Misogyny/MRA is a sign of weakness
I was trying to express a balanced opinion on this issue but I don't have a lot of patience for dumb reactionary crap so I'm not really interested in arguing with you or Kurgan.
This thread is full of arguments that make no sense at all. This one just filled the cup.
If the issue raised if that men have a higher average salary because they're men or because they're more involved... what's the point with the house work? Now the company has to pay for the house work? What kind of BS is that? C'mon!
If nobody does the housework or child rearing the children might get taken away by protective services. If someone is fired from their job because being kept up by a screaming child all night made them too tired to function does this mean they are lazy? My point is that culturally prescribed gender roles lead to differing job performance and salaries, not innate genetic differences as implied by MRA types.
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Who do you think OWNS the divorce/family court systems? ...besides greedy lawyers, that is.
She gets a FREE lawyer for the last three years - I get billed $750 for legal aid just to look at my case and copy a few papers (no, they did nothing for me.)
It's no exaggeration. I had the court Dispute Resolution Officer, her lawyer and other officials laugh to man jokes at my expense right in the courtroom. That's about as brazen as it gets.
I've lost jobs from catty women spreading rumours or getting mad when I wouldn't sleep with them - even imprisoned from a BS accusation as a revenge act for not dating her in high school!
The whole court/legal/corporate system is geared from the bottom up to favour women in almost every circumstance. The only reason there aren't more female board members is because those mega-high positions are ALWAYS reserved for the cultural elite class which the average person can never attain on their own anyway. (Women in the elite class can choose between the huge power of the workplace, or the cushy life of shopping, society parties and bullying servants... often more appealing to them.)
No, the court/legal/corporate system is not geared to favor women. Almost all the highest paying jobs go to men. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not familiar enough with good jobs to and is probably just bitter about getting beat out for jobs at McDonalds by women. In my field, large law firms--the highest paying jobs--typically are above 80% male. The higher up the ranks you go, the more the disparity increases. Sure, there might be more women managers, at Wal Mart. But it is a fact that the higher in prestige you go, the more male the work force, to the point where Wall Street is 2/3-3/4 male. It would seem that the only guys who are bitter against feminists from an economic standpoint are those who do not have the personal qualities necessary to benefit from male privilege. Which is sad and pathetic at the same time.
Went and read some old posts: I am not going to bring up anything about anyone being the constant recipient of rape accusations. However, if one were a serial harasser and rapist, it makes sense that one might have a bit of trouble in the legal system.
That's why personal anecdotes are out of place in this context. It's impossible to know the full story, and I doubt someone who was an actual rapist and abuser would openly admit to being one. People have a way of remembering things selectively.
Who do you think OWNS the divorce/family court systems? ...besides greedy lawyers, that is.
She gets a FREE lawyer for the last three years - I get billed $750 for legal aid just to look at my case and copy a few papers (no, they did nothing for me.)
It's no exaggeration. I had the court Dispute Resolution Officer, her lawyer and other officials laugh to man jokes at my expense right in the courtroom. That's about as brazen as it gets.
I've lost jobs from catty women spreading rumours or getting mad when I wouldn't sleep with them - even imprisoned from a BS accusation as a revenge act for not dating her in high school!
The whole court/legal/corporate system is geared from the bottom up to favour women in almost every circumstance. The only reason there aren't more female board members is because those mega-high positions are ALWAYS reserved for the cultural elite class which the average person can never attain on their own anyway. (Women in the elite class can choose between the huge power of the workplace, or the cushy life of shopping, society parties and bullying servants... often more appealing to them.)
No, the court/legal/corporate system is not geared to favor women. Almost all the highest paying jobs go to men. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not familiar enough with good jobs to and is probably just bitter about getting beat out for jobs at McDonalds by women. In my field, large law firms--the highest paying jobs--typically are above 80% male. The higher up the ranks you go, the more the disparity increases. Sure, there might be more women managers, at Wal Mart. But it is a fact that the higher in prestige you go, the more male the work force, to the point where Wall Street is 2/3-3/4 male. It would seem that the only guys who are bitter against feminists from an economic standpoint are those who do not have the personal qualities necessary to benefit from male privilege. Which is sad and pathetic at the same time.
