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10 Nov 2015, 1:15 am

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I believe Islam and shariah have the answers to every social ill and problem in society, IF IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY!! ! Because i believe it is from God himself. The reason why you all are against Islam is because you are all not used to it, and are used to having a western mindset...


I don't believe it because I have not been brainwashed to find excuses for the gross injustices being committed by its adherents in the name of Islam.



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10 Nov 2015, 9:14 am

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I believe Islam and shariah have the answers to every social ill and problem in society, IF IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY!! ! Because i believe it is from God himself. The reason why you all are against Islam is because you are all not used to it, and are used to having a western mindset...


This compares to me how western society used to operate 200 to 300 years ago. So I view it as just that, a massive step backwards.



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10 Nov 2015, 10:06 am

In theory, they are identical on being rather sh***y to human beings, as judged by modern values. The fact is Islam was copied largely from Judaism.



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10 Nov 2015, 10:16 am

None of the Abrahamic religions respects human rights as we know them today.


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10 Nov 2015, 11:02 am

I think the religions believe in human rights.

Some of their practitioners don't, though.



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10 Nov 2015, 11:14 am

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I think the religions believe in human rights.

Some of their practitioners don't, though.


One of the best on human rights would probably be the Quakers.



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10 Nov 2015, 11:28 am

You'd be surprised how much of the American system is based on Quaker beliefs.



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10 Nov 2015, 12:33 pm

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You'd be surprised how much of the American system is based on Quaker beliefs.


If there was a Quaker church/meeting in my area, I'd think about going to it at least on occasion.



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10 Nov 2015, 1:32 pm

eric76 wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I think the religions believe in human rights.

Some of their practitioners don't, though.


One of the best on human rights would probably be the Quakers.


I have some interesting info on Quakers.

Quaker origin confectionery companies:

Cadbury
Rowntrees
Fry

They believed that drinking chocolate would get people off booze during the Temperance movement. :lol:

Quaker origin Banks:

Barclays (7th largest bank ATM)
Lloyds (the bank not to be confused of LLoyds of London Insurance market).



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10 Nov 2015, 4:37 pm

eric76 wrote:
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I believe Islam and shariah have the answers to every social ill and problem in society, IF IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY!! ! Because i believe it is from God himself. The reason why you all are against Islam is because you are all not used to it, and are used to having a western mindset...


I don't believe it because I have not been brainwashed to find excuses for the gross injustices being committed by its adherents in the name of Islam.

The people committing gross injustices in the name of Islam are misguided... for instance... stoning a woman to death for being raped? not part of shariah... cutting off the hand of a thief? part of shariah.... committing terrorist attacks? not part of shariah... stoning adulterers to death? part of shariah



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10 Nov 2015, 4:40 pm

and the hand of a thief is only cut off if the thief stole something of great value, and was not stealing out of desperation... as for adultery... i dont see why you would defend a crime like adultery



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10 Nov 2015, 4:58 pm

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and the hand of a thief is only cut off if the thief stole something of great value, and was not stealing out of desperation... as for adultery... i dont see why you would defend a crime like adultery


So material value is important theologically?



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10 Nov 2015, 5:09 pm

yes... and in places like iran... hand amputation is rarely used anyway.



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10 Nov 2015, 5:38 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
I think the religions believe in human rights.

Some of their practitioners don't, though.

You must not be aware that the Bible calls for the death of witches and homosexuals, and do not let the disabled to enter a church. And considers rape an offense punishable by a mere fine and marriage to the victim.



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10 Nov 2015, 5:40 pm

MonsterCrack wrote:
and the hand of a thief is only cut off if the thief stole something of great value, and was not stealing out of desperation... as for adultery... i dont see why you would defend a crime like adultery

Adultery is not a crime.



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10 Nov 2015, 5:45 pm

AspE wrote:
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kraftiekortie wrote:
I think the religions believe in human rights.

Some of their practitioners don't, though.

You must not be aware that the Bible calls for the death of witches and homosexuals, and do not let the disabled to enter a church. And considers rape an offense punishable by a mere fine and marriage to the victim.

who said I was quoting the Bible? I'm referring to Islam... and in Islam, the disabled ARE allowed to enter a mosque, and rape is punishable by death, with no punishment or marriage to the rapist for the victim..... and no, 4 eyewitnesses are not required...