Gun control: more divisive than reason

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Give me some examples of these lies and this misinformation.

While you're doing that, read this:

http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/201 ... et-better/

Particularly the parts about sending mixed messages and knowing about the thing you want to regulate.

I'm not, but Vigilans seemed to be suggesting that all the gun control furor was somehow a marketing push for the firearms industry, and I was asking if he thought that the leading anti-gun pols were secretly trying to sell guns rather than ban them.

If it was me I would use CNC for receivers and complicated frames and not for magazines. Only because magazines tend to be relatively uncomplicated.

I think not so much the Sun Tzu his work was less specific about its applications but if you say niccolo Machiavelli doesn't use lies and deceit then you are a complete idiot or a liar more than likely a liar.

The most obvious and frequent lie is "the government is coming to take your guns". That one makes its way around the media echo chamber pretty regularly and 90% of the misinformation I'm speaking of is in regards to this premise. It obviously works considering how well they sucker you guys in every time. Another one is that a government registry of firearm owners is scary police state stuff, this latter point often put forward by NRA backers never-mind that the NRA has a big secret database of their own



This page touches somewhat on the misinformation from anti-gun advocates I was referring to but overall is not at all relevant to what I was saying. Yes, I know you think your knowledge of guns is the end of the discussion and anybody who disagrees with you is arrogant and doesn't in any way know what they're talking about .



Please don't attempt to apply a position to me that I in no way endorsed

You don't know s**t about Sun Tzu, Machiavelli or myself so please stfu with this asinine attempt at character assassination you idiot

That's where you are wrong seems like I got you a little angry if you want to be schooled on the art of war I can help you with that but from what I have seen from your other posts niccolo Machiavelli is more your style since you would rather other people protect you from physical harm.

Of course that raises the question on whether such a law would turn a right into a privilege. That is to say, if you do not register the guns that you currently own are you committing a crime?

I'm not angry you moron I just think you're basically a ret*d little s**t looking for a fight. It never once occurred to you that Machiavelli is worth listening to because people are liars and manipulators and one should know one's enemy and how to deal with them? Probably not, considering how dim you obviously are

They could work some kind of grandfather clause in on that and make it voluntary to register those weapons, with some sort of tax incentive though I doubt the really vociferous anti-gun people would go for that. *shrug*

really I know you wish I was ret*d I would be pulled in by you misinformation and BS but sorry iam just a bad writer is all. It occurs to me every single day just how important Machiavellis thoughts on people and how to deal with them are when iam online though I don't feel the need to be that fake.

You are so smart

Thanks for noticing you 2

If I hold my windpipe closed until I black out several times from oxygen deprivation, would that maybe help me to be more like you

No you would first need air duster then you would need to eat lost of tooth paste then oxygen deprivation hope that helps.

...but it's, in a large number of cases, true. Every proposed gun ban has included some sort of provision that ends up with the banned guns in the hands of the government. They're not explicitly rounding the national guard to go door-to-door confiscating guns, but the effect is the same.

If you ban people being able to legally buy or sell "assault weapons", even if you provide an exemption for all the guns of that type currently existing today - when that person dies, you can't legally do anything with the gun except give it back to the government to be destroyed. My grandfather's service revolver just recently went to my uncle when he passed - and I know that when my uncle passes, it will go to someone - possibly me or one of my cousins. And I know that when they pass, it will go to their children or someone else in our family. It symbolizes everything he stood for as an FBI agent, and I would be truly horrified if, one day, the government decides to pass a law that makes it illegal to buy or sell that revolver - insuring that eventually it will leave our family forever. The thought literally makes me sick, even though I realize that it's relatively unlikely that revolvers would be targeted.

However, imagine that instead of a service pistol it was an M16 from Vietnam. Or even just a family heirloom gun that someone decides looks scary.



They have a marketing database of people that they believe might want to buy an NRA membership - the same way that Cat Fancy has a marketing database of people they believe might want a subscription.

There's a big difference between that and a database of everyone who has ever purchased a gun - what types of guns they own - and, oh by the way, one FOIA request and it's yours.