Went and read some old posts: I am not going to bring up anything about anyone being the constant recipient of rape accusations. However, if one were a serial harasser and rapist, it makes sense that one might have a bit of trouble in the legal system.
That's why personal anecdotes are out of place in this context. It's impossible to know the full story, and I doubt someone who was an actual rapist and abuser would openly admit to being one. People have a way of remembering things selectively.

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By FAR?
I don't think so, the media makes it sound so but both genders are almost equally harsh on each other when it comes to looks.
Three words: Male Hair Loss.
I'd say the ladies are harsher on themselves, judging each other by each other all day long - it's little wonder some of them are almost driven mad from body issues.
We men do this to each other too, but the "minimum" seems to be a lot easier to obtain... heavy testosterone, a cool car, a decent job and not being fat (generally just not being a "loser") seems to be enough for both each other and to attract mates.
Too bad we can't convince the gals that they're harsher judges of their bodies than men generally are! I had a few female friends I wanted to shake vigorously while screaming, "YES YOU ARE ATTRACTIVE, DAMMIT! NOW STOP BEING PARANOID ABOUT IT!! !"

...um.... on that thought, I'd better go get some exercise. *pokes tummy*poke*poke*jiggle*

Who do you think OWNS the divorce/family court systems? ...besides greedy lawyers, that is.
She gets a FREE lawyer for the last three years - I get billed $750 for legal aid just to look at my case and copy a few papers (no, they did nothing for me.)
It's no exaggeration. I had the court Dispute Resolution Officer, her lawyer and other officials laugh to man jokes at my expense right in the courtroom. That's about as brazen as it gets.
I've lost jobs from catty women spreading rumours or getting mad when I wouldn't sleep with them - even imprisoned from a BS accusation as a revenge act for not dating her in high school!
The whole court/legal/corporate system is geared from the bottom up to favour women in almost every circumstance. The only reason there aren't more female board members is because those mega-high positions are ALWAYS reserved for the cultural elite class which the average person can never attain on their own anyway. (Women in the elite class can choose between the huge power of the workplace, or the cushy life of shopping, society parties and bullying servants... often more appealing to them.)
No, the court/legal/corporate system is not geared to favor women. Almost all the highest paying jobs go to men. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not familiar enough with good jobs to and is probably just bitter about getting beat out for jobs at McDonalds by women. In my field, large law firms--the highest paying jobs--typically are above 80% male. The higher up the ranks you go, the more the disparity increases. Sure, there might be more women managers, at Wal Mart. But it is a fact that the higher in prestige you go, the more male the work force, to the point where Wall Street is 2/3-3/4 male. It would seem that the only guys who are bitter against feminists from an economic standpoint are those who do not have the personal qualities necessary to benefit from male privilege. Which is sad and pathetic at the same time.
Went and read some old posts: I am not going to bring up anything about anyone being the constant recipient of rape accusations. However, if one were a serial harasser and rapist, it makes sense that one might have a bit of trouble in the legal system.
That's why personal anecdotes are out of place in this context. It's impossible to know the full story, and I doubt someone who was an actual rapist and abuser would openly admit to being one. People have a way of remembering things selectively.

His bolded point in particular was spot on. Times change and societies evolve. The people who seek to undermine feminism (or gay rights, racial equality or any other civil rights issue for that matter) are merely unwilling or unable to adapt.
Take the serial sexual harrasser types......... They keep finding themselves in trouble because they stubbornly cling to these 1950s ideals about the roles of women. That is the root issue for these MRA reactivists. They see themselves as victims because they feel feminism has taken away thier rights to be "real men."
