Is it racism to be against immigration?

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So, riddle me this.

Why do Mexican immigrants get so much vitriol directed their way - even from alleged presidential candidates - when they are only about 1/4 of our immigrant population?

While your post is on topic, it has nothing to do with what I said. Anyways, to be polite and answer you...

That is another can of worms and you will have to compare the circumstances of central and south American immigrants versus those from other continents, and then look into generations of American history and then consider the current economic climate. There's a lot to say about the issue and there are many who have genuine concerns about immigration in USA involving the border and beyond as there are racists who simply use those concerns as convenient excuses for their hatred.

Current economic climate? Big businesses LOVE cheap labor.

They love even more cheap labor that won't unionize, and won't speak up, and won't even go to the cops if they are physically abused.

or are you equivocating that being against *all immigration isn't racist -- i mean, if being against immigration means that you hate the chinese, irish, australians, etc just as much?

The government might like it but the public at large will harbor resentment as they see immigrants that are not bringing anything to the country except their hopes and dreams versus others that are already have work lived up, legitimate paperwork, a husband or wife already there and already contributing. Your case is solid but it isn't what people will see on first impressions.

And no, I'm not sure where you got that last bit from out of my posts. Being against all immigration for immigrations sake is considered xenophobia by some. Though again there is no black and white. Countries might want to temporarily halt immigration only to allow it again a following year or term.

I tend to see countries as a business and citizenship like stocks.

Immigration is like exchanging stock in one business with another share in another biz. If you can't do it at all, then you're not free.

Totally free immigrations is like being able to exchange really wordless stock with a more expensive stock. That means each stock holders in any business would not want to improve the value of their stock. So the feeling in some rich countries that the poor countries should govern themselves better is partially justified too.

I proposed a balance system.

Something along people can emigrate but they have to pay. We already have that system. Anyone can be Australian citizen if they invest $100k.

But this lead to another problem. Being rich, the kind of people that Australian needs are the poor. Not the rich.

I think some direct democracy will figure that out. Let politicians decide.

In as much as government and corporations are two sides of the same coin, yeah government likes it.

Immigrants bring a lot of cheap labor to this country and that helps keep a lot of prices low.

I find that, at least with regard to hispanic immigrants in the USA, the real reason that the documented immigrants hate the undocumented immigrants is because the undocumented immigrants are the poor, uneducated, uncultured rabble.

The equivalent, for me, of east-kentucky hill people. Stupid, uncultured, embarrassing, house looks like hell, etc. They give white people a bad name. Ever see Deliverance? Those guys.

And if you think about it, that's the same reason a lot of white people don't like undocumented hispanic immigrants.

And the same reason people hated irish immigrants.

But i still think that until aspieutah can explain in a non-racist way what makes a neighborhood "honest", we are free to draw our own conclusions about what he means by that.

Several spin-off researchers from the John Birch Society have determined that, in the United States, a citizen's Social Security Administration account number is the citizen's stock number. It then gets securitized, monetized and sold repeatedly throughout the citizen's life as an "upaid" asset.

Is this what you are describing?

The members of the John Birch Society need to be institutionalized.

But, weren't they generally correct in their predictions? I don't care about personalities as much as results.

What, that communism would overtake America under the guise of civil rights?

Funny thing, utah is one of the regions where people will openly avow membership in the john birch society.

I know two members myself.

They have a much more colorful perception of reality than i do.

And then some.

I suspect in Sweden where these immigrants end up with likely become a ghetto city, and whites will flee over time.

In Michigan, USA white people have historically fled cities with a substantial black population. This is how well-kept white cities get transformed into high crime "black ghettos".

So, it's natural to fear non-whites moving into the area, unless they have wealth.

Most people are racist in this way.

Uhh, gotta call BS here.

The problems of the rust belt have everything to do with a mass exodus of manufacturing jobs over the last 30 years.

In fact, the problems of southern california have everything to do with a mass exodus of manufacturing jobs over the last 50 years.

Please find me an example of migration of poor people into a functioning city causing a decline into a ghetto without a concurrent, sharp increase in unemployment due to the departure of a center of employment.

If you can.

Why? What does the local job market have to do with "white flight" ? Do you really think white people fled because of the job market ?

In Detroit, for example, whites violently "protected" the city against blacks, however, in 1950s with the integration of blacks into "white schools", whites "voted with their feet" by fleeing.

Cities did not transform from 99% white to 90% black, because the 99% white people lost their jobs.

"White flight"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

Quoted: " White flight contributed to the draining of cities' tax bases when middle-class people left. Abandoned properties attracted criminals and street gangs, contributing to crime"

Wealth left, and poverty moved in, so expectantly, ghettos formed. This goes on today. I just moved my white aunt out of Redford, MI as the black population is increasing , and it's becoming a ghetto where someone like you would likely never live. Nothing to do with the local economy. People have cars now.