The feminisation of education or are boys getting dumber?

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I am actually wondering if some Femanists actually want boys to be failures and want men to be second class citizens.

what is a Femanist?
the definition I found was

but how does getting men to be second class citizens get a Femanist sexual access?

It was a typo, replace femanist with feminist.

i was teaching in public schools. it took a lot of planning time, but the teaching time was smooth sailing.

it requires a shift in how the teachers are approaching learning... i used to think of it as more "helping kids teach themselves" as opposed to "teaching kids". but the universities would need to overhaul how they educate teachers, and teachers would need to shift out of the old standards. so i don't actually think it will happen. i just think it's a good idea, and possible.

the big school boards in my province do exactly what you are suggesting regarding the learning styles. we have internationally recognised "schools of choice" where parents can move their kids according to what type of education would suit them - even at an elementary school level. keeping in mind that the basic subjects take priority, these are some examples of school programs that are offered in our public schools:

religious programs (christian, muslim)
hockey and other sports programs
math and science focus
art/music/dance focus
multi-grade learning
waldorf program
native canadian language and culture
second language programming (extensive education in mandarin, german, hebrew, etc)
traditional school (old fashioned values and instruction)
intensive academics
girls-only junior high school (very structured academics with school uniforms)

these programs kind of stream kids according to their interests and needs and allow parents to pick and choose where their kids will go to school. quite often the kids have to qualify for these classes by showing inclination, drive, or talent, but not always. it is mostly boys in the sports programs and obviously all girls in the one female program, but no child is forced into any program based on gender.

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on the subject of male dropout rates, across canada we have quite a big disparity. in my province of Alberta, in spite of the opportunities and internationally-high test results in schools (for boys too), lower income boys are more likely to drop out of high school to work. post-secondary education apparently makes no sense to the boys who have fewer financial options for further education (besides loans that will cripple them for a decade), so they drop out and try to make a fast dollar in the best way they know how. this is the same situation in Quebec.

http://canadaimmigration.typepad.com/ca ... atter.html

in other provinces of Canada, where more education is required in order to get high-paying jobs, the boys have equal or close-to-equal graduation rates to girls. i think that it is easy to blame teachers or school systems when the current local economy definitely has a massive influence. family income is also tied strongly to rates of post-secondary entrance, and has some effect on test scores as well (not sure of cause and effect there). of course the school itself has some influence on achievement and graduation rates, but an equally important influence is... the parenting/family background.

Oh then
but how does getting men to be second class citizens get a Feminist anything but a worthless partner?

It appeals to their sexism that they are superior to men.

I will have to chalk that up to projection and strawmanism.
Most Feminist and the Femanists that try to sleep with them really just believe in equal pay for equal work
and reproductive rights.
There are some delightful Lesbians that believe in Female supremacy but other than being a hoot at parties
are not really a going concern.

Ugh! They're on to me!

Always sticking up for women against men will endear you to the women. The men who, after combat, become second-class citizens are out of the running for sexual access.

Anyway, the conventional wisdom seems to be that feminism has turned men into second-class citizens

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... price.html

Whether education is now designed to give females an advantage--anyone up for some conspiracy theorizing?

not necessarily. i married a male feminist. so i guess he was in the running, and in fact won the race.

He seems to have been a Femanist, then.

All of the most attractive men I've ever met have been feminists. Believe it or not, being treated as a human being can be a big turn-on.
If they're just doing it for sexual access, I'd rather that than having my chair pulled out or chocolates or something.

Oh yeah, men are now second-class citizens that still earn more in average than women with the same qualifications.

I like how I don't need to create strawmen of my own when you are around.

I am all for the womans lib baby.

Just kidding I am married.

I'm not big on the grand conspiracy theories offered by some of the anti-feminist bloggers. I tend towards the "Never attribute to malice what can adequately be attributed to stupidity" line of thinking, stupidity in this case being the idea that men and women are the same except for genitals.

I won't rag you on the typo

OK, since I know a lot of women, including some who are strident feminists, I will say that there a few that would love to see men as second class citizens, just as there still are a few men that would love to see all women barefoot, in the kitchen, and out of the work force. But neither extreme is running the show, and the few over-zealous feminists are not where the problem came from.

It is generally acknowledged that the "reforms" which led to this issue were well intentioned, with the goal of equalizing education. Just, well, as you come to realize when you live long enough, most initial attempts to equalize over do it, and then you've got to right the ship and pull the sails back in a little. That is where we are on the education issue. We're saying, "oops, went too far." When made aware of it, educators do instigate change, by and large. It's just still hard to know exactly what sails to trim and which way to turn the helm so we don't go too far back in the other direction.

Peg Tyre, the author of the book I mentioned, did get some blow back from a limited number of strident feminists, who figured women had been kicked to the curb so long, so what if we went through a short period where men got to experience what it feels like. But Ms. Tyre has good arguments against that, because when you really look down the road at everything it would mean to have men kicked to the curb, it isn't something most of us "feminists" want. We wanted equal, not over. We wanted respect, not all the power. And our daughters still are attracted to men just as or more smart than they are and still like to think that someday they will have the choice to be full time mommy's, if they wish to, which requires that they marry men who have just as much earning power as they do. Most women will probably always favor the idea of going through life in a relationship, which means that most of us will never want to advance our interests at the expense of those of men. It isn't pragmatic, and it doesn't serve us in the long run. All we ever wanted was to be recognized as smart equals, and given the same opportunities we grew up seeing men have.