Getting laid is a primary and common human activity. It is not an accomplishment, like getting into Harvard, so MRA's and other opponents of gender equality--mostly comprised of ugly sexually frustrated dudes--are the weakest of the weak. Those men who resent feminism tend to do so because they themselves are losers in the system. But not all men are losers in the system. You don't see Wall Street bankers (70% male) complaining about feminism. Most of the top paying jobs and politically powerful positions still belong to men (80% of the Senate for example), and most powerful men have no problem either getting laid or getting all people, including women, to be subservient to them. It follows, hence, that those men who have an incentive to complain about feminism or gender equality are those left behind.
The complainers are the minority of men who are losers in the system, and therefore, this type of complaining is almost always a sign of being weak and a loser.
You trion intrigue me, you seem so calm in pointing out the obvious men who are against gender equality, yet almost forcibly group those who dislike both mra's and feminists equally as the same. I am not against gender equality, but the only good things feminists do, are the things the good men/women are supposed to do without calling it anything. You seem to think that women can't become equal? Women are equal when men view them as equals and treat them as equals, not when we treat them like princesses. Do you see co-ed UFC fights (I've seen female mma ladies, and practiced with one, but that was a treat most people don't get), no and there is an obvious reason why.
I am not trying to be blunt, but I have to, people are so concerned about joining feminism or mra without realizing they can do every good thing feminism has done without ever hearing of what feminism even is. You wanna know what they used to call it, being a good guy. Stop making applying labels and respect the opposite gender, no one has to join anything to do that! And my treat them like princesses comment is about how equality is what you think equality is, not what someone else does, i don't want any ladies to get hurt.
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What is this, "the epic of the whinning hasbin"! !?!?!? People, just respect the opposite gender, this femi-nazi labeling, chauvinist labeling, nice guy labeling, hogwash load of dooo dooo dunderhead is giving me a head ache! Do you really think it is that complicated? Ugh, stop joining the argument, you won't ever have to deal with the storm so to speak. Ladies, be nice to guys, and guys don't effin ruin it for everyone else, thank you very very very much, even though you will continue on with this discussion.
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I agree with what you're saying, Tyri0n, but it's pointless to talk about it here. There are so many self-pitying, ex-wife-blaming, mom-blaming, girl-who-doesn't-date-them blaming whiny people here. They have absolutely no introspection and it's like arguing with a small child. Hating/blaming women is all they'll ever know.
But they're the ones who have to live in their misery, so it's not like you should even care that they are so, so wrong.
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Who do you think OWNS the divorce/family court systems? ...besides greedy lawyers, that is.
She gets a FREE lawyer for the last three years - I get billed $750 for legal aid just to look at my case and copy a few papers (no, they did nothing for me.)
It's no exaggeration. I had the court Dispute Resolution Officer, her lawyer and other officials laugh to man jokes at my expense right in the courtroom. That's about as brazen as it gets.
I've lost jobs from catty women spreading rumours or getting mad when I wouldn't sleep with them - even imprisoned from a BS accusation as a revenge act for not dating her in high school!
The whole court/legal/corporate system is geared from the bottom up to favour women in almost every circumstance. The only reason there aren't more female board members is because those mega-high positions are ALWAYS reserved for the cultural elite class which the average person can never attain on their own anyway. (Women in the elite class can choose between the huge power of the workplace, or the cushy life of shopping, society parties and bullying servants... often more appealing to them.)
No, the court/legal/corporate system is not geared to favor women. Almost all the highest paying jobs go to men. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not familiar enough with good jobs to and is probably just bitter about getting beat out for jobs at McDonalds by women. In my field, large law firms--the highest paying jobs--typically are above 80% male. The higher up the ranks you go, the more the disparity increases. Sure, there might be more women managers, at Wal Mart. But it is a fact that the higher in prestige you go, the more male the work force, to the point where Wall Street is 2/3-3/4 male. It would seem that the only guys who are bitter against feminists from an economic standpoint are those who do not have the personal qualities necessary to benefit from male privilege. Which is sad and pathetic at the same time.
