23 Apr 2011, 1:12 pm
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
This is what I think it is - and yes, I'm stepping on toes here so be warned, its a cocky assertion 
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion. Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion. Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
Personally, I find this a bit funny and ironic, as uncontrolled/unmitigated market shifts and realignments probably do more destroy a sense of meaning in peoples' lives by destroying outdated communities ("creative destruction") than the abscence of theism. And you whole-heartedly support such outcomes.
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23 Apr 2011, 1:20 pm
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
This is what I think it is ...
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion.
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion.
Right or wrong to do and whether foolish or not, I say that is noble and commendable.
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
... stepping on toes here so be warned, its a cocky assertion
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Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
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Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
So then, you and I and others here seem to speak as we might at least partly for their same kinds of reasons.
23 Apr 2011, 1:25 pm
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23 Apr 2011, 1:49 pm
23 Apr 2011, 1:52 pm
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
This is what I think it is - and yes, I'm stepping on toes here so be warned, its a cocky assertion
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion. Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion. Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
You're being fairly accurate in your assessment, and as has been pointed out earlier a lot of the provocations and bashing comes from the atheists here not Christians.
To add to the statement, I find it funny that Atheists here aren't bashing Islam like they bash Christians.
23 Apr 2011, 1:55 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
This is what I think it is - and yes, I'm stepping on toes here so be warned, its a cocky assertion
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion. Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion. Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
You're being fairly accurate in your assessment, and as has been pointed out earlier a lot of the provocations and bashing comes from the atheists here not Christians.
To add to the statement, I find it funny that Atheists here aren't bashing Islam like they bash Christians.
Most of the Atheist threads are humorous in nature. Unlike the homophobic, Islamophobic, or general xenophobic crap that comes out of some of the Theists here
btw I have criticized Islam on several occasions, as have others. However Muslims don't post here, as far as I know, or put threads up about Sharia law or whatever. The various Christians however can almost be expected to write about the worst their faith has to offer as there is no shortage of them here. Most of the 'bashing' as you term it comes as a response to really ignorant or offensive statements. When they aren't making offensive statements its rather civil
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23 Apr 2011, 1:56 pm
23 Apr 2011, 2:08 pm
23 Apr 2011, 2:08 pm
TallyMan wrote:
It is a debate forum, so if people go there expressing religious views they will be debated, simple as that. I've noticed there is a general tendency for Aspies to be more logical and less accepting of irrational belief systems so when people just spout biblical stuff the Aspie mind is likely to say "give me some evidence or proof" and this is where the debates fall down, because religion is based on faith / self delusion / social memes not facts.
Another aspect is that WP's members are from all over the world and many Western countries / societies are no longer as religious as America or the Arab countries. So this cultural divide crops up quite frequently. I've noticed that particularly the bible belt posters of America are often shocked at the level of atheism elsewhere. Christianity is so engrained in their society that they find it difficult to comprehend they are in a minority in the world.
Mention "religion" or "belief systems" and debate will follow like day follows night.
Another aspect is that WP's members are from all over the world and many Western countries / societies are no longer as religious as America or the Arab countries. So this cultural divide crops up quite frequently. I've noticed that particularly the bible belt posters of America are often shocked at the level of atheism elsewhere. Christianity is so engrained in their society that they find it difficult to comprehend they are in a minority in the world.
Mention "religion" or "belief systems" and debate will follow like day follows night.
Can't this concept be conveyed without saying people of faith are self-deluded and following an irrational belief system? THAT is how this site is biased against faith. To speak in such derogatory terms and have it not be seem as offensive or attacking shows just how solidly that mindset exists here.
It hurts me. Every. Single. Time.
And yet ... I'm supposed to be believe that is just me being sensitive. That is how my objection to the terms is seen. I accept it, but I will always believe it is wrong. Feels great when people I care about and respect feel free to term an aspect of who I am as deluded and irrational ...
23 Apr 2011, 2:16 pm
23 Apr 2011, 2:17 pm
Vigilans wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
This is what I think it is - and yes, I'm stepping on toes here so be warned, its a cocky assertion
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion. Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion. Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
You're being fairly accurate in your assessment, and as has been pointed out earlier a lot of the provocations and bashing comes from the atheists here not Christians.
To add to the statement, I find it funny that Atheists here aren't bashing Islam like they bash Christians.
Most of the Atheist threads are humorous in nature. Unlike the homophobic, Islamophobic, or general xenophobic crap that comes out of some of the Theists here
btw I have criticized Islam on several occasions, as have others. However Muslims don't post here, as far as I know, or put threads up about Sharia law or whatever. The various Christians however can almost be expected to write about the worst their faith has to offer as there is no shortage of them here. Most of the 'bashing' as you term it comes as a response to really ignorant or offensive statements. When they aren't making offensive statements its rather civil
Actually, the Atheist posts tend to be mocking people whom are Christian, venomous, etc. Your idea of humor is such that if I used the same kind of statements you would be arguing for me to be banned.
Seriously, you may think it is funny, but in reality what you guys are calling funny is often downright offensive. You (as a group) constantly try to mock people whom are religious as being stupid, even people specifically on these forums. Your statements to the you (as a group) do not, is really quite laughable.
23 Apr 2011, 2:20 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
This is what I think it is - and yes, I'm stepping on toes here so be warned, its a cocky assertion
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion. Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
I think 'strident atheism' and the need to rick-roll religion's existence is certain atheists acknowledging that they understand that there's no meaning, at their core they can't deal with it, they need a mission in life and they end up finding that mission in being anti-religion. Once religion's gone, they're going to be between a rock and a hard place over what to wake up in the morning for next.
You're being fairly accurate in your assessment, and as has been pointed out earlier a lot of the provocations and bashing comes from the atheists here not Christians.
To add to the statement, I find it funny that Atheists here aren't bashing Islam like they bash Christians.
Most of the Atheist threads are humorous in nature. Unlike the homophobic, Islamophobic, or general xenophobic crap that comes out of some of the Theists here
btw I have criticized Islam on several occasions, as have others. However Muslims don't post here, as far as I know, or put threads up about Sharia law or whatever. The various Christians however can almost be expected to write about the worst their faith has to offer as there is no shortage of them here. Most of the 'bashing' as you term it comes as a response to really ignorant or offensive statements. When they aren't making offensive statements its rather civil
Actually, the Atheist posts tend to be mocking people whom are Christian, venomous, etc. Your idea of humor is such that if I used the same kind of statements you would be arguing for me to be banned.
Seriously, you may think it is funny, but in reality what you guys are calling funny is often downright offensive. You (as a group) constantly try to mock people whom are religious as being stupid, even people specifically on these forums. Your statements to the you (as a group) do not, is really quite laughable.
I don't engage in that sort of behavior. I am of the Apatheist school of Atheism, and I have posted pictures making fun of Atheism as well. In any case, the light humor you find so offensive is not even close to being equatable with the homophobia and xenophobia that some of the Christians here (including you) are responsible for. There are a lot of harmless Theistic threads that some Atheists do engage in in a non-offensive manner, but I don't expect you would mention that.
23 Apr 2011, 2:21 pm
