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I have not proven your point at all. Time is NOT energy. Never confuse the method of measurement with what is being measured.

The burden of proof for your claim is all yours; you have failed to prove your claim, and failed epically.

You're as bad as the religionists and the wannabe "psychics" - all claim and no evidence - and they are the most pathetically ignorant people I know.

And what is being measured? You just simply cannot answer the question because you KNOW I'm right, and you're stubborn.

Events are being measured, nothing more and nothing less.

Whether or not energy is used to detect those events is irrelevant - never confuse the method of measurement with what is being measured.

I know that you are ignorant of scientific principles.

You should either provide the evidence that supports your claims, or stop making claims that you can not prove.

What we perceive as "Time" may only be an emergent concept. That is, while there may be an underlying process of motion and forces from which time emerges, what we perceive as time may be mostly an illusion. Our memory creates the illusion of the past. Conscious perception of events gives the feeling of present. Future is a mental construct patterned on the memory experience of the past. Concept of time emerges as our mind tries to make sense of the world around us, which is filled with change.

Time may only be an illusion.

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And what are behind "events"? What causes an "event". How do "events" occur. Hmmm? Magic right?

No young padawan. Events always occur because of energy. If the universe freezes solid (hypothetical of course, much like your frictionless gravity free environment) and reaches absolute zero, events simply stop occurring, and no time passes because there is no energy left.

If you believe energy and time are equivalent, how do you explain special relativistic time dilation?

Due to gravity and or velocity yes?

I referred to special relativistic time dilation, wherein time "slows down" with greater relative velocity (i.e., more energy).

Well if that's what you're referring to, I've given that some thought also.

As mass increases, decay decreases. Energy equilibrium is always maintained between mass and decay. Something to do with gravity's Doppler effect on energy. Mass or velocity.

LOL Please don't take this seriously

Proffessor Brian Cox of Manchester University: "We have been asking the question 'What time is it?' for thousands of years, and even now, with our advanced scientific thinking we still don't know what it is we are asking." (paraprhasing)

It's a query of entropy.

Why is this so hard to see?

Fnord, you realize you're arguing with somebody who actually wrote this:

http://www.timephysics.com/what-causes-time.html

Hi cw10,

It is easy to build a clock that depends on controlled frames of events "occurring faster than the speed of light" (with this model, "instantaneous" is the limit, while with a QED model, "faster than instantaneous").

For simplicity, assume the Moon is one Light-Second distant, with a diameter of 1% of a Light-Second, and with an angular diameter as visible from Earth of 30' (30 "angular" arc-minutes, or 1/2 of a degree).

I put two mirrors on the Moon, one on "top" and one on the "bottom", and have them reflecting back to my point on the Earth.

I mount a Laser-Pointer to a gyroscope, and I place, on the Earth, the axis of the gyroscope perpendicular in the "'top-and-bottom-mirrors'-and-me" geometric plane, and as the Laser-beam transverses the moon from top-to-bottom, the mirrors reflect the Laser-Beams's arrival on, and the departure from, the surface of the moon. The "round-trip" of the Laser-beam is a little more than 2.01 Light-Seconds in Length, but by increasing the speed of rotation of the gyroscope, the "round-trip" by length of time approaches 2 seconds, with the point of the Light-beam traveling faster than the speed of light across the surface of the moon.

I can use the shortest attainable time of the periodic transverse across the moon as a time-unit "faster than light" across the surface of the Moon.

The speed of the point of light on the surface of the Moon moves faster than the speed of light when the gyroscope rotates faster than 8 rotations-per-minute (8 RPM divided by 60 for seconds = 0.133 RPS , 0.133 times 360 degrees = 48 degrees per second , 48 degrees per second times 4,000 miles per degree = 192,000 miles per second).

The "paradox" is of the same type as the "user-illusion" of consciousness, with the "moving point of light" being a fictional construct (as are shadows).

Tadzio

Build one and prove it.

Hi cw10,

Your request is probably satisfied in "The Big Book of Answers", including the answer to Problem 18, page 1144, in the book "Physics for Scientists and Engineers with Modern Physics, Chapters 39-46" by Serway & Jewett (2007). Other more "wordy" books take around a 1,000 pages of philosophy to "explain" the many times "built-and-proven" simple experiment/demonstration.

Much talk about much the same: http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=251174

For me (California, USA), books-dot-google returns this book as one of about 7,000 publications in return to the search for "laser point moves faster than light". This particular book, as most other books also, IMO somewhat obfuscates the most simple understanding with more difficult concepts, such as the concepts of "material", "energy", "information", etc., while the simple notion of a "shadow" avoids the tons of excess baggage that comes with the $50-Billion-Dollar words associated with "ontological" and "epistemological" bombastic aspects of a "point of light" from a Laser-pointer. (Larry Kagan turns the simplicity of a shadow into art: http://larrykagansculpture.com/ )

http://larrykagansculpture.com/media/58 ... ows-video/ (he tends to go off to deep thought land needlessly too)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGXkmUe8CUU
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A short book, "The Shadow Club" by Casati, opens the door to catching all the experts not keeping their shadows scientific, and letting "Casper the Friendly Ghost" gain free entry to confound Human Knowledge across the board. (That's how Ilm al-Kalam ended up painted into a corner by avoiding getting any paint on the shadow (bad Karma, you know), until Omar Khayyam sorta solved that riddle with "Keep the Greek Logos Out" with the Rubaiyat).
http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=9453 (about mid-way down the page is a more expansive response)

Tadzio

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Re: Rotating a laser beam faster than light?
People are confusing a moving laser dot with something tangible. The dot is made up of photons shooting outwards from the light source. The dot at starting point is not made up of the same photons as the dot at the end, and the idea that the dot at the start and the dot at the end are one in the same is a product of our imagination. My cats get confused over this very same thing."

Are you a cat Tadzio?