Went and read some old posts: I am not going to bring up anything about anyone being the constant recipient of rape accusations. However, if one were a serial harasser and rapist, it makes sense that one might have a bit of trouble in the legal system.
That's why personal anecdotes are out of place in this context. It's impossible to know the full story, and I doubt someone who was an actual rapist and abuser would openly admit to being one. People have a way of remembering things selectively.

I am tired of being shut down with people's unverifiable personal stories or experiences. It's interesting how religious extremists do the same thing; well, "God healed me from [...] when I [...] so therefore..." An actual rapist/harasser who deserves prison would probably not say anything all that different than what some people here have said. Few are in the wrong in their own minds, and some learn what constitutes "rape" or "harassment" the hard way due to ignorance.
So instead of arguing with personal stories, it's better to argue with facts that are available to all of us, like I am. I have cited multiple indisputable, quantitative facts and can easily back almost all of them up. They have been rebutted with sad personal stories that could very well be the edited versions of experiences by actual rapists/criminals/harassers. There is no way to know for sure. But if a rapist got on this board, he/she would probably say something quite similar.
Who do you think OWNS the divorce/family court systems? ...besides greedy lawyers, that is.
She gets a FREE lawyer for the last three years - I get billed $750 for legal aid just to look at my case and copy a few papers (no, they did nothing for me.)
It's no exaggeration. I had the court Dispute Resolution Officer, her lawyer and other officials laugh to man jokes at my expense right in the courtroom. That's about as brazen as it gets.
I've lost jobs from catty women spreading rumours or getting mad when I wouldn't sleep with them - even imprisoned from a BS accusation as a revenge act for not dating her in high school!
The whole court/legal/corporate system is geared from the bottom up to favour women in almost every circumstance. The only reason there aren't more female board members is because those mega-high positions are ALWAYS reserved for the cultural elite class which the average person can never attain on their own anyway. (Women in the elite class can choose between the huge power of the workplace, or the cushy life of shopping, society parties and bullying servants... often more appealing to them.)
No, the court/legal/corporate system is not geared to favor women. Almost all the highest paying jobs go to men. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not familiar enough with good jobs to and is probably just bitter about getting beat out for jobs at McDonalds by women. In my field, large law firms--the highest paying jobs--typically are above 80% male. The higher up the ranks you go, the more the disparity increases. Sure, there might be more women managers, at Wal Mart. But it is a fact that the higher in prestige you go, the more male the work force, to the point where Wall Street is 2/3-3/4 male. It would seem that the only guys who are bitter against feminists from an economic standpoint are those who do not have the personal qualities necessary to benefit from male privilege. Which is sad and pathetic at the same time.
Went and read some old posts: I am not going to bring up anything about anyone being the constant recipient of rape accusations. However, if one were a serial harasser and rapist, it makes sense that one might have a bit of trouble in the legal system.
That's why personal anecdotes are out of place in this context. It's impossible to know the full story, and I doubt someone who was an actual rapist and abuser would openly admit to being one. People have a way of remembering things selectively.

I am tired of being shut down with people's unverifiable personal stories or experiences. It's interesting how religious extremists do the same thing; well, "God healed me from [...] when I [...] so therefore..." An actual rapist/harasser who deserves prison would probably not say anything all that different than what some people here have said. Few are in the wrong in their own minds, and some learn what constitutes "rape" or "harassment" the hard way due to ignorance.
So instead of arguing with personal stories, it's better to argue with facts that are available to all of us, like I am. I have cited multiple indisputable, quantitative facts and can easily back almost all of them up. They have been rebutted with sad personal stories that could very well be the edited versions of experiences by actual rapists/criminals/harassers. There is no way to know for sure. But if a rapist got on this board, he/she would probably say something quite similar.
Facts can be proven wrong. Your facts are disprovable my the simplest of confirmed occurrences of a happy marriage, why fool yourself?
I like you better when you give dating advice, not argue with people who value the traditional way of life. If it makes them happy, you shouldn't be so quick to judge. Are you angry in particular this month trion? You were happier earlier in the year.
