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17 Feb 2014, 2:57 am

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Palestinian nationalism arose in the late 1960's, and Palestine as a country never existed.


But the arab people living there still claimed ownership of the land.

Even if thats true, does it somehow justify what Israel does? The Jews living in Poland and Germany in the 1940's didnt have a state either does that justify what the Germans did to them?


Even if there hadn't been a Palestinian people existing since ancient times, there certainly is one now.


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17 Feb 2014, 6:04 am

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Keep dreaming of a second Holocaust like many Arab figures do, lads.

Over the last few days, I learnt something about the makeup of many Palestinians - that they are not, in fact, indigenous to the area and that they have no real linguistic or spiritual connection to the land (unlike the Jews). For example, top Palestinian Authority negotiator Saeb Erekat's family are not people with a 9,000 year indigenous history in Palestine that are descended from the Canaanites as he claims, but are in fact descended from the Howeitat tribe from Arabia that ended up in Palestine. Erekat's own family proudly confirm that they are actually Arabs. See more here.

Many Palestinians are actually quite recent immigrants to the area and come from all over the Middle East.


That is one person.

The orignal jews, non european jews. They are arabs with just a different religion. Even the european jews are part arabs, well maybe.

http://www.evilyoshida.com/Thread-Jews- ... c-ancestry

Their bible even says it.

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Science proving the bible correct once again.

Abraham is the father of both Isaac and Ishmael through two different mothers. Sarah birthed Isaac and Hagar birthed Ishmael.

Isaac's bloodline became the Israelites and Ishmael's became the arab race.

So the book of genesis told us thousands of years ago that the Jews and the Arabs are half brothers.


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17 Feb 2014, 9:31 am

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17 Feb 2014, 10:48 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What about this?


http://www.enca.com/africa/bomb-rips-th ... -bus-egypt


That's....Egypt.



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17 Feb 2014, 11:15 am

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If the Arabs had their way they'd literally drive ALL of the Israelis right into the Mediterranean Sea.


And if the Israelis had their way?....given their track record of killing civilians/destroying their homes when ever hamas fires a rocket, not so sure they wouldn't want to do the same.


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17 Feb 2014, 11:17 am

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What about this?


http://www.enca.com/africa/bomb-rips-th ... -bus-egypt


That's....Egypt.

Yeah...can you explain it?



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17 Feb 2014, 11:18 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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If Israel sure looks like Nazi Germany where are the death camps?


The whole Gaza strip works pretty well whenever one is needed.

First, do you know what a death camp is?


do you know what a comparison is?

They don't compare.


Both result in the death of civilians....sure they are far from the same thing, but I believe the point of 'the gaza strip works pretty well.' was that Israel has been known to kill multiple civilians in that area so in that sense it compares because its both killing of civilians. I suppose the gaza strip compares better to the ghettos that existed before the death camps though.


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17 Feb 2014, 11:24 am

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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If Israel sure looks like Nazi Germany where are the death camps?


The whole Gaza strip works pretty well whenever one is needed.

First, do you know what a death camp is?


do you know what a comparison is?

They don't compare.


Both result in the death of civilians....sure they are far from the same thing, but I believe the point of 'the gaza strip works pretty well.' was that Israel has been known to kill multiple civilians in that area so in that sense it compares because its both killing of civilians. I suppose the gaza strip compares better to the ghettos that existed before the death camps though.


http://www.enca.com/africa/bomb-rips-th ... -bus-egypt

Imagine this happening in your town everyday or every other. One after the other death tolls climbing public pressures to do something about it. That's what they face over there. It's crazy.
Don't you realize how many Native Americans were displaced in this country? Do you see their ancestors behaving this way here? What you suggest if they did?



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17 Feb 2014, 11:25 am

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if anything the united states should be charged for war crimes in ww2 they firebombed entire city's killing millions


The also atom bombed heavily populated cities....twice no less, because once wasn't even a little bit overkill.


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17 Feb 2014, 11:30 am

The sad reality is...the past is the past and you have to live in the present and try to build a future. Those Arabs need to go back to their countries and let Israel be. It won't be disappearing because of them and if they keep up the cycle of violence, it won't help them. If they cooperated, they would be a lot better off.
Like in the US, you don't see Native Americans blowing up random buses to get their way and if they did you can bet the government would go Waco on them. It's just a fact of life. If you cooperate and avoid violence, things get better. If you keep blowing up random buses, things get worse. That's just how life is. The ones with the best weapons always have the advantage. Fighting a guerilla war is a pointless waste of life.



