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31 Dec 2015, 4:32 am

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I take it that all you climate change enthusiasts are also very pro GMO, what with the scientific consensus and all?


Only if GMOs are demonstrably necessary as a hedge against starvation. Clean crops are clean crops regardless of their genetic precursors as long as nobody ruins them with disgusting additives. Why would anybody be enthusiastic about suffocating from anaphylaxis? You really think I'm enthused to see people drown & species go extinct? We are the same species you know.


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31 Dec 2015, 4:35 am

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Only if GMOs are demonstrably necessary as a hedge against starvation. Clean crops are clean crops regardless of their genetic precursors as long as nobody ruins them with disgusting additives. Why would anybody be enthusiastic about suffocating from anaphylaxis? You really think I'm enthused to see people drown & species go extinct? We are the same species you know.


Scientific consensus is that GMOs are safe and desirable; what superstition do you have against them, or are you just a paid shill, like all the climate change skeptics?


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31 Dec 2015, 4:38 am

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And anyone here who says they're just going to ignore me, then why are you in my thread? .


See, your mistake was trolling right to left; you can troll left to right all day in PPR and no one will care, they'll just chuckle and move along, but the other way around is suddenly a big deal that everyone has to make a stink about. It's been that way forever, or at least since 2008 when I came alone.


You actually made me laugh. First laugh I've had on here in a while. Thanks.


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31 Dec 2015, 4:38 am

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And anyone here who says they're just going to ignore me, then why are you in my thread? .


So replying counts as ignoring you?


What? I think you forgot the "not" before the word "ignoring",


You're mincing double negatives trying to argue with a coder and I as I already stated; you're a health worker so I'm not going to write you off. My implication was that generalizing people errodes your credibility and that's the only political statement I've made here; I'm interested in substance, not logos & for that matter I detested the Obama campaign's introduction of that trend. I'm not voting for any of these schmucks and you're welcome to read my reasons why.


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31 Dec 2015, 4:39 am

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Only if GMOs are demonstrably necessary as a hedge against starvation. Clean crops are clean crops regardless of their genetic precursors as long as nobody ruins them with disgusting additives. Why would anybody be enthusiastic about suffocating from anaphylaxis? You really think I'm enthused to see people drown & species go extinct? We are the same species you know.


Scientific consensus is that GMOs are safe and desirable; what superstition do you have against them, or are you just a paid shill, like all the climate change skeptics?


Who pays them? I just don't like GMOs because they frequently taste of cardboard. Case in point, tomatoes basically went from being delicious fruit to watermelon without the sugar that people put on cheap burgers. Scientific consensus is also that too much red meat is a health risk so I don't eat cheap burgers. The curry I had for dinner was probably 50/50 GMO or not and it was delicious.


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31 Dec 2015, 4:47 am

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And anyone here who says they're just going to ignore me, then why are you in my thread? .


See, your mistake was trolling right to left; you can troll left to right all day in PPR and no one will care, they'll just chuckle and move along, but the other way around is suddenly a big deal that everyone has to make a stink about. It's been that way forever, or at least since 2008 when I came alone.


You actually made me laugh. First laugh I've had on here in a while. Thanks.


You can laugh at me as much as you want, I'm good for that. Believe anything you like if it's good for a laugh, people need those. Believe a nurse voting for a guy who mocked muscular dystrophy is believable! What comes around goes around.


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31 Dec 2015, 4:55 am

Dox47 wrote:
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And anyone here who says they're just going to ignore me, then why are you in my thread? .


See, your mistake was trolling right to left; you can troll left to right all day in PPR and no one will care, they'll just chuckle and move along, but the other way around is suddenly a big deal that everyone has to make a stink about. It's been that way forever, or at least since 2008 when I came alone.


Actually the reason no one cares is because the moderators routinely chase off all the trolls. You've been here too long for us to see you as one & taken it as carté blanché. If a new mod shows up you've given them every reason for an IP permaban. I seem to remember you had questions for us about your boyfriend which is why I know you're not one of us, we're just here to help. I'd like to help you because it's what I do. Obviously as a health professional you're aware the amount of hate you've condensed is terrible for you. I should be resting my case of strep throat right now but it's obvious who's in more pain.


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31 Dec 2015, 5:05 am

Actually, I trust the unvarnished truth of science, whether it's a matter of global warming, evolution, that autism is not caused by vaccines, or the safety of GMO's, until legitimate science can prove otherwise. But I can understand why people would be freaked out about genetically tweaking our crops, as that's the stuff we put in our bodies. Still, the chance of feeding starving children in the third world is much more likely with GMO's, and so I'll trust the scientists on this, too.