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The plural of anecdote... is not 'data'... unless you're on WP, then of course it is.
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Who do you think OWNS the divorce/family court systems? ...besides greedy lawyers, that is.
She gets a FREE lawyer for the last three years - I get billed $750 for legal aid just to look at my case and copy a few papers (no, they did nothing for me.)
It's no exaggeration. I had the court Dispute Resolution Officer, her lawyer and other officials laugh to man jokes at my expense right in the courtroom. That's about as brazen as it gets.
I've lost jobs from catty women spreading rumours or getting mad when I wouldn't sleep with them - even imprisoned from a BS accusation as a revenge act for not dating her in high school!
The whole court/legal/corporate system is geared from the bottom up to favour women in almost every circumstance. The only reason there aren't more female board members is because those mega-high positions are ALWAYS reserved for the cultural elite class which the average person can never attain on their own anyway. (Women in the elite class can choose between the huge power of the workplace, or the cushy life of shopping, society parties and bullying servants... often more appealing to them.)
No, the court/legal/corporate system is not geared to favor women. Almost all the highest paying jobs go to men. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not familiar enough with good jobs to and is probably just bitter about getting beat out for jobs at McDonalds by women. In my field, large law firms--the highest paying jobs--typically are above 80% male. The higher up the ranks you go, the more the disparity increases. Sure, there might be more women managers, at Wal Mart. But it is a fact that the higher in prestige you go, the more male the work force, to the point where Wall Street is 2/3-3/4 male. It would seem that the only guys who are bitter against feminists from an economic standpoint are those who do not have the personal qualities necessary to benefit from male privilege. Which is sad and pathetic at the same time.
Went and read some old posts: I am not going to bring up anything about anyone being the constant recipient of rape accusations. However, if one were a serial harasser and rapist, it makes sense that one might have a bit of trouble in the legal system.
That's why personal anecdotes are out of place in this context. It's impossible to know the full story, and I doubt someone who was an actual rapist and abuser would openly admit to being one. People have a way of remembering things selectively.

I am tired of being shut down with people's unverifiable personal stories or experiences. It's interesting how religious extremists do the same thing; well, "God healed me from [...] when I [...] so therefore..." An actual rapist/harasser who deserves prison would probably not say anything all that different than what some people here have said. Few are in the wrong in their own minds, and some learn what constitutes "rape" or "harassment" the hard way due to ignorance.
So instead of arguing with personal stories, it's better to argue with facts that are available to all of us, like I am. I have cited multiple indisputable, quantitative facts and can easily back almost all of them up. They have been rebutted with sad personal stories that could very well be the edited versions of experiences by actual rapists/criminals/harassers. There is no way to know for sure. But if a rapist got on this board, he/she would probably say something quite similar.
Facts can be proven wrong. Your facts are disprovable my the simplest of confirmed occurrences of a happy marriage, why fool yourself?
I like you better when you give dating advice, not argue with people who value the traditional way of life. If it makes them happy, you shouldn't be so quick to judge. Are you angry in particular this month trion? You were happier earlier in the year.
Yeah, definitely a rough time. But I am not talking about anyone's traditional values or the traditional way of life here.
Who do you think OWNS the divorce/family court systems? ...besides greedy lawyers, that is.
She gets a FREE lawyer for the last three years - I get billed $750 for legal aid just to look at my case and copy a few papers (no, they did nothing for me.)
It's no exaggeration. I had the court Dispute Resolution Officer, her lawyer and other officials laugh to man jokes at my expense right in the courtroom. That's about as brazen as it gets.
I've lost jobs from catty women spreading rumours or getting mad when I wouldn't sleep with them - even imprisoned from a BS accusation as a revenge act for not dating her in high school!
The whole court/legal/corporate system is geared from the bottom up to favour women in almost every circumstance. The only reason there aren't more female board members is because those mega-high positions are ALWAYS reserved for the cultural elite class which the average person can never attain on their own anyway. (Women in the elite class can choose between the huge power of the workplace, or the cushy life of shopping, society parties and bullying servants... often more appealing to them.)
