Why having universal healthcare in America would be bad

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03 Jul 2012, 8:32 pm

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Universal Healthcare is a good idea.


Yes but the cost will hurt us.



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03 Jul 2012, 8:35 pm

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A single payer healthcare system is the best option.


Only if well off folks can get their medical care privately.
I don't think that's ever been excluded as a possibility by any proposed plan including HR 676.


It is a good opition. But america treats healthcare like a business. Which is wrong.


I don't think that can be completely avoided here. I can't say I'm bothered by the fact that it's a business but rather that it's such a greedy and arrogant business. I can't think of any other business that charges those kinds of prices for their services AND acts like they're doing the customers a favor. :roll:
It was their own collective greed that created a vacuum for the government intervention and meddling that they were trying to avoid.



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03 Jul 2012, 8:41 pm

Raptor wrote:
Joker wrote:
SpiritBlooms wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Joker wrote:
A single payer healthcare system is the best option.


Only if well off folks can get their medical care privately.
I don't think that's ever been excluded as a possibility by any proposed plan including HR 676.


It is a good opition. But america treats healthcare like a business. Which is wrong.


I don't think that can be completely avoided here. I can't say I'm bothered by the fact that it's a business but rather that it's such a greedy and arrogant business. I can't think of any other business that charges those kinds of prices for their services AND acts like they're doing the customers a favor. :roll:
It was their own collective greed that created a vacuum for the government intervention and meddling that they were trying to avoid.


Very true Raptor I agree.



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03 Jul 2012, 9:15 pm

Joker wrote:
mikecartwright wrote:
Universal Healthcare is a good idea.


Yes but the cost will hurt us.


yet in many countries universal healthcare and education is excactly what allows them to prosper because everyone has the oppertunity to reach their potential.
when you limit who has access to either you also limit the total potential available to a society,s omething neccesary for a prolonged economic growth.


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03 Jul 2012, 9:17 pm

Oodain wrote:
Joker wrote:
mikecartwright wrote:
Universal Healthcare is a good idea.


Yes but the cost will hurt us.


yet in many countries universal healthcare and education is excactly what allows them to prosper because everyone has the oppertunity to reach their potential.
when you limit who has access to either you also limit the total potential available to a society,s omething neccesary for a prolonged economic growth.


You have been watching to many Micheal Moore documentaires. I am all for people having those things. But not at the expense of the tax payers.



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03 Jul 2012, 9:25 pm

agaion a baseless assumption without having actually been to the places you talk about.

no i live in a system that provides it and it shows, we are at the same unemployment rate today that we were in 2006, around 4%.


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03 Jul 2012, 9:30 pm

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agaion a baseless assumption without having actually been to the places you talk about.

no i live in a system that provides it and it shows, we are at the same unemployment rate today that we were in 2006, around 4%.


True but your state has a better employment rate them mine.



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03 Jul 2012, 9:33 pm

what state?


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03 Jul 2012, 9:35 pm

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what state?


Well not sure what state you live in but. In North Carolina the unemployment rate is very high. I am sure your state is better then mine when it comes to people having a job.



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03 Jul 2012, 9:39 pm

im from denmark, (kinda illustrating the point from another thread, QED if you will)


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03 Jul 2012, 9:40 pm

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im from denmark, (kinda illustrating the point from another thread, QED if you will)


I do apologize I thought you where from Amnerica.



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03 Jul 2012, 9:42 pm

no troubles, you arent psychic, and i removed my actual locations ages ago when i left for milliways :lol:

my point is when talking about ideology or politics it is never as simple as looking at a single country.


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03 Jul 2012, 9:43 pm

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no troubles, you arent psychic, and i removed my actual locations ages ago when i left for milliways :lol:

my point is when talking about ideology or politics it is never as simple as looking at a single country.


That's true I agree with you their.



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03 Jul 2012, 9:57 pm

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im from denmark, (kinda illustrating the point from another thread, QED if you will)


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03 Jul 2012, 10:01 pm

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Oodain wrote:
im from denmark, (kinda illustrating the point from another thread, QED if you will)


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03 Jul 2012, 10:16 pm

we had our imperial period as well :oops:


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