that the Tea Party is for people who are angry and afraid and entitled.

I still don't understand why its a felony to aid or employ an illegal alien but still only a misdemeanor to be in the country illegally.