No, the court/legal/corporate system is not geared to favor women. Almost all the highest paying jobs go to men. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not familiar enough with good jobs to and is probably just bitter about getting beat out for jobs at McDonalds by women. In my field, large law firms--the highest paying jobs--typically are above 80% male. The higher up the ranks you go, the more the disparity increases. Sure, there might be more women managers, at Wal Mart. But it is a fact that the higher in prestige you go, the more male the work force, to the point where Wall Street is 2/3-3/4 male. It would seem that the only guys who are bitter against feminists from an economic standpoint are those who do not have the personal qualities necessary to benefit from male privilege. Which is sad and pathetic at the same time.
Went and read some old posts: I am not going to bring up anything about anyone being the constant recipient of rape accusations. However, if one were a serial harasser and rapist, it makes sense that one might have a bit of trouble in the legal system.
That's why personal anecdotes are out of place in this context. It's impossible to know the full story, and I doubt someone who was an actual rapist and abuser would openly admit to being one. People have a way of remembering things selectively.

I am tired of being shut down with people's unverifiable personal stories or experiences. It's interesting how religious extremists do the same thing; well, "God healed me from [...] when I [...] so therefore..." An actual rapist/harasser who deserves prison would probably not say anything all that different than what some people here have said. Few are in the wrong in their own minds, and some learn what constitutes "rape" or "harassment" the hard way due to ignorance.
So instead of arguing with personal stories, it's better to argue with facts that are available to all of us, like I am. I have cited multiple indisputable, quantitative facts and can easily back almost all of them up. They have been rebutted with sad personal stories that could very well be the edited versions of experiences by actual rapists/criminals/harassers. There is no way to know for sure. But if a rapist got on this board, he/she would probably say something quite similar.
The thing is you really have no idea with regard to specific people on this message board. False accusations do happen. I think this thread is destined to go to straight to hell the direction you're taking it.
Who do you think OWNS the divorce/family court systems? ...besides greedy lawyers, that is.
She gets a FREE lawyer for the last three years - I get billed $750 for legal aid just to look at my case and copy a few papers (no, they did nothing for me.)
It's no exaggeration. I had the court Dispute Resolution Officer, her lawyer and other officials laugh to man jokes at my expense right in the courtroom. That's about as brazen as it gets.
I've lost jobs from catty women spreading rumours or getting mad when I wouldn't sleep with them - even imprisoned from a BS accusation as a revenge act for not dating her in high school!
The whole court/legal/corporate system is geared from the bottom up to favour women in almost every circumstance. The only reason there aren't more female board members is because those mega-high positions are ALWAYS reserved for the cultural elite class which the average person can never attain on their own anyway. (Women in the elite class can choose between the huge power of the workplace, or the cushy life of shopping, society parties and bullying servants... often more appealing to them.)
No, the court/legal/corporate system is not geared to favor women. Almost all the highest paying jobs go to men. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not familiar enough with good jobs to and is probably just bitter about getting beat out for jobs at McDonalds by women. In my field, large law firms--the highest paying jobs--typically are above 80% male. The higher up the ranks you go, the more the disparity increases. Sure, there might be more women managers, at Wal Mart. But it is a fact that the higher in prestige you go, the more male the work force, to the point where Wall Street is 2/3-3/4 male. It would seem that the only guys who are bitter against feminists from an economic standpoint are those who do not have the personal qualities necessary to benefit from male privilege. Which is sad and pathetic at the same time.
Went and read some old posts: I am not going to bring up anything about anyone being the constant recipient of rape accusations. However, if one were a serial harasser and rapist, it makes sense that one might have a bit of trouble in the legal system.
That's why personal anecdotes are out of place in this context. It's impossible to know the full story, and I doubt someone who was an actual rapist and abuser would openly admit to being one. People have a way of remembering things selectively.

