College Students Favoring Wealth Distribution Are Asked.....

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Yeah we saw what what happened to New York when they hiked taxes, their revenues actually went down because many of the rich people packed up and moved to Florida or Texas.

Seriously, what we need is for people to stop the spread the wealth around mentality.

You wouldn't want to give up a 4.0 gpa to bump up someone else's gpa that spent their time partying instead of studying, so why are you expecting rich people to give up what they worked for.

Straw man. I am not a leveller.


Have you not paid attention to the several explanations as to why this analogy is a steaming pile of crap?

You have a point. Old Ike wasn't so bad.

ruveyn

I'd strongly suggest this advice.

We really need to make a pact to ignore Inuyasha more often. It's damn hard though.

Did you read any of my arguments on why this comparison is, in my opinion, ridiculous? Including my new story on this page? You're repeating without any back up here. I know you can do better, this is lazy. Hey, I short cut, too, sometimes, but at least I admit it when I do.

Answer the question in my story, pick your option.

Evidence please?

Uh uh uh. If you want the best from people, you have to actually believe in them.

No, the OP's post was completely valid, and on target. You all are just being dishonest to the rest of us and yourselves, because you know if you acknowledge the fact that the OP's argument is a valid one, then your redistribution case is finished, kapute, etc. Face the facts, you guys have lost the debate, so you now resort to trying to belittle the OP, and anyone else that comes to back him up.

marshall I thought you were man enough to admit when you were wrong, Orwell I kinda expected this from, but you I expected better.

YOU WANT ME TO BE WRONG THEREFORE IA M RIGHT

It isn't about whether or not I want you to be wrong. The simple fact of the matter is you are wrong.


GPA is college's version of money. So if you all are for wealthy people giving up their money for you to have, it is perfectly reasonable that you spread the "wealth" of your gpa around.

Uh, No.

Actually it is, hey you are for income redistribution, so what's so wrong with GPA redistribution.

Inuyasha, the disanalogies have been pointed out. These disanalogies are very valid, as GPA and money do not play the same role in any area of the system. To press this further though, giving part of one's GPA to another student is just not possible, and even would be considered morally invalid as it would be seen as corrupting the system. HOWEVER, charitable acts to help the poor are seen as perfectly legitimate. That is a disanalogy. It's a very relevant one to the application as well, as the reason for this as a disanalogy is the role that is played by GPA as opposed to money. Money is simply a resource to pursue goals, and GPA is a system of certifying success.

In short, you're wrong. To make the claim that your point is obvious though, and that your opponents have been defeated, however, is obviously delusional.

Money is also a way to certify success and a good GPA can help you get a really good job, so actually you're wrong.

No, money isn't a way to certify success. For instance, if I don't have a lot of money because I donate my money to the poor, am I less successful? No, I have a different value system. As well, nobody actually checks to see how much money you have(nor ought you give out the dollar figure), instead, they only check to see if you fulfill your financial obligations. So, no, you're actually incorrect.

A good GPA getting a good job is simply because a GPA is a metric for certifying a person's success in the program. It is not a medium of exchange.

As I already pointed out, if a student transfers their GPA to another student, for any reason, this would readily be regarded as a flawed educational system, the rich could literally buy diplomas, but charity and transfer in the economic system is considered valid.

So, no, you're wrong. This does not appear to be a contestable point, but rather this is a fact. If you cannot acknowledge facts, then any claim to high ground, either intellectual or moral, is clearly false. Inuyasha, I don't take my position on grounds that I really intrinsically value taxing rich people, or anything else, I clearly took a stand against the Buffett tax notions involving investment recently, but rather I fallibly *attempt* to be reasonable, instead of ramming a Republican platform through my skull and pretending that this is the height of rationality. In this case, the claim that the analogy fails is actually correct.

No, it isn't. It is the college's version of NCLB high stakes testing, a way of seeing who is doing their best. If you can't see the difference, you're being intentionally dense.

The workplace analogy to a GPA might be the CPA exam, but it isn't the salary. Grades and the CPA exam are an assessment of knowledge, not a reward. Salary is a reward, not a measure of information learned. Once you hit the workforce, you are being paid for already having learned that information, you are a finished product purchased. You may be paid way out of proportion to effort simply for holding knowledge that others covet. Or for being the son of the company president.

Could you imagine the dean of a college giving his son straight A's without earning them first?

A college analogy to salary would be a professor who gives cupcakes to all his best students. Ask me if I'll share my reward cupcake. Just ask. I promise, I'll say yes.

Did you read my story on the previous page? You're being stubbornly quiet about it. Does that mean you can't find a flaw in it? Or don't you get it?

Come on, I told these guys you could argue better than this. I do not want to be proved wrong. Dig deep, give me something that stumps me and I can't answer. Actually, to make it more interesting, I'll suggest we stop talking about the GPA analogy. Find an analogy that works for me, that I can't so quickly distinguish, for something I'll have to admit I don't want to share.