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31 Dec 2015, 5:18 am

The climate change is sliding, changing the subject when getting wrecked.

A Democratic Socialist is a Communist before being elected, once in office, then comes the iron fist of the Power of the State. Bernie wants the poor and liberal to elect him so he can tax the rich. The State knows best.

Both Democrats voted for attacking Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, where Trump just wrote a book saying what a dumb idea it was, and how it would turn out. It was just a matter of opinion, and several trillion in debt, 8,000 American lives, 25,000 Americans severely wounded, and millions in the Middle East killed, wounded, homes destroyed, with lives disrupted.

ISIS is the Bernie, Hillary, and Barack Show. It was about how some Northeast Liberals would fix the world for their friends, and some Saudi money. They established Democratic Socialism in Iraq.

They managed to start a three sided Civil War, with outside players from eighty countries. They are still pushing peace talks with a new country formed between Iraq and Syria, where Saudi arms and money can bring wisdom.

In all of this, somehow Iran and Russia are the bad guys, for protecting the people they want to kill.

When you invade a country that has not committed any act of war against you, you are the aggressor and the enemy. Turkey has invaded both Syria and Iraq. Article 5 of the NATO Charter, Mutual Defense, does not apply where the NATO country is the aggressor, or in domestic Civil War, which the Kurds are now waging.

Turkey shot down a Russian jet in Syria, it was hit in Syria, it crashed in Syria, and the pilot was murdered while parachuting down. Turks took his body, defiled it, then suddenly said it had been given full Orthodox services and military honors and returned it to Russia. Someone told them what would happen if they did not.

It is still a declaration of war. The oil deal shows Turkey is an ISIS ally.

The Democrat facts on the ground keep coming in. They too are allies of ISIS.

The Russian S-400 air defense covers the area.

There are not many Democrat Socialists left in Syria.

This is not a good time to start World War Three.



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31 Dec 2015, 10:05 am

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The earth is definitely warming.

What is the earth supposed to do?



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31 Dec 2015, 10:08 am

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97% of climate scientists agree that the earth is warming and we're causing it. the US is the only country with many skeptics. skeptics consist of fossil fuel billionaires and folks that have been duped by them.


Because we can trust "climate scientists" to be just as impartial as billionaires when we know where their bread is buttered?

Why assume one party must be right? Most likely both are talking out of their puckered orifices.

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31 Dec 2015, 10:10 am

But the earth is warming....according to objective evidence.

I don't know if it's from CO2 emissions and all that--it could just be normal climatic variation.

But global warming does seem to be pretty accelerated at this point--in comparison to previous years.



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31 Dec 2015, 10:18 am

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But the earth is warming....according to objective evidence.

I don't know if it's from CO2 emissions and all that--it could just be normal climatic variation.

But global warming does seem to be pretty accelerated at this point--in comparison to previous years.


"It could just be normal?"

It "does seem to be pretty accelerated?"

I'm getting mixed messages. "Seem" is one of those imprecise words. It implies subjectivity and uncertainty. Is it wise to make policy when there is so much ambiguity? Thank you for being honest.



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31 Dec 2015, 10:23 am

Based on what I've seen, I would say the warming is accelerated in comparison to previous years.



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31 Dec 2015, 12:02 pm

It's El Nino, this was expected. Are we arguing whether or not weather is climate again? Basically it is only when it supports the theory of AGW but just weather when it doesn't, makes a lot of sense



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31 Dec 2015, 12:06 pm

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97% of climate scientists agree that the earth is warming and we're causing it. the US is the only country with many skeptics. skeptics consist of fossil fuel billionaires and fo

lks that have been duped by them.

EVEN if that is true and lets just say for the sake of argument it is, having things like carbon taxes just hurt the middle class and the poor. As I stated before, until the government actually looks into industrial hemps, it's all just an excuse for increased taxation. That being stated, I don't blindly follow that 97% of scientists agree. What scientists? Also, scientists aren't above accepting money to report bs findings. With that being stated, we should have an alternative to oil, namely hemp; however do you really think the big oil lobbyists will not try and prevent that from happening? What do you think they would rather do, fight for industrialized hemp, or push the government to add more taxes so that they can still make all this money; while the government makes more money off of the middle class? It's all bs. The UN has it's own agenda. We should have alternatives though to get rid of pollution and the dependence on foreign oil.


Yes, absolutely, some scientists take money in order to come up with an outcome favorable to one or other interests. Such scientists are corporate shills who deny climate change for the sake of their masters in the oil and coal industries. I for one do accept the conclusion of 97% of scientists, as they are not beholden to corporate interests.

You're completely ignoring everything else I wrote. How is the UN going to fix anything?