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04 Apr 2011, 2:03 pm

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It would be nice if the NDP got Quebec out of the Bloc's slimy hands. They really have no interest in anybody's well being
I also heard about that Bloc candidate's comments, and I am pretty much unsurprised. The Bloc and PQ are both xenophobic. Though usually this manifests as anti-semitism or anti-Anglo sentiment (which most people care less about, except this Anglo, I suppose) on Vigile.net (a horrid separatist website, that also stole my name...)


I'd like to know more about the anti-semitism, and just to let you know I generally don't consider comments critical of Israeli defense policy inherently anti-semitic.


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04 Apr 2011, 2:10 pm

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Vigilans wrote:
It would be nice if the NDP got Quebec out of the Bloc's slimy hands. They really have no interest in anybody's well being
I also heard about that Bloc candidate's comments, and I am pretty much unsurprised. The Bloc and PQ are both xenophobic. Though usually this manifests as anti-semitism or anti-Anglo sentiment (which most people care less about, except this Anglo, I suppose) on Vigile.net (a horrid separatist website, that also stole my name...)


I'd like to know more about the anti-semitism, and just to let you know I generally don't consider comments critical of Israeli defense policy inherently anti-semitic.



Nothing to do with Israel really. There is a trend in Quebec of antisemitism. I've spoken to a lot of BQ supporters who talk about 'taking power back from the Jews' and other tripe. There is a lot of Jewish money in Montreal, which I see no problem with, but many separatists do, not necessarily due to racial reasons but more or less because they don't like people who aren't Quebecois having any power here

Off the top of my head I can think of a few PQ or BQ politicians who recieved flak recently for supposedly anti-Semitic comment son Vigile


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04 Apr 2011, 2:16 pm

I do know there were some problems with anti-seminism in the ancient Parti canadien.


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04 Apr 2011, 2:41 pm

And what's the base and party officials of Québec solidaire like?


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04 Apr 2011, 3:27 pm

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And what's the base and party officials of Québec solidaire like?


Good question. I am not too sure about QS. I'm fairly certain they are supportive of Quebec autonomy, alter-globalism, leftist policies and maintaining the many Socialist policies of Quebec. As to who votes for them, I am not so sure. I think only one QS candidate has actually been elected thus far, and he or she was in the Montreal area


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04 Apr 2011, 11:02 pm

If you're interested, i think one of the two party officials of QS (Yes, it's a two-headed monster :p ) was elected at the National Assembly, i reckon his name was (and still is) Amir Khadir. I think he's the only one of QS in there, so it at least gives them a little visibility, but meh. =/

Also, i can't speak in general about it, but one of the things people don't seem to like about Jews is mostly those who close themselves off to the rest of the world and then expect us to accomodate them. =/ Personnally, i could care less, but it would still be nice if they were a little bit less secular. I think there is one person i know who might be jew (he has a jewish name so i've been told, or so he's told me himself, can't remember) which i get along with and he's a very nice guy. :o



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04 Apr 2011, 11:20 pm

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If you're interested, i think one of the two party officials of QS (Yes, it's a two-headed monster :p ) was elected at the National Assembly, i reckon his name was (and still is) Amir Khadir. I think he's the only one of QS in there, so it at least gives them a little visibility, but meh. =/

Also, i can't speak in general about it, but one of the things people don't seem to like about Jews is mostly those who close themselves off to the rest of the world and then expect us to accomodate them. =/ Personnally, i could care less, but it would still be nice if they were a little bit less secular. I think there is one person i know who might be jew (he has a jewish name so i've been told, or so he's told me himself, can't remember) which i get along with and he's a very nice guy. :o


What are your thoughts on QS Phil?

Also what do you mean by Jews closing themselves off and expecting us to accommodate them? Have you been to the West Island? I know many Jews there, and they refer to boroughs like D.D.O as 'Jewtown' (in a humorous fashion- since they're Jews, I suppose they can get away with it, right? :P ). And honestly, they are pretty secular... The people who seem to be demanding accommodations are the Islamic immigrants, not the very old and well established Quebec Jewish community


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04 Apr 2011, 11:25 pm

Amir Khadir is the one MNA for Quebec Solidaire. The other "spokesperson" (from what I've read, the Quebec Solidaire doesn't like the concept of "Party leaders" and would rather be a more or less egalitarian party) is the feminist Françoise David.


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05 Apr 2011, 11:17 am

Well, if you remember a few years back, there was a small fit that was being thrown because of a jewish community somewhere in... Saguenay? =.= Uh... It was about putting up fences or something, memory's not too clear on this. It also involved children in some way.

@ Pedant: Hence why i said it was a two-headed monster. =P -grin-

Heh, my thoughts on QS... Well, as people they're probably not that bad... Except they are a bit radical sometimes, towards the left end of the political spectrum, which makes their ideas kind of ridiculous (so i heard) and unapplicable. I would say that Amir Khadir sounds like the more level-headed one, but he does have more opportunities to make himself heard, since he has been elected... =/ (I reckon he's also a doctor)