I am tired of being shut down with people's unverifiable personal stories or experiences. It's interesting how religious extremists do the same thing; well, "God healed me from [...] when I [...] so therefore..." An actual rapist/harasser who deserves prison would probably not say anything all that different than what some people here have said. Few are in the wrong in their own minds, and some learn what constitutes "rape" or "harassment" the hard way due to ignorance.
So instead of arguing with personal stories, it's better to argue with facts that are available to all of us, like I am. I have cited multiple indisputable, quantitative facts and can easily back almost all of them up. They have been rebutted with sad personal stories that could very well be the edited versions of experiences by actual rapists/criminals/harassers. There is no way to know for sure. But if a rapist got on this board, he/she would probably say something quite similar.
The thing is you really have no idea with regard to specific people on this message board. False accusations do happen. I think this thread is destined to go to straight to hell the direction you're taking it.
At least ignore him, you don't have to say anything like that.
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Who do you think OWNS the divorce/family court systems? ...besides greedy lawyers, that is.
She gets a FREE lawyer for the last three years - I get billed $750 for legal aid just to look at my case and copy a few papers (no, they did nothing for me.)
It's no exaggeration. I had the court Dispute Resolution Officer, her lawyer and other officials laugh to man jokes at my expense right in the courtroom. That's about as brazen as it gets.
I've lost jobs from catty women spreading rumours or getting mad when I wouldn't sleep with them - even imprisoned from a BS accusation as a revenge act for not dating her in high school!
The whole court/legal/corporate system is geared from the bottom up to favour women in almost every circumstance. The only reason there aren't more female board members is because those mega-high positions are ALWAYS reserved for the cultural elite class which the average person can never attain on their own anyway. (Women in the elite class can choose between the huge power of the workplace, or the cushy life of shopping, society parties and bullying servants... often more appealing to them.)
No, the court/legal/corporate system is not geared to favor women. Almost all the highest paying jobs go to men. Anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not familiar enough with good jobs to and is probably just bitter about getting beat out for jobs at McDonalds by women. In my field, large law firms--the highest paying jobs--typically are above 80% male. The higher up the ranks you go, the more the disparity increases. Sure, there might be more women managers, at Wal Mart. But it is a fact that the higher in prestige you go, the more male the work force, to the point where Wall Street is 2/3-3/4 male. It would seem that the only guys who are bitter against feminists from an economic standpoint are those who do not have the personal qualities necessary to benefit from male privilege. Which is sad and pathetic at the same time.
Went and read some old posts: I am not going to bring up anything about anyone being the constant recipient of rape accusations. However, if one were a serial harasser and rapist, it makes sense that one might have a bit of trouble in the legal system.
That's why personal anecdotes are out of place in this context. It's impossible to know the full story, and I doubt someone who was an actual rapist and abuser would openly admit to being one. People have a way of remembering things selectively.

I am tired of being shut down with people's unverifiable personal stories or experiences. It's interesting how religious extremists do the same thing; well, "God healed me from [...] when I [...] so therefore..." An actual rapist/harasser who deserves prison would probably not say anything all that different than what some people here have said. Few are in the wrong in their own minds, and some learn what constitutes "rape" or "harassment" the hard way due to ignorance.
So instead of arguing with personal stories, it's better to argue with facts that are available to all of us, like I am. I have cited multiple indisputable, quantitative facts and can easily back almost all of them up. They have been rebutted with sad personal stories that could very well be the edited versions of experiences by actual rapists/criminals/harassers. There is no way to know for sure. But if a rapist got on this board, he/she would probably say something quite similar.
Facts can be proven wrong. Your facts are disprovable my the simplest of confirmed occurrences of a happy marriage, why fool yourself?
I like you better when you give dating advice, not argue with people who value the traditional way of life. If it makes them happy, you shouldn't be so quick to judge. Are you angry in particular this month trion? You were happier earlier in the year.
Yeah, definitely a rough time. But I am not talking about anyone's traditional values or the traditional way of life here.
Well I hope you get through it.
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