Spanking - abuse or effective

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A fair number of countries around the world have been civilized enough to ban the spanking of children.

http://www.ethicsoup.com/countries-wher ... anned.html

There are a lot more countries than that. Those are only a few listed. So it is still the norm.

"Norm" doesn't necessarily equate to "good" or "ideal."

The countries listed just happen to be among the most civilized in the world.

The rest of the world is on the metric system. I don't see the USA changing on this any time soon. Nor on giving up its proud tradition of spanking.

It's a boundary-setting measure that tells a child when they've gone too far.

The fact parents no longer smack their children explains why there are so many badly behaved bratty children around these days who get put on medication to calm them down when a lot of them just need a good smack!

If you don't set the boundaries the child will walk all over the parent and this is what happens - parents unable to control their own children and inflicting them on anyone unfortunate to be in their vicinity!

the smack is the ultimate sanction - to be used only when necessary but still an effective measure

In Ohio, the rule of thumb is that as long as it does not leave a mark, parents may strike their children however they want, and for whatever reason. But I've noticed that there are various methods that I'd regard as being abusive, that do not leave marks. You can whip someone of the bare buttocks, with a belt, and it will not leave a mark. I've even been choked once, and it did not bruise. So I just consider smacking/spanking to be a slippery slope to other violent behaviours. And what the Bible authorises is even more severe.

And this was actually a reform measure, believe it or not, earlier passages prescribed capital punishment. Now in all fairness, the Talmud does counterbalance these passages with this. http://www.stophitting.com/index.php?page=jewish And besides, if we were to permit Christians to beat their children in any way, should we likewise permit Muslims to spank their wives, based upon this passage? I would contend that citizens of all ages, and sexes, should rightly enjoy equal protection under law http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictiona ... Protection. So, as it is not legal under other circumstances to beat people as punishment, it should not be permitted to beat children in any way either.

That's true. If we don't use corporal punishment on our wives, then they might not fix our dinners properly.

http://womenshistory.about.com/od/myths ... _thumb.htm

It's a boundary-setting measure that tells a wife when she has gone too far.

The fact that husbands no longer smack their wives explains why there are so many badly behaved bratty women around these days who get put on medication to calm them down when a lot of them just need a good smack!

If you don't set the boundaries the wife will walk all over the husband and this is what happens - husbands unable to control their own wives and inflicting them on anyone unfortunate to be in their vicinity!

the smack is the ultimate sanction - to be used only when necessary but still an effective measure.

Oh I know, right? Wives can get away with sassing, and dissing on their husbands. If any of the children were to do likewise though, they'd be liable to be smacked upside the head. Btw, I know that you're just sarcasticly kidding.

I don't know. I thought it was a good thing, but my psychologist claims I was abused since it went beyond normal spankings (according to her). I don't know anymore.

Some men do use a spanking on their wives. It's a kink they have. Some wives spank their husbands too. But they do it a lot harder then you do with a child and it does leave marks on the grown up's butt. But yet it's all okay because they are adults and it's done with consent. Some do enjoy the pain and the burning and the stinging and crying for real. Some hate it but it's done for their own good so they like it. I have enjoyed reading spanking stories online about adults.

I once saw a woman getting spanked in a western movie. He chased her all over town and then he caught up with her and grabbed her over his lap and hit her with a kettle on her butt. I had no idea women were spanked in the days. Now today it's considered a kink when it's done. Also sexual harassment if you didn't have permission to hit her there because it's seen as sexual.


Anyone against birthday spankings or playful spankings?

Last edited by League_Girl on 23 Apr 2013, 11:33 am, edited 1 time in total.

/\ I think I've identified one of the two posters who voted "I didn't know this was about spanking kids, I though this was a kinky thread" on the poll...

Is physical punishment useful at all for some kids? Of all the times I can recall being physically punished by an adult it was not for something "naughty" but because I was in a tantrum/rage/meltdown (whatever you want to call it). All physical stuff did was leave me so enraged that I could barely think straight or reflect on what I had done wrong and I often did things to "get back" at people, like breaking things.

I'd like to read the TOS you got for this one.

You know what? Now that I think of it this should apply to adults as well. I bet adult human beings would be more courteous, respectful, and caring if people just asserted their boundaries more often with the occasional well placed smack.

Have you ever thought of, that if a child is mentally beating you, to get yourself some help? Sure you can smack the child to behave because of brutality, but still this leaves the child with a mentally weak person to grow up, that cant even match up with children. How shall this person teach a child how to live in this world? I mean beside: "And whenever you have no more argument simply smack your opposite?" Clearly, for an defenseless child this is ok, but how shall a child that have been teached that it needs no argument as long as he can smack his opposite, ever get a job? Because other people will not be defenseless.

Wow! Ad hominem and WAY too many false assumptions going on here.

How does it logically follow that a person who smacks a child is mentally weak? It would seem to me that an adult who engages a child in an argument and honestly expect to win based on superior argumentation skills is the mentally weaker. Childhood is all about emotion with rationality creeping in every now and then when it suits the child's purpose. The minute you start arguing against a child, you've already lost. My children are at that age when "no" isn't enough and simple reasons for it won't close the case. My kids know they've lost when I stop talking to them about whatever it is they think they can't do without at the moment.

That SHOULD put the matter to rest. But sometimes kids get ideas in their heads that they can beat the system, that there really aren't consequences for bad behavior. When verbal communication fails, tangible consequences are necessary to make the idea of misbehaving again seem unpleasant enough to avoid. If the usual methods fail, corporal punishment is a perfectly acceptable last resort.

If a child is mentally strong, especially if the child is mentally stronger than the parent, then he should be able to quickly figure out that compliance is a relatively short-term item to endure before he earns enough freedom to operate beyond parental boundaries. The way to beat the system is to get around it and rise above it and even yourself. A better indicator of mental strength is good behavior, the wisdom to avoid behavior that leads to painful punishment in the first place.