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TheBicyclingGuitarist
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01 Apr 2014, 9:23 am

sonofghandi wrote:
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Isn't the only reason you identify as conservative is because you're upset about feminism? And you're upset about feminism because it lets women decide that they don't want to be romantically involved with someone and have no obligation to make you happy. I'm sorry that you've been dealt a bad hand in life, but you're going about this the wrong way.


I have a girlfriend. Im in shape,and follow a good lifestyle,
of course,Im going be conservative.

Why would that make you conservative?Liberals and others also do that.


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billiscool, that is a very subjective definition of "conservative" that does not match the dictionary definitions nor common usage. According to your definition, many liberals are conservative and many (maybe even most) people who call themselves conservative are not.

I could say, with I believe much more accuracy and evidential support, that since I am not a religious nut job trying to dumb down everybody's children and legislate their private lives, nor am I a greedy selfish businessman who exploits people and rapes the planet to make a quick buck regardless of the consequences to present and future generations, that because I am neither of those OF COURSE I am a liberal. My definition of "conservative" matches the real world much closer than yours does.

I am not saying you are a religious nut job. Neither am I saying you are a greedy selfish businessman. All I'm pointing out is how silly and subjective your personal definition of conservative lifestyle is.

A better definition of conservative would be:
"Ignorance, greed and fear are major factors in my decision making process, more so than for liberals, so of course I am a conservative."


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01 Apr 2014, 9:26 am

Gotta love it when a conservative can extol the virtues of conservative life and have all these liberals get their panties in knots.
:cheers:


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01 Apr 2014, 9:31 am

Raptor wrote:
Gotta love it when a conservative can extol the virtues of conservative life and have all these liberals get their panties in knots.
:cheers:


but he is not extolling the virtues of conservative life. As many people have pointed out, the virtues he extols cross political boundaries and are by no means bound to conservative dogma.


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01 Apr 2014, 10:03 am

TheGoggles wrote:
Isn't the only reason you identify as conservative is because you're upset about feminism? And you're upset about feminism because it lets women decide that they don't want to be romantically involved with someone and have no obligation to make you happy. I'm sorry that you've been dealt a bad hand in life, but you're going about this the wrong way.


How is feminism responsible for that? HA! It takes two to tango.
Besides, if feminism is the only thing responsible for that, that would just be calling women stupid. Women are smarter than to need feminism to put up with evil men.

Here is an example:
Mariya Oktyabrskaya - Tank Driver, and Hero of the Soviet Union

Another, exaggerated version:
Badass - Mariya Oktyabrskaya


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01 Apr 2014, 10:13 am

I believe that the trolls here are operating under the assumption that the best way to troll aspies is to be irrelevant, illogical, and ignore facts.



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01 Apr 2014, 10:36 am

Stannis wrote:
I believe that the trolls here are operating under the assumption that the best way to troll aspies is to be irrelevant, illogical, and ignore facts.


Thanks for reducing my caring statement to troll status...
What, did her story offend you?

All I hear is feminists are the only reason women have any right at all from you guys, and you call me a troll?

Empowering women? A man could give other men a sense of greater pride, and a little more power, and claim to be the reason why men have any rights as well. It isn't why not at all.

But seeing as I believe we need a female president, I could hardly contain my laughter. I am serious about this and my previous post.


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01 Apr 2014, 10:37 am

I am an aspie myself btw.


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01 Apr 2014, 11:31 am

appletheclown wrote:
TheGoggles wrote:
Isn't the only reason you identify as conservative is because you're upset about feminism? And you're upset about feminism because it lets women decide that they don't want to be romantically involved with someone and have no obligation to make you happy. I'm sorry that you've been dealt a bad hand in life, but you're going about this the wrong way.


How is feminism responsible for that? HA! It takes two to tango.
Besides, if feminism is the only thing responsible for that, that would just be calling women stupid. Women are smarter than to need feminism to put up with evil men.

Here is an example:
Mariya Oktyabrskaya - Tank Driver, and Hero of the Soviet Union

Another, exaggerated version:
Badass - Mariya Oktyabrskaya


What?



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01 Apr 2014, 1:32 pm

Raptor wrote:
Gotta love it when a conservative can extol the virtues of conservative life and have all these liberals get their panties in knots.
:cheers:

But what if they are going commando?Whats gonna knot up then?


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01 Apr 2014, 2:36 pm

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What?


You were saying feminism allows women to think for themselves.
Who have you been dating? A robot?

This is the fifteen-millionth time I have heard that statement.
"Feminism allows women to think for themselves."

DDDUUURRR, I didn't know everyone in the 1800's had robots for wives!

It is 2014! It has already become cultural standard, therefore, cannot be called feminism.

If you say women's rights movement, then we are talking about something I understand. Feminism turns sour, but fighting for the rights of women never does.


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01 Apr 2014, 4:23 pm

Cross-purposes again...

The dictionary definition of feminism is "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes."
Synonyms: the women's movement, women's liberation, female emancipation, women's rights.

It would seem you, appletheclown, are using a different definition of the word "feminism", maybe referring to academic feminists or something along those lines.



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01 Apr 2014, 4:33 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
Cross-purposes again...

The dictionary definition of feminism is "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes."
Synonyms: the women's movement, women's liberation, female emancipation, women's rights.

It would seem you, appletheclown, are using a different definition of the word "feminism", maybe referring to academic feminists or something along those lines.


I'm referring to a specific part of his comment that stated feminism, (in my mind as defined by sociology, not politics), that feminism is the one, the only, omnipotent reason why women have the right to be who they are today, which is as bs as women not having rights at all.

Nor am I referring to the OP, or anything else he said.
Sociology, makes more sense than politics ever will.
I hate labels, parties, and propaganda. This is why any political label at all makes me gag in utter disgust.


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01 Apr 2014, 5:10 pm

sonofghandi wrote:
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Ok, Raptor, so what IS the basis for your opinions?


I believe I stated how my political beliefs came to be when you asked either earlier in this thread or another recent one.
Go find it.


Having some trouble tracking that down. I have found a few places where you make some generalizations about things, but not anything concrete. If you have the time (and the inclination), could you provide a link to your posts covering this?


I guess you're SOL then....


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