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17 Feb 2014, 11:33 am

I know this doesn't sound right but the atomic bombs may have saved millions of lives in Japan. Two alternatives were being considered by US on Japan if they did not use the atomic bomb: blockade, which would have resulted in mass famine, and invasion, which would have caused millions of casualties. The atomic bomb resulted in a couple hundred thousand (mostly civilian) casualties. I think many more Japanese civilians would have died if the US had gone for one of the other options. So, as a matter of fact, the a-bombs did save millions of lives. It is really sad that humanity gets to that point but we have to admit that in terms of numbers, it would likely have been much worse had the atom bombs not been used.

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The also atom bombed heavily populated cities....twice no less, because once wasn't even a little bit overkill.



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17 Feb 2014, 11:34 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The sad reality is...the past is the past and you have to live in the present and try to build a future. Those Arabs need to go back to their countries and let Israel be. It won't be disappearing because of them and if they keep up the cycle of violence, it won't help them. If they cooperated, they would be a lot better off.
Like in the US, you don't see Native Americans blowing up random buses to get their way and if they did you can bet the government would go Waco on them. It's just a fact of life. If you cooperate and avoid violence, things get better. If you keep blowing up random buses, things get worse. That's just how life is. The ones with the best weapons always have the advantage. Fighting a guerilla war is a pointless waste of life.


What are you talking about 'go back to their countries?' The Palestinians don't have citizenship claim to any other country. They are trapped in limbo because the ultra right Israeli government continues to obfuscate any chance of a 2 state solution and the USA keeps encouraging their behaviour.


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17 Feb 2014, 11:37 am

Native Americans are not second class citizens in the US like Palestinians in their own country.

What countries? They are in their own country! Who do you think inhabited Israel before the Zionists started coming in hordes?

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The sad reality is...the past is the past and you have to live in the present and try to build a future. Those Arabs need to go back to their countries and let Israel be. It won't be disappearing because of them and if they keep up the cycle of violence, it won't help them. If they cooperated, they would be a lot better off.
Like in the US, you don't see Native Americans blowing up random buses to get their way and if they did you can bet the government would go Waco on them. It's just a fact of life. If you cooperate and avoid violence, things get better. If you keep blowing up random buses, things get worse. That's just how life is. The ones with the best weapons always have the advantage. Fighting a guerilla war is a pointless waste of life.



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17 Feb 2014, 11:39 am

thomas81 wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The sad reality is...the past is the past and you have to live in the present and try to build a future. Those Arabs need to go back to their countries and let Israel be. It won't be disappearing because of them and if they keep up the cycle of violence, it won't help them. If they cooperated, they would be a lot better off.
Like in the US, you don't see Native Americans blowing up random buses to get their way and if they did you can bet the government would go Waco on them. It's just a fact of life. If you cooperate and avoid violence, things get better. If you keep blowing up random buses, things get worse. That's just how life is. The ones with the best weapons always have the advantage. Fighting a guerilla war is a pointless waste of life.


What are you talking about 'go back to their countries?' The Palestinians don't have citizenship claim to any other country. They are trapped in limbo because the ultra right Israeli government continues to obfuscate any chance of a 2 state solution and the USA keeps encouraging their behaviour.

The ones that are only there because of the Arab wars. So many of them came from Egypt and are offspring of those so just go back already or learn to cooperate and quit blowing up stuff. You do realize if they would stop that it would help them?



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17 Feb 2014, 11:40 am

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Native Americans are not second class citizens in the US like Palestinians in their own country.

What countries? They are in their own country! Who do you think inhabited Israel before the Zionists started coming in hordes?

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
The sad reality is...the past is the past and you have to live in the present and try to build a future. Those Arabs need to go back to their countries and let Israel be. It won't be disappearing because of them and if they keep up the cycle of violence, it won't help them. If they cooperated, they would be a lot better off.
Like in the US, you don't see Native Americans blowing up random buses to get their way and if they did you can bet the government would go Waco on them. It's just a fact of life. If you cooperate and avoid violence, things get better. If you keep blowing up random buses, things get worse. That's just how life is. The ones with the best weapons always have the advantage. Fighting a guerilla war is a pointless waste of life.

Oh believe me if they acted like these Palestinians the US government would come down hard but they have the sense NOT TO DO IT.
Learn to deal with reality it's not going to change. How long have they been suicide bombing AND WHAT HAS IT GOTTEN THEM ?
Wake up hello it's not working try a different approach why don't you?



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17 Feb 2014, 11:41 am

Why would Egyptians want to immigrate to a starving war-zone? Besides, the Arabs lost most of the wars! Provide a source for this claim!

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The ones that are only there because of the Arab wars. So many of them came from Egypt and are offspring of those so just go back already or learn to cooperate and quit blowing up stuff. You do realize if they would stop that it would help them?